Arab Wahabis lust for 72 "White" virgins

[Mujib]

Go and prove me wrong, wasnt the tribe of Banu Qurayza not beheaded and their bodies thrown into the trencheds

I invite you to learn Islam from those who truly know and understand it and who exemplify it's character. Don't rely on Christian missionary and other anti-Islamic sites.

As for the Banu Qurayza:

The Banu Qurayza committed high treason by breaking their oath of alliance with the Muslims and turning against them in time of war. When the battle against them was over, the Prophet, upon him peace, searched for an arbiter known and accepted to both sides who would rule concerning their penalty. The arbiter chosen was Sa`d ibn Mu`adh, who had been mortally wounded and died shortly afterwards. Sa`d said: "I will judge them according to the Law of Musa." He was of the tribe of Aws, who were the allies of the Jewish Banu Qurayza, the men who were executed. They assented to whatever verdict he would give as a leader from Aws. (Banu Qurayza Mosaic Penalty)

They were judged according to their own law by an arbiter they knew and accepted and whose decision they had assented to. It is said he judged them according to Deuteronomy 20:12-14:

12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:

13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:

14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee. (King James Bible)

[*Mahzala*]

I guess truth hurts.

Maseed, this statement of yours proves a lot more than you ever needed to say. Are you not on the same page as us (Muslims) or has this 'knowledge' got to your head? I've said this earlier, and thought I should bring it to your attention again. Your attempt and efforts to understanding the Deen are commendable, however, one must know how to filter information of such nature (especially on the internet) and read between the lines. And this is possible through a firm Aqeedah and requires sufficient knowledge on Quran and Sunnah. While most sources serve an informative purpose, the underlying goal is to clear misconceptions about Islam and not every source, be it an Islamically named one, achieves that. In saying that, this does not suggest that one shouldn't accept criticism or expose themselves to opposing sources, no. Rather the point is, that knowing which source mirrors the authentic sources is a vital process of gaining knowledge.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

maseed is not communist? why you guys always end it up with personal attacks

He certainly aint a Commie, but I'll let you guys decide what you would consider a person who says things like:

......Sexual slavery and sexual booty is permitted in Islam just like your imperialistic oppressive offensive jihad.....
...............wasnt she forced to become a Muslim as the Prophet whom you regard as a perfect role model used her as a maidan servent and offered her to release her from being a maid if she converted to Islam and married Prophet, Isnt that clearly blackmail?

Offensive Jihad is clear Imperialism...
you expect educated and progressive people just to accept some Desert Arabs to bring over laws best suited for the Desert.........

http://www.pashtunforums.com/63839-post10.html

............there already alot of contradictions between Islam and Science.
.......I have this inner urge to leave Islam. I am being serious

http://www.pashtunforums.com/63879-post17.html

Shariat=Arab stone age laws best suited to civilise Desert Arab bedions.

http://www.pashtunforums.com/newrepl...wreply&p=65195




This just tells me why he keeps on posting such inflammatory and anti Islam and anti Prophet PBUH stuff and yet claims to do so in the name of better understanding and getting knowledge.

[erlangner]

Basically the questions which Maseed raised are valid, as these are asked always whenever you confornt non-muslims and as some brother said, by orientalist. Such questions can never be answered with the logic as Maseed is communist or the questions are irrelevant. To understand this, it need the relevant background of all these three conditions. It was no way due to sexual lust of the prophet as Maseed himself mentioned that he was 56, then 58 and then 60 years old in all these three cases. He the prophet Muhamamd PBUH did not do have any such illegle or blackmailing sexual lust when he was teenager and he married a 40 years old widow Khadijah. If he was for the sex lust then why he did not accept the offers of all ahl-e-mekkah when they offered women and money.
All these marriages were more for political reason and He married and liked two wives more, one Aisha and one the wife of Zaid which he divorced (I forgot the name).
Now thigns as if women can be a war booty, No way, and again no way. Time changes many things and as slavery is no more valid according to Islam, although Islam allowed for that time, the same way, now sex slaves are way acceptable in present day. See Prophet brought many changes in that time society, and changes can never be abrupt. He brought slow changes and he did not implement Islam in his life time. Because many things needed time to be implemented and people are used to with.
If we will look at his last address at arafat then many things will become clear, how he ordered people for the rights of women, if they are sisters, mothers, or wives.
So in this context his decisions were right.
The thing, that he blackmailed, is irrelevant, how he blackmailed, if she wqas the slave then why he needed to blackmail.
It was the wish of these ladies too to have this honour to be the wives of the prophet.

[erlangner]

The hate against Arab as Maseed is doing is understandable. I also hate Arabs with the same intensity, because of their irrelevant jihad on our soil. They should do this jihad their on Arab Land. But this hate should not hit the Prophet as he was above the ethnic identity and it was specially mentioned in Quran that no Arab has any preference on non-Arab and vice versa. So hate should not go to the Prophet due to these pseudo Arab jihadis on our land, who destroyed and destroying.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

I am not Communist, I am a Nationalist meaning I take my peoples National Interests first before cuffing myself to any god or Arab.

As for those who call me a Commie before such as KKK cube, I suggest which commie your Islamic Pakistan is licking the boots off.

I dont like these typical Muslim threats towards people who question the holy highness and his prophets who are considered by bukhari as a sexual manchine of 11 men.

My point is, If Sexual Booty was permitted during the Prophet times, then with accordance to islamic laws sexual booty would be permitted. So Sexual booty, Meaning by Women.

Not only this, I find it absolutely amazing how women in Islam turn a blind eye on this such as follows:-

"Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: Once Allah's apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) of Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's apostle?" He replied, "You curse frequently are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you". The women asked, "O Allah's apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in your intelligence. Isn't it true that a women can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said: "This is the deficiency in your religion." Bukhari, volume 1, #301, and vol. 3, #826:

Whats wrong with Intelligent Women?

Bengal Tiger

Keep the ISI Jihadi Banter to yourself.

Allah is already destroying your Bengladesh with storms and floods.

Iam sick of this aggressive behavour amongst Muslims, which goes to show the violent and aggressive and unpeaceful faith that Islam truely is. Ive never met a Jew nor Christian who threaten another if they debate or question their faith, but a Muslim is permitted to find and kill those who slander Islam and the Prophets jsut like a Pakistani Political Party or a Italian Mafia Gang.

I have tried to love Islam but I can not anymore, I cant tolarant it, Ive tried sincerely, I can not accept Tyrants or Forms of Imperialism in the name of the al mighty.

Islam is Arab Nationalism, and if you think being told that the ONLY language in Paradise will only be Arabic, then I Afraid you are confused or lost in reality and logic.

33:50 - "Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives to whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty."

Vol. 5-#459 [This Hadith is similar to the above. However, additional details are added]. Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: "I entered the mosque and saw Abu Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about coitus interruptus. Abu said, "We went out with Allah's messenger for the Ghazwa (attack upon) Banu Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interruptus we said "How can we do coitus interruptus without asking Allah's messenger while he is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said "It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist.""
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Here, the Muslims attacked the Banu Mustaliq, and took slaves. The female slaves were distributed as booty to the Muslim soldiers. Being away from home, the soldiers became horny, and want to have sexual relations with the newly captured female slaves. They went to Muhammad and asked about coitus interruptus. He told them not to practice that, but to complete the sexual act with the slaves. Related Hadith show that they didn't want to get the women pregnant because they wanted to be able to sell them later on. Under Islamic law they were not allowed to sell pregnant female slaves.

[єѕαρχαι]

What about ghilman (the boys in heaven) ? anyone would like to shed some light on it ?

[erlangner]

YOu know maseed, that what happened to Hadith with the time and Haidth are collected after about 150 years of the prophet life and these were referred in different ways. However, prophet cannt be blamed for it. It happened later on.
Even at my village I asked our Mulla few times, as his address was always against women. YOu dont see this Bijli Ghar Mulla, abusing women while sitting at the mimbar at Masjid. Such Mullas have given this shape to Islam. Although I read Quran and I never came across any such confliction. Ya Islam is tried to be diverted into Arab Culture and nationalism, but what we have to do with it.

We should speak loud against it, as I say Bin laden should leave the pashtun land and start jihad from Arab lands. All arabs have shown their ass to Israell.

[erlangner]

What about ghilman (the boys in heaven) ? anyone would like to shed some light on it ?

Ghani Khan says.
Gora mulla jana, da rekhtia sta pa kitab ke wee
tol ghilman ba mra wee, pukhtana ba pa aazab ke wee,

Hao loonra de rawaneesi, ao khaza darla tera kree
tola kehlkhana bande de gyara bara tera kree

Oor wee ka saqar wee ka saqar wee, terawam ba ye lakka khan
Ta lass pa hamsa shara de khazay na ghilman

I think the middle verse is wrong, if any one can correct it.

Ghilman and hoor are not for sexual purposes, Mulla think, as Ghani Khan says again:
Ghareeb tsa okri joomat ke, na maashooq shta na sharab.

and also again he says.

Sta jannat neem paris neem tehran de.

All this means, why and from which source Mulla is saying , Hoor and ghilman are just sexual tools, and Jannat is the place like a heera mandi where only sex will be the business nothing more.
It is because Mulla always think it and wish.

Hoor and ghilman may the servants of people in Jannat, and people in jannat will not be so shameless like this hungry mullah, wagay stargay wagay kheta (as he always of food and hoor and ghilman in jannat) to use maidens for sex. Ya today Arabs are doing it with philippinian girls in UAE, Qatar and other arab countires, and they think, jannat is also a majra centre or a red light market of amsterdam.
Shame on Mullahs.

[Khushal Khan Khattak]

Ever since you said the things you said against Islam and Our Holy Prophet PBUH, you have lost all respect and admiration I had for you.

But your own words are enough to show who you really are and where you stand:

http://www.pashtunforums.com/66222-post20.html

.........threats towards people who question the holy highness and his prophets who are considered by bukhari as a sexual manchine of 11 men.

........which goes to show the violent and aggressive and unpeaceful faith that Islam truly is.......

........Ive never met a Jew nor Christian who threaten another......

....I have tried to love Islam but I can not anymore, I cant tolerate it,.....I can not accept Tyrants or Forms of Imperialism in the name of the al mighty.

......Islam is Arab Nationalism........

This is high time we understand and realize the game that has been played with us in the false guise of our brothers and under the name of the beautiful religion of The One True God.

As for Pride in the belief of Nationalism:

(2) Bending his neck in pride (far astray from the Path of Allah), and leading (others) too (far) astray from the Path of Allah. For him there is disgrace in this worldly life, and on the Day of Resurrection We shall make him taste the torment of burning (Fire).
( سورة الحج , Al-Hajj, Chapter #22, Verse #9)

(6) And when Our Verses (of the Qur'an) are recited to such a one, he turns away in pride, as if he heard them not - as if there were deafness in his ear.
( سورة لقمان , Luqman, Chapter #31, Verse #7)

As for posting such inflammatory material with an under current of emotions that are too obvious:

(1) Their likeness is as the likeness of one who kindled a fire; then, when it lighted all around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness. (So) they could not see.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #17)

(3) How can you disbelieve in Allah? seeing that you were dead and He gave you life. Then He will give you death, then again will bring you to life (on the Day of Resurrection) and then unto Him you will return (see V.40:11)
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #28)

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[erlangner]

Ever since you said the things you said against Islam and Our Holy Prophet PBUH, you have lost all respect and admiration I had for you.

But your own words are enough to show who you really are and where you stand:

http://www.pashtunforums.com/66222-post20.html



This is high time we understand and realize the game that has been played with us in the false guise of our brothers and under the name of the beautiful religion of The One True God.

As for Pride in the belief of Nationalism:

(2) Bending his neck in pride (far astray from the Path of Allah), and leading (others) too (far) astray from the Path of Allah. For him there is disgrace in this worldly life, and on the Day of Resurrection We shall make him taste the torment of burning (Fire).
( سورة الحج , Al-Hajj, Chapter #22, Verse #9)

(6) And when Our Verses (of the Qur'an) are recited to such a one, he turns away in pride, as if he heard them not - as if there were deafness in his ear.
( سورة لقمان , Luqman, Chapter #31, Verse #7)

As for posting such inflammatory material with an under current of emotions that are too obvious:

(1) Their likeness is as the likeness of one who kindled a fire; then, when it lighted all around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness. (So) they could not see.
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #17)

(3) How can you disbelieve in Allah? seeing that you were dead and He gave you life. Then He will give you death, then again will bring you to life (on the Day of Resurrection) and then unto Him you will return (see V.40:11)
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #28)

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Khushal Khan Khattak sahib, which verse is against nationalism in all of these you quoted here. Does pride means, nationalism. Pride is also that you have for your religious belief. Allah loves eejz and I see mucb arrogance in your behaviour. Was it the way of Prophet. Dont you remember that once whenn a baddo started peeing in Masjid, Nabwi, sahabah attacked him to get out of mjid, but this love prophet asked them, let him do it, and then we will clean it. It is eejz, and pride on religion is also forbidden my dear. this world pride implies all prides, otherwise Allah knew the term nationlism, He almighty could use it as well.

[abubaker]

Khushal Khan Khattak sahib, which verse is against nationalism in all of these you quoted here. Does pride means, nationalism. Pride is also that you have for your religious belief. Allah loves eejz and I see mucb arrogance in your behaviour. Was it the way of Prophet. Dont you remember that once whenn a baddo started peeing in Masjid, Nabwi, sahabah attacked him to get out of mjid, but this love prophet asked them, let him do it, and then we will clean it. It is eejz, and pride on religion is also forbidden my dear. this world pride implies all prides, otherwise Allah knew the term nationlism, He almighty could use it as well.

shaytan lso was proud and you know where that got him

besides there are ahadiths against ''Asabyya''

[erlangner]

why he correlates pride with nationalism. Pride is pride. ya shytan was proud for being a pashtun nationalist, therefore was thrown out of Paradaise?
you want to say this.

[abubaker]

why he correlates pride with nationalism. Pride is pride. ya shytan was proud for being a pashtun nationalist, therefore was thrown out of Paradaise?
you want to say this.

he was proud of being a jin and wouldnt bow down to something that was c r eated from clay. it was his pride and arrogance that made him what he is.

pride will eventually lead to nationalism there is no daught[spelling] about that, besides what are you proud of anyway being made of mud, you cant even prevent your own death yet we walk around as if we are the sustainer of this world.

[erlangner]

Ya Ghani baba says,
Da che nan pakkay za mast ao maghroor garzam,
saba khudai khabar da cha ba da gulzar shee

see pashtun nationalists are realizing the fact that this world is mortal. there is no doubt to be proud is not good, but what is your opinion about the arrogant religious mullas, who are more proud of their Taqwa (will it help)? They are wrose than the nationalists as they try to decieve Allah, the almighty.