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    The desperate situation of our Ummah was predicted by the prophet (pbuh). Nowadays the quantity of the muslims is great, but sadly the quality is low.





  • #2
    How can one who sees and feels this suffering be quiet and still? Yet where is the avenue for action? If we have abandoned jihad, if the kings and presidents and armies and nations who are equipped with the material means to fight a legitimate war do not do so, some of those who feel and care and are tormented by this suffering, who live the reality of my dream every day, will use any means, even the illegitimate ones. This is because the nature of the human being cannot tolerate injustice and oppression for long. Often the response to injustice is itself unjust.

    The Prophet and his companions suffered oppression, injustice, torture and deprivation in Mecca, and Allah ordered them with patience. They were prohibited from a violent response. Perhaps part of the reason for that is the response in these circumstances cannot by its nature be a measured one. They could have conceivably taken swords, arrows or daggers and randomly started attacking people in the markets or setting themselves alight and running into people's houses, but this never was the way of Islam. Suicide bombing is just that, suicide, and when it is combined with the murder of civilians it is just that, murder. There is simply no precedent and justification for it, but that does not mean that we can or should ever close our eyes to the why. There are reasons why people do such things, and unless we remove the causes we will never cure the disease. One of the differences between the Muslims in Mecca and our situation today is that in Mecca there was no means for a measured, legitimate response. Today there is. The Muslim nations have armies, weapons, and material recourses. We have the means to respond to those occupying Muslim lands, but then they are not really Muslim lands anymore, they are "sovereign nation states". Thus we are divided, and ruled.

    The call for the Muslims to be united under one Caliph, and to be governed by the Shariah is not the invention of Islamists. It is and always has been the position of orthodoxy. It is also common sense, and God's guidance is always the sensible way, even if we don't always seem to see it. When we abandon jihad, we are open to destruction, and legitimate, effective jihad, depends on some degree of unity and cohesion in the Muslim nation. Most of us want to live in peace and get on with lives and let others do the same, but the fact is that there are always those who's hatred, greed or perceived need drives them to deprive others of what they have. Every nation has armies, not necessarily out of desire for war, although for some that might well be the case, but rather because the consistent lessons of human history have taught us that even if we do not desire war there are others who do. If you are militarily too weak, you are always open to the potential of attack from those who are stronger. Jihad is thus the strength of the Muslim ummah, when it is abandoned the ummah is open and exposed.

    This is exactly what the Prophet stated when he prophesied that: "Soon the nations will gather together to take from you in the same way you invite others to share in a feast."

    "Is this because we are few in numbers?"

    "No, you will many like the foam on the sea, but you will be like the rubbish that is carried by the flood. And Allah will take the fear of you from the hearts of your enemies and into your hearts he cast wahn."

    "What is wahan oh Messenger of Allah?"

    "Love of life and fear of death."

    The noble religion of Islam has prevented the killing of women, children, the old, and from desecrating the churches and synagogues. In Islam you fight the fighters, soldier against soldier, armies against armies. But what happens when the soldiers do not fight? When they stand by and watch tyranny, or even worse they are themselves the vehicle of it? Then who will fight jihad? If those who can fight legitimately refuse, those who can only fight illegitimately will rise.

    Jihad is not terrorism, but terrorism is a result of abandoning jihad.

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    Narrated Thauban: "The Prophet peace be upon him said: 'The nations shall gather and team up against you (i.e., Muslims) as the predators gather and team up against their preys. A questioner asked: 'Is it because of us being low in numbers at that day?' The Prophet replied: 'No, you that day shall be in great numbers, but you will be as powerless as the foam of the water on the surface of the river, and Allah shall remove any fear from your enemies toward you, and He shall put in your hearts wahan.' A questioner asked: 'O Apostle of Allah, what is wahan?' The Prophet replied: 'The love of life's amusements and the fear of death.'" (Translation of Sunan Abu Dawud)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by handsomepashtun
      The days of the Caliphate are over Maiwand. When we have so many sects like Qadiyani, and etc how can we have a caliphate? or Shariah law?
      this is the time of the great islamic awakening. those deviants like qadyanis shouldn't be of our concern. We should focus on ourselves.

      Quantity is relevant. But quality is much more important. So improve the quality, and allah will give you victory.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by handsomepashtun
        The days of the Caliphate are over Maiwand. When we have so many sects like Qadiyani, and etc how can we have a caliphate? or Shariah law?
        There was never a time the entire Muslim world was combined except for perhaps 20 years or so out of 1500 years. Even during the time of the Caliph Usman, the Muslim world was divided - and he was only the third caliph.

        So this dream of a united Caliphate is something that never was and some people with vested interests are trying to twist history to make people believe that it did exist and it can exist. A global caliphate is something that's not just unnecessary but also something that's practically unworkable.
        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
          There was never a time the entire Muslim world was combined except for perhaps 20 years or so out of 1500 years. Even during the time of the Caliph Usman, the Muslim world was divided - and he was only the third caliph.

          So this dream of a united Caliphate is something that never was and some people with vested interests are trying to twist history to make people believe that it did exist and it can exist. A global caliphate is something that's not just unnecessary but also something that's practically unworkable.
          The Caliphate is the ultimate goal. But before that we should be united at least in our own countries and be able to defend ourselves. Our armies and governments are defending the interests of western countries, instead of our own. They are directly or indirectly colonizing our countries. At least we have to acquire such power as to have a deterrence against their aggression and attacks.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by nazia
            ^How can we unify?
            By doing what God and the prophet has commanded us to do, which is to hold fast to the rope of Allah (Quran and sunnah). And come to common terms with each other, we have to search for and appreciate the important things that we all have in common, instead of constantly talking about the small and insignificant differences.
            Last edited by Guest; 06-25-2010, 12:51 AM.

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            • #7
              What I find extremely amusing is the fact that this show or event mr green was preaching on must have been funded by some Saudi Petro dollars, I guess Saudi Petro dollars will fund the creation of a Global Khalifate ignoring the fact that its a failed ideology and will never happen, no matter how much of the fear factor you put into the hearts of people, It will never happen, Such personalities always blackmail innocent people by using Islam to acheive their status of their views.

              You, Maiwand always say what Allah and Prophet(pbuh) has commanded us to do ignoring the fact that what the Prophet(pbuh) commanded us to do is contradicted by most hadiths in relation to the Quran, There are 1000's of sects who will disapprove of what other muslims have to say and follow.

              I.E I truely doubt Iran will accept being ruled by Lunatical Saudi Wahabists, Same can be said About Jordan who will never accept being ruled by Salafists, So to inforce such a khalifate, you will need to go into conflict with other Muslims, for which Saudi Petro dollars will not sufficiantly fund nor be able to support.

              He says Nations will be against you, but there are people who support Offensive Jihad on Non Muslims, and use Islam to justifiy it, So its like vice versa, Non Muslims can say the same, Muslim nations will be against you etc, its never ending.

              Can we just stick with what we got and work for world peace instead. At times i feel like putting all the worlds relgionous bigots onto one Island and let them fight eachother of whos relgion is in charge of the island as others will progress and continue to work for peace and to work for the betterment of mankind.

              Kind Regards

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              • #8
                insha'Allah, things will get better soon for the muslim ummah..

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