This is not Islam, this is Sufism

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

We dont have any commonalities. Because if we would compare our beliefs we will have to stop after 5 seconds. Because your testimony of faith is void. Since you believe in a British slave to be a Prophet.

Actually, we would be still discussing until next year. Don't be too negative.

[شمله ور خراساني]

And the beheadings are carried by little children? Was there a trail, was there a shura? How do you know those people beheaded were actual spies, and not victim of paranoid netherlands who are so afraid for kaffir that they'll kill someone over a fart,if they suspected it some how sent a magical signal to a drone?

You are making excuses. Because you know that if you go back to your home village and express your hostility and animosity to those who fight for their indepndence and Shariah you will meet the same faith as the one in the beheading video.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Actually, we would be still discussing until next year. Don't be too negative.

No need to discuss. About 10 different people refuted you here on this forum last summer.

Your heart is covered from the truth.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Yet more lies, more and more, coming from the self-proclaimed "authentic" Muslim.

But I'm not surprised, you have an authentic sahi Bukhari hadees for that.

Is that the latest weapon of you crypto-secularists? To label people as liars?

[Wrayun]

re Wrayun:

Salafis in and beyond Saudi Arabia are likely totally against all that collaboration of 'The Kingdom' with Zionism.
Don't fault them.
Fault the Royals in Saudi who are the colluders.

Don't address me, you been told before. We don't know what or who you are, and therefore you are irrelevant.

But, FYI, all the actions of Saudis, are supported by Salafi Wahabi Sheikhs. Just like the recent protests, where Salafi, Wahabi, were quick to release their AUTHENTIC fatwas, to denounce any uprising.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

No need to discuss. About 10 different people refuted you here on this forum last summer.

Your heart is covered from the truth.

Actually, no one did. NO ONE.

Don't judge people's heart, it is a not an easy seat to take.

[Wrayun]

Is that the latest weapon of you crypto-secularists? To label people as liars?

No, just stating a fact, crypto-suicide bomber in the Netherlands.

[Catya Sher]

SK wrote: "what does that make Sufis and secularists like Wrayun & co? People who oppose those Pashtuns who want to liberate their country from foreign occupation and kaafirs?"

So Wrayun is an actual murid of a Pir? Which one if so ?
A real Pir would advocate for the freedom of the country.
I haven't heard of too many who do at least traceably.

[شمله ور خراساني]

But, FYI, all the actions of Saudis, are supported by Salafi Wahabi Sheikhs. Just like the recent protests, where Salafi, Wahabi, were quick to release their AUTHENTIC fatwas, to denounce any uprising.

wahhabi salafi shuyukh are wrong. Can you prove from Quran and Sunnah that muslims should go and shout democracy and secularism in streets where men and women mix and dance and sing?

If you do, I will listen to you rather than wahhabi shuyukh.

[شمله ور خراساني]

No, just stating a fact, crypto-suicide bomber in the Netherlands.

Fact? Just like Admin deleted my threads and denied ever doing so?

[Fahd]

You are too mast on Salafiya Wahabiya Halwa brother.

Those Sufis are crazies, but you can't label all Sufis with the same brush. That is the point of my post.

BTW, how are your Salafiya, Wahabiya, Saudi beradaars doing? Oil pumping well? Stomachs full? How many gallons were sold to Israel and Amreeka in the last 48 hrs? Do you know that without Salafiya, Wahabiya OIL, Amreekan war machines can't move an inch? Which = victory to Mujahideen.

Salafiya, Wahabiya = MUNAFIQIYA!

i didnt say any thing about sufis else who in the pic's !!

LOL calling who keep the quran and propht sunna safe by allah help and sayin they are monafiqs :S thats not good brainwashed mullah !! i wish u can talk with one of the dr's in umm alqura UNI so he can give u great lesson's in islam :D cuz i dont know alot and i dont like act like i know and lying :p
u should come to makkah and visit the uni for help ur islam !!

oh ^ i dont know alot about sufi !! llol and about the country !! they dont Representing islam in KSA !! and all the countries in this world soppurting the USA if not by army then by money or media or land !!

im off to sleep
:p shpa de tol pakhyer

[ScimitarXEdge]

Let scientists study them. Mushrik Shamans in Syberia do exactly the same tricks. This practice is not part of Islam and it is not part of Allah's Iradat Shariyyah

Proof please?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Sangar, instead of trying to bring your brethren together with your knowledge you are causing hatred by blowing things out of proportion.

Don't forget that you might not die in a state of imaan, and the ones whom you hate might. It is the state of death that matters. So, be careful, dear brother.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Proof please?

Its on Discovery channel documentary.

[ScimitarXEdge]

those are all practices founded in Quran and Sunnah. I can even give you reference from Quran and Sunnah.

And btw: the video of lashing the girl in Swat was fake LOL



Is Mujadidi not Sufi?

Is Sayed Pir Jelani not Sufi?

Are those Sufis who give fatwa and tell Muslims to go serve Americans and Pakistanis to kill our brothers not Sufis?

Aren't Barelwis Sufis who are the largest religious denomination in Pakistani Army?

Weren't Shamil Daghestani and Abdul Qadir Juzairi, and Shah Waliyullah Dehlawi and Faqir of Ipi and Mullah Lewanay? also Sufis?