Will the World Really End?

[pir_Rokhan]

We have been hearing all these fake theories based on the some stories and tales narrated by the ignorant people.It is worth listening to a Physicist who knows much more about the world and universe then the ignorant Mullas who use religion as their source of income.

Listen to the video carefully.

http://bigthink.com/series/31?selected=18973#player

[Palwasha]

Re: Will the World Really End?

Physics always was my least favourite science...

Also, these Physcists, with the help of modern technology (and endless amount of money), have discovered things which have already been known much before their time. I don't rate them all that much.

We have been hearing all these fake theories based on the some stories and tales narrated by the ignorant people.It is worth listening to a Physicist who knows much more about the world and universe then the ignorant Mullas who use religion as their source of income.

Interesting...and when you say tales, fake theories etc. exactly what are you referring to wror?

And not every mullah is ignorant or money mongering, there's a few bad eggs in every basket.

[Palwasha]

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^Erm what are on you about..?

Pir_Rokhan expressed his views and I expressed mine, ya get me.

[Palwasha]

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^Do you have any clue how much they have contributed?

Enlighten me.

How can you make such a comment.

Wasn't very hard - just typed what I thought kana.

Physics isn't a belief, it's an aspect of science; there's no obligation upon me to accept *every* single theory they come up with - (not saying I deny science).

And such a comment...?

I don't even know exactly what you're on about, but dude please, it's not as if I wished death on them, I'm just not into physics.

Whatever you think is up to you mate, but don't shoot down others who oppose, challenge or question.

@ Alokozai - Thank you wrora.

[Master Khan]

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what is this crap

[pir_Rokhan]

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because of people like that people turn athiest.

What he is saying is based on scientific proof and not what you have learnt in your mosques from the mullas who need education themselves.So I would suggest to debate it on scientific grounds if you have sufficient knowledge instead of passing judgments like "muftis".Our judgement means nothing to the community of the learned people.

[pir_Rokhan]

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Physics always was my least favourite science...

Also, these Physcists, with the help of modern technology (and endless amount of money), have discovered things which have already been known much before their time. I don't rate them all that much.

We have been hearing all these fake theories based on the some stories and tales narrated by the ignorant people.It is worth listening to a Physicist who knows much more about the world and universe then the ignorant Mullas who use religion as their source of income.

Interesting...and when you say tales, fake theories etc. exactly what are you referring to wror?

And not every mullah is ignorant or money mongering, there's a few bad eggs in every basket.

Khanay
Where did you get this revelation that those things were known much before them.

I am referring to all those tales which may be your brother or father ,if not you, would have heard being narrated by the stereotypes called 'Tablighi'.Their whole philosophy is to say astalavista to logic reason and argument.

About mulla I was focussing on mulla's intellectual and academic abilities and knowledge of contemporary social and physical sciences ,nothing aimed at their personna.I sympathise with them for their obsolete knowledge about the life and universe.

[pir_Rokhan]

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^How dare you say such a thing, The nerves.

Excuse me? Are you referring to me to Michio kaku or to khanay?

Let me know ,if its me or kaku so I would like to dare a little more to your surprise.

I disagree with Khanay khor on the basis which I mentioned in repply to her post.

[pir_Rokhan]

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^Do you have any clue how much they have contributed? How can you make such a comment.

If 'they" mean scientists ,I corroborate your reply.If its mullas I would like to know their contribution.Please always be specific.

[pir_Rokhan]

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what is this crap

What is what crap? This is like "dagha".Elaborate with arguments.

[Master Khan]

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[quote=pir_Rokhan]

what is this crap

What is what crap? This is like "dagha".Elaborate with arguments.[/quote:2851dnvx]
I don't believe this crap.
Only Allah can end the world and no one else can.

[pir_Rokhan]

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Pir Rokhan, What is your view on this!

Afridi Khana wrora

Regarding the theory part science has space for debate and criticism but regarding the scientifically proved part we do not have any source to know except the science.

The problem with us is that the moment we hear anything related to knowledge and science,we directly reject it attributing it to God without knowing what do we mean.Foe example ,saying God can destroy the world does not contradict what science says.Sceince tells us how will the God destroy the world.

God sends the rain may be the beleif of a beleiver but science tells us how he sends the rain.

God created the universe but how has he created is what science tells us.

The illogical mentality nurtured by our religeous people is a big hurdle to our progress.

Knowledge and creativity is the product of enquiry and skepticism not belief and faith.It is another bitter fact that what we call faith is just the emotional and non scientific explanation of some clergymen who have no idea of what the world and universe is about and have conquered the minds of our simple people with their sweet words which is a social requirement to get more and more alms and charity.

[Shamaar]

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We have to remember that Physics is a man-made thing. Just like the laws of countries, Physics is not perfect. Only the laws of Allah (swt) are perfect.

I have a degree in Chemical Physics and I know how quickly this science changes. In the 1800s they thought they knew everything, then came Einstein with Quantum Mechanics and changed the world.

I gaurantee you someone will bring another new revelation soon that will bring scientists back to square one.

If these people are still learning about the world, then how can they possibly predict when it will end lol.

[Palwasha]

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Where did you get this revelation that those things were known much before them.

I meant in the Quran, but I understand when you say..

''God sends the rain may be the beleif of a beleiver but science tells us how he sends the rain.

God created the universe but how has he created is what science tells us''

We have to remember that Physics is a man-made thing. Just like the laws of countries, Physics is not perfect. Only the laws of Allah (swt) are perfect.

I have a degree in Chemical Physics and I know how quickly this science changes. In the 1800s they thought they knew everything, then came Einstein with Quantum Mechanics and changed the world.

I gaurantee you someone will bring another new revelation soon that will bring scientists back to square one.

If these people are still learning about the world, then how can they possibly predict when it will end lol.

*Completely* agree.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

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because of people like that people turn athiest.

What he is saying is based on scientific proof and not what you have learnt in your mosques from the mullas who need education themselves.So I would suggest to debate it on scientific grounds if you have sufficient knowledge instead of passing judgments like "muftis".Our judgement means nothing to the community of the learned people.

I gotta love you for this, man.. What you've posted above is something I know to be the absolute truth in the face of Medievalist backwardness and the culture of hateful ignorance. "Oh no, men are wearing women's clothes and vice-versa, the world's gonna end". Or "Oh my, there is corruption upon the earth! The world is going to end". Some others say:

"The Mayans said 2012. So 2012 it is".
"Reptiles are walking on the earth... the end of times is here".
"My holy book says xyz will happen and then the world will end. And now xyz is beginning to happen omg".

I can't even begin to describe how much such assessments make me angry. How about we, for a change, listen to the people who actually know more about the universe than the fattest Mufti with the biggest beard and the largest collection of underage wives will ever be able to conceive? When I get sick, I trust doctors, not magicians. Therefore, when it comes to my universe, I trust Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawkins over generic mufti #1 and all his mindless opium-ridden zombies.