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  • #16
    ^So that is what you say pushing someone to become atheist, you must really had safe and comfortable life. In most muslim country's you can go to jail or even worse got killed, if you become atheist or change to other religion like christianaty.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by AFG21 View Post
      ^So that is what you say pushing someone to become atheist, you must really had safe and comfortable life. In most muslim country's you can go to jail or even worse got killed, if you become atheist or change to other religion like christianaty.
      No, we are being pushed into becoming atheists through bombs, bullets, invasions, drone attacks and extraordinary rendition. Aren't we being told "accept secular/atheist democracy or we will enforce it upon you"!

      You don't see the under-handed scheme because you cannot see past the smokescreen.
      O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by akbarkhan View Post
        No, we are being pushed into becoming atheists through bombs, bullets, invasions, drone attacks and extraordinary rendition. Aren't we being told "accept secular/atheist democracy or we will enforce it upon you"!

        You don't see the under-handed scheme because you cannot see past the smokescreen.
        Very true...
        Secularism is the political system of Atheism and atheism has become a religion. Many are fighting for it, kill for it, being killed for it, uses their energies for it.
        They are spreading it through media, through wars and any any other source they could get it.
        I call all the secularists and atheists the followers of dajjaal.

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        • #19
          This whole war is wrong and its not about religion like you like to belive but about oil in Iraq and minerals and strategic location of Afghanistan. You just makes things up, Western world don't care about Islam, if they really cared then why USA and other western countrys suported jihadist againsta the USSR, and the ayatollah of Iran leaved before the revolution in France. In the 70's mojority ofthe muslim country were western oreintated and progressive, if you look at Iran Iraq Egypt and even Afghanistan in 70 they were really diffent then how they are now. Actually becuase of the interfiring of the Westerns they become more radical and Islamic. Isn't that strange.
          I cal all the extremist and Taliban supportes are the true folowers of dajjaal.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by AFG21 View Post
            This whole war is wrong and its not about religion like you like to belive but about oil in Iraq and minerals and strategic location of Afghanistan. You just makes things up, Western world don't care about Islam, if they really cared then why USA and other western countrys suported jihadist againsta the USSR, and the ayatollah of Iran leaved before the revolution in France. In the 70's mojority ofthe muslim country were western oreintated and progressive, if you look at Iran Iraq Egypt and even Afghanistan in 70 they were really diffent then how they are now. Actually becuase of the interfiring of the Westerns they become more radical and Islamic. Isn't that strange.
            I cal all the extremist and Taliban supportes are the true folowers of dajjaal.
            We don't make things up, you just don't know what you are talking about. The Western world supported the so called Jihadists because it was in their interest to do so, once USSR was toppled they left and allowed the so called Jihadists scavenge and loot Afghanistan, hence, the rise of Taliban.

            If the West didn't care about Islam, they wouldn't have funded Mustafa Kemal Turk, they wouldn't support tyrant rulers in the so called Islamic countries, they wouldn't have systematic global propaganda campaigns, etc, etc.
            O'faithful hearken thy vezir, for he promises them another Gandamak and for the ancestors of Hari Nalwa a similar fate has been sealed. We shall shake the foundations of their inner sanctums, written in gold and immortal will remain this endeavor of Afghans.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by akbarkhan View Post
              We don't make things up, you just don't know what you are talking about. The Western world supported the so called Jihadists because it was in their interest to do so, once USSR was toppled they left and allowed the so called Jihadists scavenge and loot Afghanistan, hence, the rise of Taliban.

              If the West didn't care about Islam, they wouldn't have funded Mustafa Kemal Turk, they wouldn't support tyrant rulers in the so called Islamic countries, they wouldn't have systematic global propaganda campaigns, etc, etc.
              You are saing it your self, it was in there interest. They don't care about Islam they don't care about the peopel they just want money, those tyrants they suported was becuase they did what they were asked, once they do not they are removed. The so called anti-islam propaganda don't reach any muslim world. you leave in the west that's way you think they are against you. Show me some proof that the West have anti-islam propaganda in the Islamic world. They don't do it and some small groups of christain missanary are mostly in Africa, they were there before this whole Islam against the world issue started.

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              • #22
                How can Atheists be more intelligent. They don't know about even the creator of this universe which is a universal reality. I would call them dumbest ever people on this planet.
                Darwinism or any other fake theory will never make them superior to even a simple Muslim living in forests.

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                • #23
                  ^But steal the ateist leave in the most richest devolped and progressive countrys in this world, so that dumb they can't be.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by AFG21 View Post
                    ^But steal the ateist leave in the most richest devolped and progressive countrys in this world, so that dumb they can't be.
                    richness has nothing to do with intelligence or superiority. Firon was the richest in his time but he was the most cursed on this planet.
                    Hazrat Ali R.A was the poorest of all sahabas but he was one of the bravest and the most intelligent persons among the Arabs.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by AFG21 View Post
                      ^But steal the ateist leave in the most richest devolped and progressive countrys in this world, so that dumb they can't be.

                      Muslims once had the most devoloped and advanced nations, indians, chinese and many other nations who had state religion were also one of the most developed nations once upon a time.

                      Intelligence has nothing to do with a belief system. you can be a religious person and be a brilliant mathmatician or physicist or an atheist and brilliant at many things. Its just that there is a difference in the way a religious person and an atheist person thinks. A religious person is naturally less materialistic and his endevours are to do the right thing according to his belief system and please his creator. An atheist person relies on his own whims and desires and works towards his own goals and what he believes to be right.

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                      • #26
                        China and India are devoloping once again and they will be ahead at the end of this century of West and other EU nations.
                        I am not saing that somebody is dum just becuase they belive or not belive in something my point was to show this emkhan that Atheist are not dum. He is the only one here who discriminates and calling peopel dajjal. Do you even know one singel atheist mr. Emkhan?
                        I don't think so.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by AFG21 View Post
                          China and India are devoloping once again and they will be ahead at the end of this century of West and other EU nations.
                          I am not saing that somebody is dum just becuase they belive or not belive in something my point was to show this emkhan that Atheist are not dum. He is the only one here who discriminates and calling peopel dajjal. Do you even know one singel atheist mr. Emkhan?
                          I don't think so.
                          Brother if you ever have a chance to sit with secular minded people and start discussion about religion and God's words even if they are Muslims. You will realize that they consider Islam and its teachings as outdated and expired.
                          They consider the word of God just as stories of the old time. They don't care for moral values, they have soft corner for apostates, they want a free society where everyone could do whatever he or she wants. Their religion is modernism, materialism even if it goes against the teachings of Islam.
                          Thats why I say Atheism has become a religion and secularism is its political system and the secularists are its followers who fight for it, kill for it, being killed for it, using their energies for it.
                          All the secular minded people are actually followers of dajjaal and dajjaal's system is secularism plus atheism plus materialism.

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                          • #28
                            Oke its your vieuw meybe you had some bad expirience whith secular peopel, do you live in a secular society? most secular peopel that I know actualy all of my friends are secular and they have respect for my religion, when I am fasting in ramadan they always ask me questions about it, and ecourage me and say that what I do is really good becuase I explaind to them about fasting and some thing about Islam. They never said to me that what I belive is a fairy tale or I should become like them. Not all of them are materialistic becuase the mojority always choose that job were thet feel comfortable and thinking that they do something good, and most afghans choose that job were you can earn a lot of money, so who is materialistic here. If you leave in Pakistan and never met a westerner or an Ateheist then you should not make such bold conclusions and calling them folowers of dajjal.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by AFG21 View Post
                              Oke its your vieuw meybe you had some bad expirience whith secular peopel, do you live in a secular society? most secular peopel that I know actualy all of my friends are secular and they have respect for my religion, when I am fasting in ramadan they always ask me questions about it, and ecourage me and say that what I do is really good becuase I explaind to them about fasting and some thing about Islam. They never said to me that what I belive is a fairy tale or I should become like them. Not all of them are materialistic becuase the mojority always choose that job were thet feel comfortable and thinking that they do something good, and most afghans choose that job were you can earn a lot of money, so who is materialistic here. If you leave in Pakistan and never met a westerner or an Ateheist then you should not make such bold conclusions and calling them folowers of dajjal.
                              I am talking about the Muslim secularists who have read books written by secular minded writers and they are highly inspired by these writers' ideologies. They are so called highly educated people but their brain are washed with such false ideologies.
                              I don't know which people are you talking about ?

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                              • #30
                                Pffff just leave it, secularist are secularist, I am a muslim I am secularist, if you cal your own peopel folowers of dajjal then discusing whith you is just uselles. I want secular system becuase I am tired that filthy peopel use Islam for politics and power.
                                Last edited by AFG21; 10-23-2011, 01:32 PM.

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