Objecting to God

[DaMalakandGhar]

Colin Howson, Emeritus Professor in the Department of Philosophy, Logic and Scientific Method, has a new book, Objecting to God, published last July by Cambridge University Press. The book evaluates the evidence old and new for the existence of a God of the sort the Abrahamic religions postulate, and concludes that there really isn't any: on the contrary, the evidence is very strongly against. Not only do these religions lack any credible foundation, but their influence, the book goes on to argue, is largely malign, embodying a code of ethics both primitive and repressive.

http://www2.lse.ac.uk/philosophy/home.aspx

The growth of science and a correspondingly scientific way of looking at evidence have for the last three centuries slowly been gaining ground over religious explanations of the cosmos and mankind's place in it. However, not only is secularism now under renewed attack from religious fundamentalism, but it has also been widely claimed that the scientific evidence itself points strongly to a universe deliberately fine-tuned for life to evolve in it. In addition, certain aspects of human life, like consciousness and the ability to recognise the existence of universal moral standards, seem completely resistant to evolutionary explanation. In this book Colin Howson analyses in detail the evidence which is claimed to support belief in God's existence and argues that the claim is not well-founded. Moreover, there is very compelling evidence that an all-powerful, all-knowing God not only does not exist but cannot exist, a conclusion both surprising and provocative.

http://www.cambridge.org/us/knowledge/isbn/item6432185/?site_locale=en_US

http://www.cambridge.org/servlet/file/store6/item6609582/version1/9780521186650_excerpt.pdf

[Manzareh]

Colin Howson, Emeritus Professor in the Department of Philosophy, Logic and Scientific Method, has a new book, Objecting to God, published last July by Cambridge University Press. The book evaluates the evidence old and new for the existence of a God of the sort the Abrahamic religions postulate, and concludes that there really isn't any: on the contrary, the evidence is very strongly against. Not only do these religions lack any credible foundation, but their influence, the book goes on to argue, is largely malign, embodying a code of ethics both primitive and repressive.

http://www2.lse.ac.uk/philosophy/home.aspx

The growth of science and a correspondingly scientific way of looking at evidence have for the last three centuries slowly been gaining ground over religious explanations of the cosmos and mankind's place in it. However, not only is secularism now under renewed attack from religious fundamentalism, but it has also been widely claimed that the scientific evidence itself points strongly to a universe deliberately fine-tuned for life to evolve in it. In addition, certain aspects of human life, like consciousness and the ability to recognise the existence of universal moral standards, seem completely resistant to evolutionary explanation. In this book Colin Howson analyses in detail the evidence which is claimed to support belief in God's existence and argues that the claim is not well-founded. Moreover, there is very compelling evidence that an all-powerful, all-knowing God not only does not exist but cannot exist, a conclusion both surprising and provocative.

http://www.cambridge.org/us/knowledge/isbn/item6432185/?site_locale=en_US

http://www.cambridge.org/servlet/fil...50_excerpt.pdf

BUT you believe in God, so, whats your response? (if your brave enough to answer)

[DaMalakandGhar]

go to hell!

when will the admins notice that these people are harming this forum with their anti islamic agenda.

or should we muslims leave fro these couple of twisted fools?

"Objecting to God" on a Pashtun forums,what a shame.

no dont some members come and tell me "oh lets discuss with him""oh lets convince him" "oh lets be tolerant to this filth"
is he tolerant ?NO
is he convince/understanding?NO
is he respectful to respectable members such as barakzaiabdali?NO

Shadogay Saib, Objecting to God is the name of the book. The purpose of the post is informational. If you have to confront the author or his argument do it with reason not like a Talib.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

go to hell!

when will the admins notice that these people are harming this forum with their anti islamic agenda.

or should we muslims leave fro these couple of twisted fools?

"Objecting to God" on a Pashtun forums,what a shame.

no dont some members come and tell me "oh lets discuss with him""oh lets convince him" "oh lets be tolerant to this filth"
is he tolerant ?NO
is he convince/understanding?NO
is he respectful to respectable members such as barakzaiabdali?NO

You're such a coward ...if you don't know how to refute the argument; STAY OUT of the debate.

we need Muslims who can meet the challenges ....not scared wimps who just whine emotionally with an idiotic "Go To Hell"

Leave the task to Muslims like or Randolph85, just worry yourself with useless topics like Taliban fanboy cheer leading and playing with a miswak

[RevolutionThroughReason]

BUT you believe in God, so, whats your response? (if your brave enough to answer)

He claims he believes in a Pantheistic concept of God similar to that of certain Sufi Idealists. but regardless the thesis stated in the book would nullify that too, so I am interested to see DaMalakandGhar's reply.

[Manzareh]

He claims he believes in a Pantheistic concept of God similar to that of certain Sufi Idealists. but regardless the thesis stated in the book would nullify that too, so I am interested to see DaMalakandGhar's reply.

Exactly what i was thinking, i doubt we will get a reply though! might just about slip a sarcastic snidy remark if were lucky enough.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

I don't know what's worse, people like Shadowgovernor/GraveyardofEmpires who urinate in their pants anytime someone challenges his beliefs

or people like DaMalakandGhar/Toramana who pose as if they're intellectually astute and ride off the prestige of more intelligent people, but when probed to challenge their own understanding of the stuff they endorse, try weasaling around it.

He's done this to me before in other friends; that to me just demonstrates intellectual cowardice.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

Shadow, we don't say let Malakand say what he wants because we're kowtowing to his views We do it because we're not afraid of him. He's a self hating immigrant from the third world and it is evident in much of his posts, so why trip?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

you are a debate junkie and you are not refuting anyway but showing us your ugly deviant character.
go burn a Quran you coward because you are mad that Afghans are against your country's hegemony.
i know you have lost all hope in finding a lady so you are here to annoy us with your frustrations.

Shadow;


From what I gather in your various forum posts is that despite your attempts at portraying yourself aas some die hard Pashtun Muslim; you're really a Totally Westernized hypocrite. You're a fan of drug dealers and pimps yet you're worried about these nitwits like Damalakandghar, Get help. It's pathetic that someone as mentally challenged as DaMalakandGhar can humiliate you in a debate.

You talk about "my country" as if I identify politically with American hegemony which I don't; yet you're a citizen of England which is known as the greatest Imperialistic Nation on Earth; "Your country" : The UK is apart of the hegemonic campaign. You're as British and Western as Tony Blair.

As for this whole delusion you have about finding a lady; at least I LIKE women, you on the other hand ...who knows ...usually Taliban supporters are known for their closet homosexuality; it wouldn't surprise me if that applied to you too. All that repression leads to deviance, maybe that's why you're into Wu Tang Clan?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

we already know your intentions buddy.
you know no reason thats why all you do is be provocative and give us Pashtuns and this forum a bad name.
all you post is anti muslim propaganda and i think PF should not give you or soldat boy this platform.

If they give a fool like you a platform; why not fools like them?

[RevolutionThroughReason]

your response is pathetic and pack of lies.
you keep telling yourself these things but i must advise you it is hazardous to your mental health.
accept your faults and try to understand things instead of covering one with another lie.

Ok when you stop listening to Western Rap music which sings about drugs and fornication; renounce your UK citizenship and go help your ISI stooge heroes the Taliban, then give me advice about accepting faults.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

just like you are defending foreign invasion of Afghanistan by default.

If I am defending foreign invasion by "default"; then you are more so, after all you Pay taxes to the UK which funds their killing of Afghans.

[RevolutionThroughReason]

are you insinuating your tax money doesn't go to the UK to continue the war in Afghanistan?

[Karachi]

I find it funny how extremists on both sides play with God's name

[randolph85]

Colin Howson, Emeritus Professor in the Department of Philosophy, Logic and Scientific Method, has a new book, Objecting to God, published last July by Cambridge University Press. The book evaluates the evidence old and new for the existence of a God of the sort the Abrahamic religions postulate, and concludes that there really isn't any: on the contrary, the evidence is very strongly against. Not only do these religions lack any credible foundation, but their influence, the book goes on to argue, is largely malign, embodying a code of ethics both primitive and repressive.

http://www2.lse.ac.uk/philosophy/home.aspx

The growth of science and a correspondingly scientific way of looking at evidence have for the last three centuries slowly been gaining ground over religious explanations of the cosmos and mankind's place in it. However, not only is secularism now under renewed attack from religious fundamentalism, but it has also been widely claimed that the scientific evidence itself points strongly to a universe deliberately fine-tuned for life to evolve in it. In addition, certain aspects of human life, like consciousness and the ability to recognise the existence of universal moral standards, seem completely resistant to evolutionary explanation. In this book Colin Howson analyses in detail the evidence which is claimed to support belief in God's existence and argues that the claim is not well-founded. Moreover, there is very compelling evidence that an all-powerful, all-knowing God not only does not exist but cannot exist, a conclusion both surprising and provocative.

http://www.cambridge.org/us/knowledg...e_locale=en_US

http://www.cambridge.org/servlet/fil...50_excerpt.pdf

this seems like pseudo intellectual trash written by people who need to stay in their field of study, instead of trying to sell books by "challenging god." the excerpt was just ramblings of someone trying introduce politics into his argument. "religions don't get along therefore there must be something wrong with religion".... how astute lol i am just lucky that i haven't read the whole book or else god would of proven false to me and i would have abandoned my religion.


Sura 40:57 "Assuredly the creation of the heavens and the earth is a greater (matter) than the creation of men:yet most men understand not."

these writers who think their ideology is the center of the world should take heed.