Germaniun Muslim scholar when he was asked about terroism and ISLAM

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[RevolutionThroughReason]

Then it should have been asked; Who killed 3 million Bengalis in 1972?


Who killed blacks in Darfur.

Who Massacred 4 Million Armenians?

Who sold the 180 Million African slaves to the Europeans?

Who joined the Nazis in Albania and Bosnia?

Who slaughtered hundreds of thousands in India?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

More propaganda. Please find sources and post them.

West is center of evil and a living shaytan and center for haramis. What they have done in Afghanistan and Iraq in just 10 years is something that brings tears to eyes.

center for haramis?; Arabs don't say the word harami, they bano 7aram or bano zana .Harami is an Urdu/Hindified variation. Why are you using harami instead of the more applicable Arabic terms?

http://www.liberationwarmuseum.org/bangladesh

The Pakistani rampage resulted in the worst genocide since the Second World War, and an estimated 3 million people were killed, some 278,000 women were raped and 10 million had to take refuge in neighboring India.

http://www.hmh.org/ed_Genocide_Darfur.shtml

The Sudanese government exploited these differences by arming ethnic Arab militia groups, known as the “Janjaweed,” to attack the ethnic African groups. The government would attack from the air, and then, the Janjaweed forces would enact a scorched earth campaign, burning villages and poisoning wells. Nearly 400,000 people have been killed, women have been systematically raped and millions of people have been displaced as a result of these actions.

http://www.umd.umich.edu/dept/armenian/facts/genocide.html

The Armenian Genocide was carried out by the "Young Turk" government of the Ottoman Empire in 1915-1916 (with subsidiaries to 1922-23). One and a half million Armenians were killed, out of a total of two and a half million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.

And Arabs treated slaves good. In Iraq and Yemen their descendants are living very peacefully and part of society.

http://archive.arabnews.com/?page=9&section=0&article=120358&d=16&m=3&y=2009

Al-Haydar said black people suffer discrimination partly because of their color, and also because they do not belong to a tribe, which is still important to many Saudis.

“Blacks are seen by many people in the Kingdom as inferior,” said Al-Haydar, who holds an MA in English from the UK. “This is clearly observed through the names which many Saudis use to call or describe a black person,” he added.

Even though slavery has been abolished, the word “abd” (Arabic for slave) continues to be used to describe a black person. Al-Haydar said many Saudis like to define their identities in opposition to the other. “People gain their sense of self-worth from the fact that there are others who are lower than them on this (arbitrary) hierarchical tree,” he said.

]You also have 10.000 Armenians living in North Iraq and they have no problems at all. They want to stay.

http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/world/news/48820/Congressmen_request_US_assistance_to_help_resettle_Iraqi_Armenian_refugees

PanARMENIAN.Net - Representatives Betty McCollum, Frank Pallone, Adam Schiff, and Tim Walz spearheaded a letter to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, urging action to ensure the well-being of Iraqi Armenian Christian refugees in Jordan and Syria.
The letter, which 16 other Members of Congress have signed, urgently requests U.S. assistance to help resettle Iraqi Armenian Christian refugees to Armenia. Additional resources from the United States will allow Armenia to reach more Iraqi Armenian Christians with essential resources as well as the opportunity to begin a new life in a safe and secure environment.

Al-Jarab, you are a humongous liar

[RevolutionThroughReason]

No it's not; we don't say harami, we say faseq or fased, not harami, that's something Pakistani and Indian Muslims say.

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Also critcizing past crimes of Muslims will not change the West crimes so your agenda will not work.

Where have you been in the last 100 years when the center of shaytan have destroyed the Umma, colonized it, waged war against it, killed million of Muslims, corrupted it?

Also again the crimes of the umma compared to west is minimal to the crimes of the west. Big difference.

No it's not; this is just an excuse you make to hide your guilt. and what do you mean past? Darfur is recent, Saudi extremists killing Christians in Iraq is recent.

In Islam even a little injustice is great; We have a higher standard, so even if there is a slight injustice, it is greater than anything kufar do.

But we have many injustices; Millions of people

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Both words can be used. The word is Arabic not Pakistan or what you said.

And who are we? Yesterday you told that Yemenis are different to other Arabs and more close to Kurds, Balochis and Pashtuns than other Arabs and that you don't want to have anything to do with Arabs?

Make up your mind.

It comes from an Arabic word yes; but no one in Arabic speaking countries says HaramIIIIIII we don't add a Ya to the end to describe someone. We say Faseq, Fased, Ibn Zana, Ibn 7arram. But never ever harami

you're a liar, you're some Pakistani that worships Saudis.

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I am waiting for videos where descendents of blacks in the Arab world are being killed ...

You talk empty talk. Do you even know that one of the dear A'immah in al-Masjid al-Haram is black?

Do you even know how many blacks live in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Yemen peacefully?

Today situation is very good. And Arabs NEVER murdered blacks in the same manner as the West.

In your first post you just asked for SOURCES, I showed you sources, Now you're changing the standards. This is called Changing Goal Posts.

More propaganda. Please find sources and post them.

West is center of evil and a living shaytan and center for haramis. What they have done in Afghanistan and Iraq in just 10 years is something that brings tears to eyes.

And Arabs treated slaves good. In Iraq and Yemen their descendants are living very peacefully and part of society. You also have 10.000 Armenians living in North Iraq and they have no problems at all. They want to stay.

You want a video? here you go

The Genocide In Darfur - YouTube

[RevolutionThroughReason]

saying "harami" is not an Arabic dialect from the Arabian peninsula


harami is an Arabic word which the Pakistanis and Indians changed by adding a YA to the end. Arabs do not say Harami, they don't add a YA to harram.

You're a fake. You're a Pakistani who lives in an Arabic country as a servant and want to gain their acceptance Pathetic. I knew there was something weird about you; you kept changing your ethnicity and saying you're a Pure Arab, then you said you'e part Sherkasi. Originally you were saying you were Assyrian. You're a fake

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Culturally well Hadramout part of Yemen are closer to Kurds and Balouch, we're more influenced by Sufism and also we have more trade links with them.

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I was asking for sources in the ARAB world. Darfur is not Arab world is it?

You make a claim now proof it.

Use a Arabic, western source and book as I did yesterday when we discussed Saudi/Iraqi trabalism.

yes Sudan is apart of the Arab world

Sudan (i/suːˈdæn/ or /suːˈdɑːn/;[7] Arabic: السودان, as-Sūdān), officially the Republic of the Sudan[8] (Arabic: جمهورية السودان, Jumhūrīyat as-Sūdān), sometimes called North Sudan,[9][10][11] is an Arab state in North Africa (It is also considered to be part of the Middle East).[12

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No Higazi and Iraqis don't say harami; they say faseq, fased, ibn 7arram,

harami is not used in ANY Arabic dialect.


I do believe you speak Arabic; but you learned it by staying in the Middle East, you're not actually from there. You're Pakistani.

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Did you not recently say that Sudanese are not Arabs? Now they are?

Yes, because sufism do not exist in other Arab countries than Yemen?

Maybe you should sleep more because you are now talking nonsense.

And how can the Northern Sudanese be racist when they are black themselves? What logic is this?

And I asked for sources from the Middle East/Arab Peninsular.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2004/07/who_are_the_janjaweed.html

The Janjaweed started to become much more aggressive in 2003, after two non-Arab groups, the Sudan Liberation Army and the Justice and Equality Movement, took up arms against the Sudanese government, alleging mistreatment by the Arab regime in Khartoum. In response to the uprising, the Janjaweed militias began pillaging towns and villages inhabited by members of the African tribes from which the rebel armies draw their strength—the Zaghawa, Masalit, and Fur tribes. (This conflict is entirely separate from the 22-year-old civil war that has pitted the Muslim government against Christian and animist rebels in the country's southern region. The Janjaweed, who inhabit western Sudan, have nothing to do with that war.)

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You're just trying to change the subject because you were caught for speaking like a Pakistani. LOL

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But did you not say that Sudanese are not Arabs? So your source is invalid.

And how is those horrible crimes compared to the crimes of the West?

That's the point of this discussion.

You make false claims to try and paint Islam, Arabs and the umma with propaganda. Why is that?

You even started to mention Saudis killing Armenians in Northern Iraq when there are no Saudis there in the extreme North of Iraq.

Please find a source of that.

You can't. Simple, you invent lies to make Muslims and Arabs appear bad.

And you demonize Saudis and manipulate.

Oh how convenient; The Source is invalid because it contradicts You. We heard that excuse before, you can't fool us with that.


You have to prove the source is lying; and something does not become a lie just because it is Western.

That's a logical fallacy

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Your country is allies with the West; if it's the West fault, why are you working with them?