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  • #16
    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
    Sufis are the true warriors of Islam; in Pashtun culture we follow Islam which incorporates Sufism. This has been the way it has been for centuries; Thos who say otherwise are not from Pashtun culture.

    In fact Sufis were always the one to resist colonialization; Taliban work for Pakistan
    your sufi brothers in pakistan would maybe make that angry because in this video you can see sufis but from pakistan maybe from your sufi sect.sufis are true warriors of islam this is not true many sufi sects supporting the usa in afghanistan and supported them in their invasion of afghanistan ahmad shah massoud was himself from a sufi sect.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Khilji View Post
      your sufi brothers in pakistan would maybe make that angry because in this video you can see sufis but from pakistan maybe from your sufi sect.sufis are true warriors of islam this is not true many sufi sects supporting the usa in afghanistan and supported them in their invasion of afghanistan ahmad shah massoud was himself from a sufi sect.


      But Afghanistan has always had Sufism; it has nothing to do with Pakistan

      Even Ahmad Shah Abdali and Mir Wais Khan Hotaki were Sufis; they have Shrines built for them.


      Shrine of Mir Wais Khan Hotak in Qandahar



      Ahmad Shah Abdali was crowned by a Sufi Pir




      This is Ahmad Shah Abdali's shrine




      see your comments proves you're not actually a Pashtun from Afghanistan; just someone brainwashed by enemies
      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
        But Afghanistan has always had Sufism; it has nothing to do with Pakistan

        Even Ahmad Shah Abdali and Mir Wais Khan Hotaki were Sufis; they have Shrines built for them.


        Shrine of Mir Wais Khan Hotak in Qandahar



        Ahmad Shah Abdali was crowned by a Sufi Pir




        This is Ahmad Shah Abdali's shrine




        see your comments proves you're not actually a Pashtun from Afghanistan; just someone brainwashed by enemies
        so you wanna say sufis build also grave like this in the picture for exampl for Bibi Fatima or The Prophet Muhammad? you wanna kidding me right and mirwais hotak himself fightet the shiits safavids not just because of their foreign religion and just god knows if these afghan kings was realy some sufis.you are just angry posting **** nonsense many islamic kings was buried in something like a mosque.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Khilji View Post
          so you wanna say sufis build also grave like this in the picture for exampl for Bibi Fatima or The Prophet Muhammad? you wanna kidding me right and mirwais hotak himself fightet the shiits safavids not just because of their foreign religion and just god knows if these afghan kings was realy some sufis.you are just angry posting **** nonsense many islamic kings was buried in something like a mosque.


          Mir Wais Khan wasn't a King though, Building Ziarat is Sufi custom

          real pashtuns are sufis
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
            Mir Wais Khan wasn't a King though, Building Ziarat is Sufi custom

            real pashtuns are sufis
            you can repeat that as long you want you have no facts and iam complet against sufism and their pervert religion and sufism has nothing to do with pashtuns this video here is the best proof what you crazy sufis are.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
              Mir Wais Khan wasn't a King though, Building Ziarat is Sufi custom

              real pashtuns are sufis
              real pashtuns are not sufis

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Khilji View Post
                you can repeat that as long you want you have no facts and iam complet against sufism and their pervert religion and sufism has nothing to do with pashtuns this video here is the best proof what you crazy sufis are.


                I don't need to repeat it; I showed it with evidence


                here is more evidence.

                Sufi of Afghanistan - YouTube

                this was filmed in Qandahar
                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                  I don't need to repeat it; I showed it with evidence


                  here is more evidence.

                  Sufi of Afghanistan - YouTube

                  this was filmed in Qandahar
                  yes these are fooled poor people there are also shia minoritys in pashtuns
                  but my comment was about your mirwais hotak theorie about his sufi backround wich i completly dont believe, because sufis accepting shiism, they would never fight them, like mirwais hotak fightet shiism captured isfahan and tried to make the area that he captured to muslims.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Khilji View Post
                    yes these are fooled poor people there are also shia minoritys in pashtuns
                    but my comment was about your mirwais hotak theorie about his sufi backround wich i completly dont believe, because sufis accepting shiism, they would never fight them, like mirwais hotak fightet shiism captured isfahan and tried to make the area that he captured to muslims.
                    what do you mean? If you were Afghan you'd be able to recognize some of the men in the film because they're very well known and well respected in Afghanistan

                    you really know nothing ...go back to Pakistan GOE
                    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Khilji View Post
                      , because sufis accepting shiism, they would never fight them, like mirwais hotak

                      What ? that makes no sense ALMOST all the Major Sufi Turuq are Sunni; go look it up.

                      You have no idea what you're saying. Only Nimatullah is a Shi'i Sufi Tariqah.

                      Mir Wais Khan Hotak was a Sufi; Ziarats are against your Wahhabi culture from Saudi Arabia
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Khilji View Post
                        real pashtuns are not sufis


                        That's becauise you're from Punjab, so that's why you think that
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                          what do you mean? If you were Afghan you'd be able to recognize some of the men in the film because they're very well known and well respected in Afghanistan

                          you really know nothing ...go back to Pakistan GOE
                          but in pakistan i end like your crazy sufi brothers like here in the video.crazy sufi kafir go dance that in your nativ home hera mandi i know you sufis are not against this mujra banga and muttah prostetute cultur
                          crazy Satanic Sufi Ritual in Pakistan ( this is not islam ) - YouTube

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                            That's becauise you're from Punjab, so that's why you think that
                            and this is a part of your crazy sufi religion.
                            the most famoust sufi was mavlana rumi he had a sexuel relationship with a syrian male this is also ok in sufism.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Khilji View Post
                              but in pakistan i end like your crazy sufi brothers like here in the video.crazy sufi kafir go dance that in your nativ home hera mandi i know you sufis are not against this mujra banga and muttah prostetute cultur
                              crazy Satanic Sufi Ritual in Pakistan ( this is not islam ) - YouTube


                              Only a Pakistani would know about what is Mujra and Bhangra
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                                That's becauise you're from Punjab, so that's why you think that
                                and the sufis are responsibl for the bacha bazi dance it comes from this community that following this crazy religion

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