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    A bill which would ban halal and kosher slaughter methods has passed
    through the Dutch parliament, despite opposition from Muslim and Jewish
    groups who say a ban would impinge on their religious freedoms.


    The bill, which was passed overwhelmingly by parliamentarians on
    Wednesday, still has to pass through the Dutch senate, which is unlikely
    before the summer recess.


    The Dutch cabinet said on Monday that the law may be unenforceable in
    its current form due to the ambiguity of a last-minute amendment that
    says religious slaughter licenses can be granted if they can "prove" that it
    does not cause animals more pain than stunning.


    If the Netherlands outlaws procedures that make meat kosher for Jews or
    halal for Muslims, it would be the second country after New Zealand to do
    so in recent years. Luxembourg, Norway, Sweden and Switzerland also ban
    religious slaughter.


    Henk Blekers, the Dutch deputy secretary of economic affairs and
    agriculture, said that the cabinet would "look at how it fits with freedom of
    religion", citing the European Convention on Human Rights.


    Both halal and kosher slaughter rules prescribe that animals' throats must be
    cut swiftly with a razor-sharp knife while they are still conscious, so
    that they bleed to death quickly.

    'Animal rights over religious rights'


    But the Party for Animals, the main proponents of the proposed law, argue
    that sparing animals needless pain and distress outweighs religious groups'
    rights to follow their respective slaughter practices.


    "They (livestock) stay conscious for up to 5 minutes. They lose a lot of
    blood and they can choke on their own blood and the cut should be one
    time, but research shows that with kosher slaughter (they are cut) on
    average 3.5 times, and with halal 5.5 times," Karen Soeters of the Party for
    Animals told Al Jazeera.


    But defenders of the practices said that religious slaughter methods could
    be humane.


    "With halal, the animal can't be stressed. It can't see other animals being
    killed," Abdulhakim Chouaati of the Dutch Halal Feed and Food Authority
    told Al Jazeera.


    "It's our religion we're practicing, and expressing religion in our modern
    industrial society is not a thing which is appealing to the public," Ronnie
    Eisenmann, a Jewish community leader in the Netherlands told Al Jazeera.


    In an open letter pleading with parliament not to pass the law, a a
    committee of rabbis said the impact on the Jewish community would be
    "deep and large".


    "Older Jews are frightened and wonder what the next law will be that limits
    their religious life. The youth are openly asking whether they still have a
    future that they can or want to build in the Netherlands," the letter
    continued.


    Only Christian political parties opposed the ban, arguing that it undermined
    the country's tradition of religious tolerance.


    A solid majority of Dutch voters say they support the ban, and parliament
    voted for it by a margin of 116 for to 30 against.


    The support for the ban comes from an odd pairing of the political left,
    which sees religious slaughter as inhumane, and from the anti-immigration
    right, which says it is foreign and barbaric.




    Dutch MPs vote to ban religious slaughter - Europe - Al Jazeera English
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    own inclinations and desires
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  • #2
    if that's their concern they should BAN meat period. Since most methods of animal slaughter are insanely gruelingly brutal especially compared to halal slaughter.

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    • #3
      perhaps stoning would be more humane, scimitar.

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      • #4
        do you think its ok to ban someones Kosher food?
        dont worry the jews are up on this case

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        • #5
          Originally posted by faye View Post
          perhaps stoning would be more humane, scimitar.
          I would gladly stone idiotic dutchmen if I had the chance.

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          • #6
            australia has just banned live cattle exports to indonesia, after some grim footage of the treatment and slaughter of the cattle there. muslims here have stated that the cruelty was not the correct way for muslims to slaughter but it has backfired on australia. the cattle industry now has to be compensated and the govt is getting a backlash from the industry here. it was very badly organised. the australian government just banned without any diplomatic communications with the indonesian government.
            we do our own cruelty to other animals in cages, chickens (NOT crossing road ones) pigs, etc, so it is very hypocritical.

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            • #7
              the move is motivated by far right dutch anyways ....it's really a pretext.

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              • #8
                the jewish and christians are against it as well and they say its against their freedom of religion.

                there is also this one party which is called "party for animals",they want all meat consumtion banned.

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                • #9
                  I agree with Scimitar here.
                  Does anyone have a credible source about New Zealand banning zabihah slaughtering methods? I wonder as most of the imported lamb available for purchase here is under a halal label.

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                  • #10
                    The ban is not in effect yet. It must first pass through the senate.

                    And even if it does, which I believe it will, nothing really changes. Many so called "muslims" will continue to eat the fake halal meat which is sold everywhere.

                    This prohibition specifically targets particular slaughter houses of Ahlul Sunnah wal Jama'at.

                    The Sufis and other deviants let their cattle be injected with intoxicants before they slaughter them.
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                    • #11
                      the dutch seem to be some of the most anti islamic people on earth. with this current trend, they might as well legalize rape, robbery, and murder to get back at that nasty shariah.
                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

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                      • #12
                        they are cowards. They have a deep hatred for anything foreign. Especially if it is non-Western European.

                        But they never show their hostility.

                        It is the voting booth when their nasty true face reveals itself.
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                        • #13
                          so be it

                          its the failure of muslims that we create the situations in our homelands where muslims feel they are better off in a foreign country that hates them than at home.

                          we shouldn't even be living among such trash, nor should we expect them to accept us.
                          There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                          Sayyid Qutb

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
                            so be it

                            its the failure of muslims that we create the situations in our homelands where muslims feel they are better off in a foreign country that hates them than at home.

                            we shouldn't even be living among such trash, nor should we expect them to accept us.
                            Making hijra is fard upon every Muslim. But there are so many things that are fard, yet we neglect them as inconvenient sidenotes to what we believe Islam to be.
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                            • #15
                              we would not have to debate the matter or even depend on non muslims to grant us our basic islamic rights had not the muslims at home reverted to jahiliyah.

                              we were taught almost 1400 years ago that the non believers would not accept us until we became one of them. this is nothing new, nor should we be surprised.
                              There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                              Sayyid Qutb

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