Greater Inner War

[MazloomyarMaseed]

I was read about the Qadiriyyah sufis and they made a very good point, which made me think, i think there is a bigger war, but a war that is going on in our inner self.

"Qadiriyyah Sufis beleive An emphasis on the struggle against the evil desires of the inner self. Gilani described it as "The greater holy war." The aim of is inner struggle is repentance, which is attained in two stages: first, repudiating evil deeds forbidden by religious law, and two, overcoming evils such as greed, vanity, and fear."

I beleive, feelings and urges, such as desire, sin, greed and to some extent fear, all contribute to ones inner battle to resolve it, at times, having a desire, such as to eat unhealthy food, can be like a war, to battle the urge and defend the body, if one can develop this strong attribute towards ones character and way of life, I feel it is very beneficial to all.

Regards

[king-zazai]

khudaiii tobahh 2 sufizmm and that gilani guy that has lead soo many "muslims" astray

ok about that statement u have there well islam and the quran and SUNAHH the RIGHT SUNNAH OF RASUL(SAW) not Mr.innovation gilani teaches us all that and of course u r in battle with who........SHAYTANnn thast is ur real enemy


and plz wrora i advice u not 2 read innovted astray horrible sects such as sufism i dont no if u r 1 or agree with them but auzubilahe al-athem

[king-zazai]

and also i dont want 2 get into repentcne 2 much but................... we human r made in a not perfect state and we r bound 2 make mistakes and how do we treat our mistakes with repentance 2 allah(swa) the al-mighty he 4gives all

so i dont no wat sufiz r doing but if they r trying 2 add on top of the 10000 billion innovation they have 2 the real islam that not 2 make man sin at all is ridulous

[MazloomyarMaseed]

khudaiii tobahh 2 sufizmm and that gilani guy that has lead soo many "muslims" astray

ok about that statement u have there well islam and the quran and SUNAHH the RIGHT SUNNAH OF RASUL(SAW) not Mr.innovation gilani teaches us all that and of course u r in battle with who........SHAYTANnn thast is ur real enemy


and plz wrora i advice u not 2 read innovted astray horrible sects such as sufism i dont no if u r 1 or agree with them but auzubilahe al-athem

lol buddy, Wahabism has done no good for Humanity neither, if it wasnt for oil and Saudi/American dollar, Wahabism will be still being preached in the deserts of Arabia.

I am open to all ideas and theories, we cant stick to one.

Bin Laden,Haqqani,Mullah Omars, Alquedas, Hekmatyars etc they all have made Muslims gone astray thru CIA and ISI money.

Kind Regards

[Son of Mountains]

Sufi movements lead mankind to purify their inner world.

On contrary, mullahs need only outer look better, so they work for that.

According to my Baba Jee (My spiritual leader, my Murshad-e-Kareem):-
1) If you have a shop, bad things or nothing inside, but very beautiful outer look, what will be customer ratio?
2) If you have a shop, filled inside, but bad outer look, what will be customer ratio?
3) If you have a shop, filled inside with good outer look, what will be customer ratio?

Number 1 is of no use
Number 2 is good
Number 3 is best

[king-zazai]

lol buddy, Wahabism has done no good for Humanity neither, if it wasnt for oil and Saudi/American dollar, Wahabism will be still being preached in the deserts of Arabia.

I am open to all ideas and theories, we cant stick to one.

Bin Laden,Haqqani,Mullah Omars, Alquedas, Hekmatyars etc they all have made Muslims gone astray thru CIA and ISI money.

Kind Regards

WAT WAHABISM????????? TELL ME WAT WAHABISM?????????????? so following rasul(saw) is wahabismmmm??????????????

u r open minding now r u.... well u can go into kufr the way u r since ur "open minded" but WE pashtun muslims r not we follow islam and only islam the REAL islam


and u point fingers at muslims who caes about them allah u alim wat they really follow or do thats not the point just follow the best exaplme rasul(saw) not ur imam's blindly.....

and also all those ppl that u named who sayed follow them??? and plus let me tell u sumthing how many muslims converted AFTER 9/11 tell me????? it made the word "muslim" in the news and ppl r like wat is this islam so in some way bin laden made crazyyy da'wah


damn man saddens me 2 c OUR pashtuns like this not holding on to the rope of allah......

islam pa zra, quran pa lass thats IT!!!

[king-zazai]

Sufi movements lead mankind to purify their inner world.

On contrary, mullahs need only outer look better, so they work for that.

According to my Baba Jee (My spiritual leader, my Murshad-e-Kareem):-
1) If you have a shop, bad things or nothing inside, but very beautiful outer look, what will be customer ratio?
2) If you have a shop, filled inside, but bad outer look, what will be customer ratio?
3) If you have a shop, filled inside with good outer look, what will be customer ratio?

Number 1 is of no use
Number 2 is good
Number 3 is best

r u a sufi???????????

[king-zazai]

Sufi movements lead mankind to purify their inner world.

On contrary, mullahs need only outer look better, so they work for that.

According to my Baba Jee (My spiritual leader, my Murshad-e-Kareem):-
1) If you have a shop, bad things or nothing inside, but very beautiful outer look, what will be customer ratio?
2) If you have a shop, filled inside, but bad outer look, what will be customer ratio?
3) If you have a shop, filled inside with good outer look, what will be customer ratio?

Number 1 is of no use
Number 2 is good
Number 3 is best

o and ur "spirtual leader" must be a bizness man hehehehe like who does not no that tel me???????? i can even be ur spirtual leader OVSIULYY inside must be good so outside must be

[MazloomyarMaseed]

WAT WAHABISM????????? TELL ME WAT WAHABISM?????????????? so following rasul(saw) is wahabismmmm??????????????

u r open minding now r u.... well u can go into kufr the way u r since ur "open minded" but WE pashtun muslims r not we follow islam and only islam the REAL islam


and u point fingers at muslims who caes about them allah u alim wat they really follow or do thats not the point just follow the best exaplme rasul(saw) not ur imam's blindly.....

and also all those ppl that u named who sayed follow them??? and plus let me tell u sumthing how many muslims converted AFTER 9/11 tell me????? it made the word "muslim" in the news and ppl r like wat is this islam so in some way bin laden made crazyyy da'wah


damn man saddens me 2 c OUR pashtuns like this not holding on to the rope of allah......

islam pa zra, quran pa lass thats IT!!!

At Muslims who cares about Allah?

Listen up you Islamic Stalin, I love Pashtuns, I want a Pashtun homeland, but i dont want training grounds for future Haqqanis and Bin Ladens on Saudi and Pakistani ISI money.

Again, but tell me, what if those muslims who converted, converted to Sufism or even to Shism? What makes you think they think just like you?

It absolutely Saddens me seeing Pashtuns like you, still fighting in the name of god with others, its finished, the soviet war is over, nobody is interested anymore, Well done, not only have you destroyed your pashtun people, you still continue to spread this American CIA/ISI version of Islam everywhere.

Kind Regards

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Also by the way...Iam not a sufi or a Shia.

[شمله ور خراساني]

I was read about the Qadiriyyah sufis and they made a very good point, which made me think, i think there is a bigger war, but a war that is going on in our inner self.

"Qadiriyyah Sufis beleive An emphasis on the struggle against the evil desires of the inner self. Gilani described it as "The greater holy war." The aim of is inner struggle is repentance, which is attained in two stages: first, repudiating evil deeds forbidden by religious law, and two, overcoming evils such as greed, vanity, and fear."

I beleive, feelings and urges, such as desire, sin, greed and to some extent fear, all contribute to ones inner battle to resolve it, at times, having a desire, such as to eat unhealthy food, can be like a war, to battle the urge and defend the body, if one can develop this strong attribute towards ones character and way of life, I feel it is very beneficial to all.

Regards

This is actually not the philosphy of Qaderi tariqa. It is a general concept in Islam. Which is called Jihad un Nafs. Meaning the struggle within.

Jihad un Nafs is a process of self purifications.

Under current circumstrances of great upheaval and vision among Muslims, we are suppose to fight jihad un nafs by purifying ourselves and perfecting our faith.

This process consists of three elements. Tarbiyyah, Tasfiyyah and Tazkiyyah. We are suppose to educated ourselves about the true teaching of Islam, we must study it thoroughly and perfect our faith (imaan) by practising upon the knowledge we acquire. We need to clear ourselves and our mind from false beliefs and all sorts of weaknesses.

The ultimate goal is to become free from all sorts of slavery. Physical and mental slavery. We must stop desiring the worldly matters such as big sums of money, power, authority and status among other people. We must stop being a slave of our own desires. In order to become perfect slaves of our lord. And in the highest state of purification, we reach the ultimate enlightenment and fulfillment.

This is a general philosophy which is derived from both, Qur'an and the Sunnah. This is eventually what the goal of being a Muslim is. To become closer to our lord by being obedient slaves and rejecting all other sorts of slavery of our own personal desires and external infleunces.

The original Qaderis were not far off from this and it was not a bad philosphy.

But later Qaderis, especially the Qaderi sects of today have deviated from original practices. They now have very strange habits and practices that are alien to Islam.

[Son of Mountains]

o and ur "spirtual leader" must be a bizness man hehehehe like who does not no that tel me???????? i can even be ur spirtual leader OVSIULYY inside must be good so outside must be

Use your mind. Its an example. Dont u understand?
Yes I belong to a greatest Sufi Silsila of the world. Our Baba Jee teaches Love and Peace among humanity without caring of Race. He visits routinely from one country to other to preach Islam!