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    The truth about Muhammad and Aisha

    Writing about Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, the Orientalist scholar W Montgomery Watt wrote: "Of all the world's great men, none has been so much maligned as Muhammad." His quote seems all the more poignant in light of the Islamophobic film Innocence of Muslims, which has sparked riots from Yemen to Libya and which, among other slanders, depicts Muhammad as a paedophile.

    This claim is a recurring one among critics of Islam, so its foundation deserves close scrutiny.

    Critics allege that Aisha was just six years old when she was betrothed to Muhammad, himself in his 50s, and only nine when the marriage was consummated. They base this on a saying attributed to Aisha herself (Sahih Bukhari volume 5, book 58, number 234), and the debate on this issue is further complicated by the fact that some Muslims believe this to be a historically accurate account. Although most Muslims would not consider marrying off their nine-year-old daughters, those who accept this saying argue that since the Qur'an states that marriage is void unless entered into by consenting adults, Aisha must have entered puberty early.

    They point out that, in seventh-century Arabia, adulthood was defined as the onset of puberty. (This much is true, and was also the case in Europe: five centuries after Muhammad's marriage to Aisha, 33-year-old King John of England married 12-year-old Isabella of Angoulême.) Interestingly, of the many criticisms of Muhammad made at the time by his opponents, none focused on Aisha's age at marriage.

    According to this perspective, Aisha may have been young, but she was not younger than was the norm at the time. Other Muslims doubt the very idea that Aisha was six at the time of marriage, referring to historians who have questioned the reliability of Aisha's age as given in the saying. In a society without a birth registry and where people did not celebrate birthdays, most people estimated their own age and that of others. Aisha would have been no different. What's more, Aisha had already been engaged to someone else before she married Muhammad, suggesting she had already been mature enough by the standards of her society to consider marriage for a while. It seems difficult to reconcile this with her being six.

    In addition, some modern Muslim scholars have more recently cast doubt on the veracity of the saying, or hadith, used to assert Aisha's young age. In Islam, the hadith literature (sayings of the prophet) is considered secondary to the Qur'an. While the Qur'an is considered to be the verbatim word of God, the hadiths were transmitted over time through a rigorous but not infallible methodology. Taking all known accounts and records of Aisha's age at marriage, estimates of her age range from nine to 19.

    Because of this, it is impossible to know with any certainty how old Aisha was. What we do know is what the Qur'an says about marriage: that it is valid only between consenting adults, and that a woman has the right to choose her own spouse. As the living embodiment of Islam, Muhammad's actions reflect the Qur'an's teachings on marriage, even if the actions of some Muslim regimes and individuals do not.

    Sadly, in many countries, the imperatives motivating the marriage of young girls are typically economic. In others, they are political. The fact that Iran and Saudi Arabia have both sought to use the saying concerning Aisha's age as a justification for lowering the legal age of marriage tells us a great deal about the patriarchal and oppressive nature of those regimes, and nothing about Muhammad, or the essential nature of Islam. The stridency of those who lend credence to these literalist interpretations by concurring with their warped view of Islam does not help those Muslims who seek to challenge these aberrations.

    The Islamophobic depiction of Muhammad's marriage to Aisha as motivated by misplaced desire fits within a broader Orientalist depiction of Muhammad as a philanderer. This idea dates back to the crusades. According to the academic Kecia Ali: "Accusations of lust and sensuality were a regular feature of medieval attacks on the prophet's character and, by extension, on the authenticity of Islam."

    Since the early Christians heralded Christ as a model of celibate virtue, Muhammad – who had married several times – was deemed to be driven by sinful lust. This portrayal ignored the fact that before his marriage to Aisha, Muhammad had been married to Khadija, a powerful businesswoman 15 years his senior, for 25 years. When she died, he was devastated and friends encouraged him to remarry. A female acquaintance suggested Aisha, a bright and vivacious character.

    Aisha's union would also have cemented Muhammad's longstanding friendship with her father, Abu Bakr. As was the tradition in Arabia (and still is in some parts of the world today), marriage typically served a social and political function – a way of uniting tribes, resolving feuds, caring for widows and orphans, and generally strengthening bonds in a highly unstable and changing political environment. Of the women Muhammad married, the majority were widows. To consider the marriages of the prophet outside of these calculations is profoundly ahistorical.

    What the records are clear on is that Muhammad and Aisha had a loving and egalitarian relationship, which set the standard for reciprocity, tenderness and respect enjoined by the Qur'an. Insights into their relationship, such as the fact they liked to drink out of the same cup or race one another, are indicative of a deep connection which belies any misrepresentation of their relationship.

    To paint Aisha as a victim is completely at odds with her persona. She was certainly no wallflower. During a controversial battle in Muslim history, she emerged riding a camel to lead the troops. She was known for her assertive temperament and mischievous sense of humour – with Muhammad sometimes bearing the brunt of the jokes. During his lifetime, he established her authority by telling Muslims to consult her in his absence; after his death, she went to be become one of the most prolific and distinguished scholars of her time.

    A stateswoman, scholar, mufti, and judge, Aisha combined spirituality, activism and knowledge and remains a role model for many Muslim women today. The gulf between her true legacy and her depiction in Islamophobic materials is not merely historically inaccurate, it is an insult to the memory of a pioneering woman.

    Those who manipulate her story to justify the abuse of young girls, and those who manipulate it in order to depict Islam as a religion that legitimises such abuse have more in common than they think. Both demonstrate a disregard for what we know about the times in which Muhammad lived, and for the affirmation of female autonomy which her story illustrates.

    • This article was amended on 17 September 2012. It originally stated that King John was 44 when he married Isabella of Angoulême. This has been corrected.


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    Again, I agree with the approach of this lady---She has presented few arguments i.e.,

    (1) cultural practices of that age cannot be judged by today's moral standards---and that historical and social context should be taken into consideration while giving a judgement (2) that is, there are different views regarding the age of Ayisha placing her age in the range 9 to 19 (3) that is, birth record was not maintained at that time and so Ayisha's age as stated by hadiths might not be very authentic (4) that is, Quranic teachings require only "consenting" "adults" to enter into marriage thus overriding hadiths (5) that is, the practice of childhood marriage stands abolished in most of the Muslim world today.

    I think it is pretty good explanation if it mitigates the problem.

    Personally, I think what has happened in history is not that relevant. What is important is, how is Islam interpreted and practiced by most of the Muslims today. Muslim societies are undergoing transformation and many practices of the past are no longer practiced. And the fact is, most of Muslim World today doesn't approve of polygamy and childhood marriages except in some backward societies where they may be relatively more prevalent.

    One can also argue that polygamy was not that prevalent even in past and today, it is becoming even rarer.

    Having said that, there should be a reformation movement in Islam to harmonize it with modern moral standards.
    Last edited by Toramana; 09-21-2012, 03:32 PM.

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    • #3
      The most important step ahead would be for Muslims to tolerate (1) repealing/banning the much abused blasphemy and apostasy laws and (2) criticism and re-interpretation of Islamic teachings, Islamic history, and historical personalities of Islam. I think Islam wouldn't be weakened with this; it would rather become stronger.

      Muslim women should also stand-up for equal rights with men.
      Last edited by Toramana; 09-21-2012, 03:47 PM.

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      • #4
        I suggest members to read the comments on this article as well ---pretty insightful comments that bring diverse perspectives and arguments to fore---

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Toramana View Post
          (1) repealing/banning the much abused blasphemy and apostasy laws and (2).
          When I and PF member Resistance were promoting this, you said we were excusing and defending extremists. When you say it, its fine all of a sudden.

          You hypocrit.

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          • #6
            So answer the question Toramana. What is your problem.

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            • #7
              marrying young girls was prevalent in many places in those days but i don't understand why people go on and on about these things that will never be proven, one way or the other.
              the messages of the prophets is the most important part of the qua'ran, buddhism and christianity, not everyones sex life, whether they were married or not, etc.

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              • #8
                Go to YouTube, look up any video of Western child star whether Disney, Pop, Actress i.e. Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez, Chloe Moretz click statistics, look at the popularity of age groups.

                All are highly popular among Western men between the ages of 33-55.

                Western men, not Arab but Western men, predominantly White, go on child sex tours to Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, India, and the Philippines.

                ***k Western subjective politically correct post-Industrial age MORALITY.

                Not convinced? Watch this documentary: WARNING EXTREMELY DISTURBING SUBJECT MATTER and CONTAINS ADULT MATERIAL/PHOTO AGE = INCEST + CHILD MOLESTATION

                Just Melvin, Just Evil - Classic Documentary about Abuse - YouTube

                There is so much in this documentary that I can write a book about, certain subliminal subjects and matters that the family reveals, where they are from, who they associate with. Watch what the brother says about his relationship with is own sisters (atheistic morality). This is the typical mentality in the West among Whites and an open secret/taboo. Why did the father get away and was never arrested? Things that are too big of subject just for this little platform.

                People like Toramana, LZ, Soldout and the rest of the illiterate book worms don't know jack squat when they discuss these subjects. They are lucky to have been raised in families with their "pre-historic", and theistic structures.
                Last edited by R3SISTANC3; 09-23-2012, 01:37 AM.

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                • #9
                  So if even the age of Aisha is not clear and could be wrong what else is wrong or not clear in the Qoran???
                  Why when its about Aisha you hear a lot of excuses like it was difrent time the morals were difrent or she was already in puberty, but when it comes to choping off head and arms and stoning peopel, its normal and still should be done today -_-.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Khostai View Post
                    So if even the age of Aisha is not clear and could be wrong what else is wrong or not clear in the Qoran???
                    Why when its about Aisha you hear a lot of excuses like it was difrent time the morals were difrent or she was already in puberty, but when it comes to choping off head and arms and stoning peopel, its normal and still should be done today -_-.
                    Your enlightened methods as punishments are subjective, which is the height of stupidity if you think about it. A question to you, why should subjective crimes be punished by subjective punishments?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by R3SISTANC3 View Post
                      Go to YouTube, look up any video of Western child star whether Disney, Pop, Actress i.e. Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez, Chloe Moretz click statistics, look at the popularity of age groups.

                      All are highly popular among Western men between the ages of 33-55.

                      Western men, not Arab but Western men, predominantly White, go on child sex tours to Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, India, and the Philippines.

                      ***k Western subjective politically correct post-Industrial age MORALITY.
                      There is so much in this documentary that I can write a book about, certain subliminal subjects and matters that the family reveals, where they are from, who they associate with. Watch what the brother says about his relationship with is own sisters (atheistic morality). This is the typical mentality in the West among Whites and an open secret/taboo.

                      People like Toramana, LZ, Soldout and the rest of the illiterate book worms don't know jack squat when they discuss these subjects. They are lucky to have been raised in families with their "pre-historic", and theistic structures.
                      resist, you are so amusing when you get hysterical with your racism.

                      now, why don't you write a book about bacha baze, child marriages and child prostitution and slavery in your own muslim lands?
                      child sex abuse was not invented by atheists nor since the industrial revolution. nor is it solely a 'white' crime.
                      as a woman from an atheist home and western country, whatever assaults are done to children are not considered the 'norm'. they are though, perevalent in western countries and increasing around the world.
                      i do not doubt, that when the women and children in lands where the information about child sex abuse is not yet available, due to fear of ostracism for the victims, there will be much more numerous world statistics.

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                      • #12
                        ^LOLL when I wrote that I had you in mind. I'm going to jab these here and there just to piss you off whitey. :D

                        -the rest of your diatribe is irrelevant since I never claimed such problems don't exist. Though the difference is that Muslims don't walk around with a moral plug up their butts in regards to such issues.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by R3SISTANC3 View Post
                          Your enlightened methods as punishments are subjective, which is the height of stupidity if you think about it. A question to you, why should subjective crimes be punished by subjective punishments?
                          That you aks such dum question is the proof of your stupidity and low intelect. Please go kill yourself, you have failed to be a normal human being.
                          Devil worshipper

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by R3SISTANC3 View Post
                            ^LOLL when I wrote that I had you in mind. I'm going to jab these here and there just to piss you off whitey. :D

                            -the rest of your diatribe is irrelevant since I never claimed such problems don't exist. Though the difference is that Muslims don't walk around with a moral plug up their butts in regards to such issues.
                            as if i didn't know, blacky do you think you can actually p*** me off? i was amused that you know all the girls being adored by 33-55 year olds.
                            don't try and tall me there's no moral plug up your butt? most muslims aren't even facing their real issues, yet. too busy blaming the 'other'.
                            Last edited by faye; 09-23-2012, 12:44 PM.

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                            • #15
                              R3SISTANCE3 is a violent extremist and Akhwani as for as I can discern---somewhat megalomaniac as well ---Just look at his id R3SISTANCE3 ---an effort to get attention to himself through the esoteric name----

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