Don't Believe the Hype: This is What Secularists are really Defending.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Notice none of the Secularists are in this thread commenting or even showing any sympathy to the plight of these people.


They're too busy calling Immoral fornicators and Adulterers "weak and vulnerable" because of being publicly flogged.

[Catya Sher]

^ They are so distorted in their vision: hating every last Islamic-oriented practice or idea, yet turning their backs - like the proverbial turnCOAT - when there's something really cruel being done like drone attacks or this radiation problem.

How few voices on the entire planet are speaking the truth about this war...
compliments to all those who ARE, or to those who appreciate such efforts.

[randolph85]

secularists have shown throughout history that they have no problem with mass extermination of innocents for their earthly goals.

[Catya Sher]

Radioactive Ore in Kurram Agency


By Dr Ghayur Ayub


According to the 'Mineral Wing' of Pakistan Mineral Development Corporation PMDC) Kurram Agency has large mineral deposits including coal, copper, zinc, soapstone etc. With exception to soapstone the other minerals have remained unexplored.


....I want to write on a mineral which has been concealed from media for decades and relates to thermonuclear.

A research project was carried out by Dr Zahid Ayub at Peshawar University in the mid 1970s on the subject titled "The Potential Role of Nuclear Power in Pakistan and Prospects of Selecting a Suitable Site for a Nuclear Power Plant in NWFP". Chapter Five and its subsection "Uranium and Thorium Deposits” dealt with Deposits of Nuclear Materials in Kurram Agency.


The reason he selected Kurram was two folds. He belonged to the area and so could move freely at will but most importantly, Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC) had started a project called Minnupp under which handsome deposits of uranium were discovered in the Khyber region. The Minnupp project was a success, resulting in making indigenous fuel rods for the Karachi Nuclear Power Plant (KANUPP) that requires natural uranium. Since Kurram is part of the same mountain range he was hopeful to find the same there too. According to him “My preliminary physical prospecting of the region revealed unusually high radioactivity all along Spin Ghar (White Mountain) and Wacha Dara area.”

He undertook a survey and although he could not cover the entire Spin Ghar range he managed to survey the adjacent Raju Mela mountains and Wacha Dara area. In those areas he monitored high level of radioactivity which was orders of magnitude beyond what is called background activity.

In nature such deposits have little harmful effects since they are in balance with nature. It only emits what is called the background radiation which is safe. The story does not stop here. After 9/11 things have changed as the region has turned into a battle zone exposing these ores to foreign bombardments.

A typical example is visible across the Spin Ghar in Tora Bora region in Afghanistan. Those mountains are known for having enormous amount of radioactive ore. When US carried out deep carpet bombing in that area, they disturbed the ore strata by generating temperatures in access of 1000C. At that temperature the chemical reactions take place and the ore becomes poisonous.

A Canadian group called "Uranium Medical Research Centre, http://www.umrc.net/collected data in the Nangarhar province and found higher doses of radioactivity amongst the population. This was the first study of its kind. According to Dr. Asaf Durakovic of the study group, “the purpose of the study was to determine the concentrations and precise isotopic compositions of four uranium isotopes (234U, 235U, 236U, and 238U) in urine specimens from the civilian population of Afghanistan after [NATO's invasion of Afghanistan].

Eight male civilians from Nangarhar-Jalalabad region who presented with symptoms of fatigue, fever, musculo-skeletal and neurological alterations, headaches, and respiratory impairment after inhalation of dust during bombing raids in June 2002 had samples collected under controlled conditions and analysed.

The mean concentration of uranium in eight samples was found to be considerably greater than what is regarded as a reference range.

Our results demonstrate that contamination in Afghanistan with a source consistent with natural uranium has resulted in total uranium concentrations up to 100 times higher than normal range for various geographic and environmental areas throughout the world.”

Many scientists including Dr. Ayub believe that population in Kurram Agency is equally exposed to this radiation. The reason they give is that the Tora Bora bombing spilled nuclear dust on this side of Spin Ghar too.


They call it the 'Uranium Tailing' effect. All it means is that when uranium is extracted from the ground, the rock is dug up and crushed leaving behind finely pulverized material like flour.

A century ago, Marie Curie observed that 85 percent of the radioactivity in the ore remains behind in the crushed rock. According to nuclear scientists the effective half-life of such radioactivity is 80,000 years; meaning that in 80,000 years there will be half as much radioactivity in these tailings. Here comes the crunch.

As the tailings are left on the ground after crushing of rocks as seen in Tora Bora bombing, they are blown by the wind and are washed away by the rain into the water systems helping in its spread. In addition these tailings continually generate radon gas which being eight times heavier than air, stays close to the ground.

A light breeze can take it away for one thousand miles in any direction. During its spread, it deposits on the vegetation as the radioactive by-products including polonium. To make the situation worse, the by-products which are also called the radon daughters are deposited in animals, fish and plants. The ill effects of such a spread are immense and enumerable.

Kurram Agency is a stone-throw away from Tora Bora.

When the deep penetration bombs in tens of thousands of tons came pouring down those mountains it created a burning mine-like scenario. This has been a major concern for those who know about the ill effects of turning natural uranium into radioactive dust and its fall out on this side of Spin Ghar in Kurram Agency.....there is no doubt that such radioactivity is a slow killer and most of the people in Kurrram Agency do not have access to medical facilities and they will die unnoticed from radioactive poisoning.


Dr Ghayur Ayub

[Toramana]

Although, I don't fully agree with what is being said in the following video with regard to Islam, but there is no doubt of the Arab Imperialism in later the later so-called Islamic conquest of the non-Muslim and Mulslim lands.

YouTube - 39 Arab & Islamic Imperialism - Part 39

[ScimitarXEdge]

wow Still no response from The Secularists


It's amazing they can come to the call of an immoral person being "barbarically" punished for a crime they chose to do= and could have avoided punishment for by not doing the crime

But feel no concern for Pashtoons who they claim to be representing but are undergoing Radioactive Genocide.

I wonder what Secularists suggest will be the way they deal with this MODERNLY introduced "advanced" Health problem which will affect Pashtoons for generations thanks to their friends in NATO ?

[randolph85]

lol @ posting vids made by that anti islamic site.

thats reaching.

[Catya Sher]

Re Scimitar

Right! It's not as though these people are always innocent.
The Ashtiani Iranian woman whose case has been turned into a media cause celebre freely admitted her GUILT.
Her SON admitted his mother's guilt.
No one denies that she was guilty.

So why don't Western "humanists" start working on a truly momentous project instead:
drawing world attention to the COLLECTIVE dreadful poisoning - good term, Radioactive Genocide.

It's about time we all turned the tables on these tiresome complainers, and pushed them back to being on the defensive for a change.

The best toramana could muster was a stale video reiterating his obsession with "Arabic Imperialism".

Otherwise their tongues are tied --- in shame whether they admit or not!

Yes Randolph: it's appalling how many people have fallen victim to secularists in various guises: Communists, leftists, French Revolutionists, etc...!

[ScimitarXEdge]

Although, I don't fully agree with what is being said in the following video with regard to Islam, but there is no doubt of the Arab Imperialism in later the later so-called Islamic conquest of the non-Muslim and Mulslim lands.

YouTube - 39 Arab & Islamic Imperialism - Part 39[/URL]

Oh yeah an Anti Islam web channel, very UNBIASED presentation of events there; not to mention NO annotations or FOOT NOTES of where they are getting their references.

JUst occasional mentions of Tabari with no page or chapter numbers to reference. Perfect Cover.


Are you really THIS NAIVE Toramana???

[ScimitarXEdge]

Notice how Toramana COMPLETELY Ignored the Depleted Uranium issue even though it's Genocide on Pashtoons to change this into an issue of Arab Imperialism.


IS THIS the type of Person you want to Speak on Behalf of PASHTOONS????

[graveyardofempires]

this is his video:





He's actually involved in helping Afghans; instead of these hypocrites who talk about going to help Afghans but all they do is sit on Pashtunforums to post gadawada khabari

i posted this documentary and it looked like no one watched

[unknownprince]

Notice how Toramana COMPLETELY Ignored the Depleted Uranium issue even though it's Genocide on Pashtoons to change this into an issue of Arab Imperialism.


IS THIS the type of Person you want to Speak on Behalf of PASHTOONS????

He has an agenda along with Maseed. They wish to one day use their left hand to eat, and their right hand to wash

This is their dream. This is what I found to be alarming. No one seems to protest the use of depleted uranium in the bombing of Afghanistan. This is a war crime.


The world is silent now. We must learn to think and treat those who have ill intentions for us with no respect.

They do not care about what is happening because they have a different agenda all together.

[ScimitarXEdge]

He has an agenda along with Maseed. They wish to one day use their left hand to eat, and their right hand to wash

This is their dream. This is what I found to be alarming. No one seems to protest the use of depleted uranium in the bombing of Afghanistan. This is a war crime.


The world is silent now. We must learn to think and treat those who have ill intentions for us with no respect.

They do not care about what is happening because they have a different agenda all together.

Of course not if these low lives were really concerned about Pashtoons they'd be the FIRST to protest this stuff. But yet as you see they're nowhere to be found but are constantly in other threads trying to divert focus onto some Imaginary Angrez Created hallucination of Arab Imperialism.

[randolph85]

Notice how Toramana COMPLETELY Ignored the Depleted Uranium issue even though it's Genocide on Pashtoons to change this into an issue of Arab Imperialism.


IS THIS the type of Person you want to Speak on Behalf of PASHTOONS????

reminds me of mustached afghan communists like najibullah who would curse the arabs and pakis for interference in the country while conveniently ignoring the 150,000 russians in the country that killed 1 million plus afghans.

[ScimitarXEdge]

Absolutely;


They were interfering with Soviet Genocidal Campaign and not to mention KHaD killing 100,000 + people in their torture chambers in 1979 alone.