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  • #31
    Originally posted by کیش View Post
    If he was or wasn't an angel, that really isn't the big picture I am talking about. It's people who when god does rehearse his signs, it goes on deaf ears and people start to mock.

    Haha, the pagans called the Prophet insane and ridiculed him the same way you are doing me.


    if that's NOT the issue then why are you moaning? Get real. we're not supposed to blindly believe stuff without proof anyways. We're right for mocking those who attempt to deceive others with false claims.


    The Pagans also used to think that Uzza and Manat travel into the Ka'aba to mate and produce Jinn, they had their own superstitious beliefs which modern science show as absurd; Psychiatrists are medical doctors who study the science of insanity; you're mentally ill,, you can't try hiding behind the situations of Muhammad as your scapegoat. You're sick , seriously.
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • #32
      Yes, I'm sick, mentally ill, and have lost touch with reality.

      What proof do you people want? The lord to send angels in rows and ranks.

      Modern science is as absurd as what those pagans believed. At the time they sounded right and made a lot of sense to the unbelievers, just as much as science makes sense in the present.

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      • #33
        What's more important for you people: believing in "modern science?" or believing in the lord, and his angels, even if you cannot see them?

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        • #34
          If Modern science is absurd; why are you depending on it, electricity, computers, air conditioning, the bull**** rap music you listen to.

          Why is Allah(swt) giving modern science all the prestige by allowing it to work so well and Muslims can't even make a car run on Sawab?

          Sawabkit - CAR THAT RUNS ON SAWAB! - YouTube

          clearly God doesn't favor blind believers
          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by کیش View Post
            What's more important for you people: believing in "modern science?" or believing in the lord, and his angels, even if you cannot see them?
            What's important is results; Evidence talks , bull**** walks.

            to quote a very famous ancient book of wisdom

            Say, "Show me your proof, if you are truthful." [Quran 27:65]
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • #36
              The proof is all the might said in the Quran they are angels, and that is all the proof that is needed. You are to brainwashed by stupid science to see that, poor soul.

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              • #37
                That's not how it works; you have to DEMONSTRATE proof not say it's written somewhere, that's not proof that's circular arguments; lacking a critical attitude to clearly bogus claims of super natural events is PRECISELY the epitome of brainwashed.

                I'll be waiting for the car that runs on Sawab, until then I'll laugh as you depend on Modern science while shunning it
                Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 08-17-2012, 10:06 PM.
                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                • #38
                  It was an Israeli who did not want to be recognized. The end.

                  I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.

                  non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.

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                  • #39
                    The Prophet(PBUH) was questioned for proof of the lord, and his unseen creation. He didn't bother to write down silly formulas, the Prophet, being the genius he was, replied the Qu'ran is the true evidence.

                    Your relationship of god is through science. Science the subject that it is, is your mediator of the oft-forgiver. And there is no mediator, but the Prophet. Ibn Abdullah said he was receiving revelation through the arch-angel Gabriel. Angels, according the the true source, the Qu'ran, mentioned angels help out the ummah at times when they are needed. So why dumbfounded if God send one in these times?

                    You won't believe they are Jinns and Angels that roam around at times with the human world, unless you have had some experience with them. I have had personal conversations with people, who I didn't expect at the time, till after the conversation, were angels, assigned to meet with me for a talk. All put myself out there when I say I had a conversation with an Angel in the form of a South-East Asian. I was at the Jamaica station at the LIRR. I took three flights of stairs up and when I finally made it, there was this random Muslim. He was wearing salweer-kameez and a white kufi. The man was standing by the stairs and when I noticed him, i personally, started to walk away from him and did not want anything to do with him. When I was at the other side, he was there and got me, by saying "Hey brother, are you from Afghanistan." he is the only person who ever guessed my background, the first time.

                    I was taken the Ronkonkoma train from the subway, but when I asked the man "what stop are you going to." he said "Woodbury, I am a doctor going to my practice." I told him this train doesn't go to Woodbury, but he threw another random question "Say, is your parents still alive?". I said "Yea, they are, why?." The man didn't answer but proceeded to ask another question. This question was very much about my dean, what is the right way in going about it, and how to. I won't go into anymore details further. But let's just say we made it to Suffolk country, and he was suppose to go to his"practice," in Nassau, but was still heading the wrong way and wasn't worried about it.

                    So yes, I am saying Angels are out there. And also in human form. I give you my personal exprience as proof, and only the people of understanding can recognize the truths that I am writing.

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                    • #40
                      Mashallah what a brave soul.. Whatever it may be man or angel.. But it looks like the person that uploaded the vid.. Is assuming its an angel because of his confident walk dress and ability to feel pain for others and help them..
                      Im sure many ppl in his position would do the same.. As muslims we are obligated to help one another... He is an angel to the person because if he survives its all gis good deeds.. I just think its a brave human

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                      • #41
                        Kais, all your talk is a spin doctored narrative; you know this false dichotomy you pull of the "prophet vs science" is total baloney. islam emphasizes the use of our cognitive senses even in the Qur'an and so did Muhammad(saw). you're full of garbage and I'm sick and tired of you trying to act as if your way of viewing things is the sole narrative on Islam. it's not in fact it's not even the STANDARD narrative. you're insane and after your little personal testimonial of seeing imaginary people; I think you really should get checked. You're mentally damaged in the worst way.
                        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by کیش View Post
                          The proof is all the might said in the Quran they are angels, and that is all the proof that is needed. You are to brainwashed by stupid science to see that, poor soul.
                          Brother Allah has given his example and those who agree with him here :



                          Surah 25 Ayat 21

                          And those who do not expect the meeting with Us say, "Why were not angels sent down to us, or [why] do we [not] see our Lord?" They have certainly become arrogant within themselves and [become] insolent with great insolence.
                          High achievement always takes place in the framework of high expectation.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by کیش View Post
                            Yes, I'm sick, mentally ill, and have lost touch with reality.

                            What proof do you people want? The lord to send angels in rows and ranks.

                            Modern science is as absurd as what those pagans believed. At the time they sounded right and made a lot of sense to the unbelievers, just as much as science makes sense in the present.
                            Qais yar don't pay any attention to him, the truth is in this kufaar system just simply believing in god and refraining from sins out of fear of god means your mentally ill. This guy truly is a product of the kufaar system and I fear hes not just a "product", he could be more...Be careful.

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                            • #44
                              @ pradai
                              funny how stupid people can get , but go one and belive in the so called miracales , how sad that afghans are not today saved by birds .


                              i give you just one advise , pray for a little more aqal and brains , this will not hurt .

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                                Brother Allah has given his example and those who agree with him here :




                                Surah 25 Ayat 21

                                And those who do not expect the meeting with Us say, "Why were not angels sent down to us, or [why] do we [not] see our Lord?" They have certainly become arrogant within themselves and [become] insolent with great insolence.


                                Always remember that these verses relate to Muhammad (saw)...not liars ..how will a liar like you ever see an angel?

                                please stop trying to misuse Islam for your jahalah
                                [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                                2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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