Was Rasullulah (saw) Romantic?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

The thread starter is very shameless.

AaG, what is it to you if he was or if he was not?

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

The thread starter is very shameless.

AaG, what is it to you if he was or if he was not?

It is not a knock on the man if he was...in fact, I would respect him even more. What an alpha male...Indeed, I wish to be as the Prophet. I hope Allah blesses me with the same fortitude he blessed the Prophet

An additional three Hadith from Ibn Sad's "Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir"9, volume 1, pages 438, 439. (I have omitted the isnaad and the obligatory blessing on Muhammad):

…The apostle of Allah said, "Gabriel brought a kettle from which I ate and I was given the power of sexual intercourse to forty men."
…The apostle of Allah was given the power to equal to that of forty men and the people of paradise will be given the power equal to eighty men
…The prophet was granted the power of sexual intercourse to that of forty men.

Ibn Kathir commenting on 56:35-37 says regarding the amount of times a man can have sex in one day in Paradise:

(In Paradise, the believer will be given such and such strength for women.) Anas said, "I asked, `O Allah's Messenger! Will one be able to do that' He said,

(He will be given the strength of a hundred (men).)'' At-Tirmidhi also recorded it and said, "Sahih Gharib.'' Abu Al-Qasim At-Tabarani recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah was asked, "O Allah's Messenger! Will we have sexual intercourse with our wives in Paradise'' He said,

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

You are very wretched. A lot of what you are quoting is for purposes of fiqh, not what you are using it for.

Could we please talk about your mother and father?

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Definition of a Mack

one who is good with the opposite sex, usually a male.

http://onlineslangdictionary.com/definition+of/mack

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Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, 'Muhammad (has come).' (Some of our companions added, "With his army.") We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, 'O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.' The Prophet said, 'Go and take any slave girl.' He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, 'O Allah's Apostle! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.' So the Prophet said, 'Bring him along with her.' So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, 'Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.' Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her."

Thabit asked Anas, "O Abu Hamza! What did the Prophet pay her (as Mahr)?" He said, "Her self was her Mahr for he manumitted her and then married her." Anas added, "While on the way, Um Sulaim dressed her for marriage (ceremony) and at night she sent her as a bride to the Prophet . So the Prophet was a bridegroom and he said, 'Whoever has anything (food) should bring it.' He spread out a leather sheet (for the food) and some brought dates and others cooking butter. (I think he (Anas) mentioned As-Sawaq). So they prepared a dish of Hais (a kind of meal). And that was Walima (the marriage banquet) of Allah's Apostle ." Bukhari, volume 1 #367

Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet came to Khaibar and when Allah made him victorious and he conquered the town by breaking the enemy's defense, the beauty of Safiya bint Huyai bin Akhtab was mentioned to him and her husband had been killed while she was a bride. Allah's Apostle selected her for himself and he set out in her company till he reached Sadd-ar-Rawha' where her menses were over and he married her. … Bukhari, volume 3 #437
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This story is that one day Muhammad went to visit his adopted son Zaid (also spelled Zayd). Zaid was not home but his wife Zaynab was. Muhammad saw her scantily dressed and commented on her great beauty. The wife overheard Muhammad and was flattered. This caused her to gloat and in turn she taunted her husband. Therefore Zaid, knowing that Muhammad wanted her to satisfy his sexual desire, went to Muhammad and offered to divorce her. Muhammad told him not to divorce her but to remain with her. However the damage had been done and Zaid could no longer withhold something, even his wife’s body, from Muhammad. A short while later Zaid divorced Zaynab to enable Muhammad to marry her and satisfy his lust. Thereafter Muhammad did indeed marry her.
Below is the passage from the Quran on this event.

You said to the man whom God and yourself have favored: ‘Keep your wife and have fear of God.’ You sought to hide in your heart what God was to reveal. You were afraid of man, although it would have been more proper to fear God. And when Zayd divorced his wife, We gave her to you in marriage, so that it should become legitimate for true believers to wed the wives of their adopted sons if they divorced them. God’s will must needs be done. No blame shall be attached to the Prophet for doing what is sanctioned for him by God. Such was the way of God with the prophets who passed away before him (God’s decrees are pre-ordained); who fulfilled the mission with which God had charged them, fearing God and fearing none beside Him. Sufficient is God’s reckoning. The Confederate Tribes, 33:37, 38 Dawood.


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[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Several things I must mention

1. If any of these quotes are in correct, please let me know. I am not an Islamaphobe nor do I have an anti Islamic agenda. So please correct me if these statements are false

2. I am not applying, IN ANY WAY, a MORAL JUDGEMENT on the Prophet. (ie. he was wrong for doing this). I am simply assessing the mans accomplishments, and admiring them. I see him exercising his rights as a powerful worldly man. I dont see nothing wrong with what he did. I wouldve done the same damn thing.

3. My initial statement, remains factually correct. The Prophet (PBUH) was a Mack on the highest level of Mackery

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

You are pathetic, truly. Stop smoking.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Several things I must mention

1. If any of these quotes are in correct, please let me know. I am not an Islamaphobe nor do I have an anti Islamic agenda. So please correct me if these statements are false

2. I am not applying, IN ANY WAY, a MORAL JUDGEMENT on the Prophet. (ie. he was wrong for doing this). I am simply assessing the mans accomplishments, and admiring them. I see him exercising his rights as a powerful worldly man. I dont see nothing wrong with what he did. I wouldve done the same damn thing.

3. My initial statement, remains factually correct. The Prophet (PBUH) was a Mack on the highest level of Mackery

Obviously, there is no point in discussing the realities of what you are stating. Why? Because of your tone.

You have no self-respect.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Obviously, there is no point in discussing the realities of what you are stating. Why? Because of your tone.

You have no self-respect.

Please esteemed Akhi who denies the finality of Mohamed`s Prophethood but wants to defend him from something that the Prophet himself wouldnt deny, can you please confirm if my information is correct, and can you please dispute the notion that the Prophet was a Mack, which is defined by my link as ``one who is good with the opposite sex, usually a male.`` ?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

You truly are pathetic. And, you want to help Afghanistan? Please. You are just an opportunist.

How does the life of my Prophet (saw) affect you, you have left Islam?

If you truly want to discuss this matter, you have two choices: First let us talk about your parents' sex life. Or, change your tone.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

You truly are pathetic. And, you want to help Afghanistan? Please. You are just an opportunist.

How does the life of my Prophet (saw) affect you, you have left Islam?

If you truly want to discuss this matter, you have two choices: First let us talk about your parents' sex life. Or, change your tone.

Why would we have to discuss my parents sex lives? Quite perverted arent you?

My parents are not Prophets, nor have they claimed to be a moral authority, nor are their teachings and philosophies the foundation for the spiritual lives of over a billion people. In fact they are completely irrelevant to this discussion.

I am not going to change my tone because of some insolent online request. If youre not going to address the content of what Im saying, then please dont whine and cry about how I convey that content. Feel free to leave the thread.

I have not made a single dollar off Afghanistan, have not appropriated a single acre of land, built a single brick of a narco mansion, sold a single ounce of opium, or worked even for 2 seconds with a foreign govt or intelligence services.

How this makes me an opportunist is beyond me. I am a humble handsome Qibail Pakhtun, nothing more.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I am the perverted one? You seriously wrote that? Seriously? Since you have already accused me of being one, then nothing to lose. Gloves off!

The point of bringing your parents into this? Because the Prophet (saw) is our father and his wives are all our mothers.

Since you are so wretched and ill-mannered, and have no self-respect, allow us first to discuss your parents' sex lives. When you have met your end of the deal we will discuss my parents'.

Now, why are you so much into having many women? Romanticism? Jealousy? Complex? What is it?

Yes, your parents might not have been prophets, but they sure raised you to enjoy the idea of being a mack. This is why I want to discuss how your father managed to regain your mother after his tool sagged, and he got it fixed. Was he trying to beat the Prophet (saw)? And, how your mom only goes for macks? Is this why your dad had to "experiment" in order to be good? Or, did he give up because he could not keep up and instead sold your mother to keep her satisfied? Is this the lesson that your mother and father gained from Islam--you have to be a mack? And, when they realized how mistaken they were in following a blind faith they left Islam?

That being said, where do you find in Islam that we are encouraged to be 'macks?' Had your father not sold your mother because he could not satisfy her, you would still be a Muslim, and would not have used your family's misinterpretation of Islam as a reason to leave Islam.

[fzpz]

He was a human being, i'm sure he was (and he was). Him being a lady's man (and its evident that he was) only adds to his stature.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

I am the perverted one? You seriously wrote that? Seriously? Since you have already accused me of being one, then nothing to lose. Gloves off!

The point of bringing your parents into this? Because the Prophet (saw) is our father and his wives are all our mothers.

Since you are so wretched and ill-mannered, and have no self-respect, allow us first to discuss your parents' sex lives. When you have met your end of the deal we will discuss my parents'.

Now, why are you so much into having many women? Romanticism? Jealousy? Complex? What is it?

Yes, your parents might not have been prophets, but they sure raised you to enjoy the idea of being a mack. This is why I want to discuss how your father managed to regain your mother after his tool sagged, and he got it fixed. Was he trying to beat the Prophet (saw)? And, how your mom only goes for macks? Is this why your dad had to "experiment" in order to be good? Or, did he give up because he could not keep up and instead sold your mother to keep her satisfied? Is this the lesson that your mother and father gained from Islam--you have to be a mack? And, when they realized how mistaken they were in following a blind faith they left Islam?

That being said, where do you find in Islam that we are encouraged to be 'macks?' Had your father not sold your mother because he could not satisfy her, you would still be a Muslim, and would not have used your family's misinterpretation of Islam as a reason to leave Islam.

Ahahahahahahahahah, the holy man of PF has been reduced to pathetic pityful slandering of parents. Wow, let it be a matter of public record how easily you were exposed.

That is easily the most pathetic posting ever. I ask a legitimate question, and I get my mother and father insulted, under some stupid premise that the Prophet is your dad and we shouldnt question him

Let the record show how easily even the most religious people ``take the gloves`` off. What a stupid immature individual you are lol.

Whoever in your brain okayed that post should be fired. Im lamenating this post and hanging it on my wall. Pathetic loser. And YOU STILL DIDNT ADDRESS my post ahahaha

epic epic fail

[khushal]

Please factually disprove that the Prophet Muhammad was a Mack

First your stating that he was a gangster.
Google
gang·ster noun /ˈgaNGstər/
gangsters, plural

1. A member of a gang of violent criminals

Then you say he was a super mack


mack

Mack- (verb) To hit on, flirt with, or seduce a female by using verbal or sometimes physical means of persuasion.


What you don't realize is that this Gheto language you admire so much actually is very disrespectful. It glamorizes promiscuity and having out of wedlock children as something to be proud of, to participate and getting away with criminal activities is a hero, a smooth operator. these things are against the teachings of Mohammad (pbuh).

What you are doing is trying to glamorize him the same way people in the gheto are glamorized today which is a blasphemous attempt..

[fzpz]

He was also into jokes. I doubt he'd go all holy over this.

Your issue is with the definitions/connotations of the word 'mack'. Mack hardly means what the official definition states anymore. Point still stands, he was a lady's man.