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    Apostasy From Islam: The Abhorrent Sin

    Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the worlds. May Allah raise the rank of our master Muhammad and his Al and Companions and protect his nation from that which he fears for it. Thereafter:

    ( إنّ الدّينَ عند الله الإسلام )

    Islam is the only religion Allah accepts from His slaves and the only religion He ordered His slaves to follow. The one who performs the greatest right of Allah on the slave by worshipping Allah alone, not taking any partners to Him, and believing in the message of the Prophet Muhammad, will be granted everlasting bounties in Paradise. He who takes for himself a religion other than Islam and dies on that status will be a loser on the Day of Judgment and his eternal abode is Hellfire, where the torture does not cease nor decrease. Allah does not forgive the one who dies non-Muslim, nor will any of his good deeds done in this lifetime be accepted from him. Surat Muhammad, Ayah 34:



    إِنَّ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَصَدُّوا عَنْ سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ ثُمَّ مَاتُوا وَهُمْ كُفَّارٌ فَلَنْ يَغْفِرَ اللَّهُ لَهُمْ


    means: [Those who blasphemed and block away from the ways of Allah and die as blasphemers, Allah shall not forgive them. Surat an Nisa', Ayah 48:


    إِنَّ اللَّهَ لا يَغْفِرُ أَنْ يُشْرَكَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرُ مَا دُونَ ذَلِكَ لِمَنْ يَشَاءُ


    means: [Allah does not forgive that one associates partners with Him, and He forgives whatever is less than that for whomever He willed.] Knowing everlasting enjoyments await the Muslim in Paradise and everlasting torture in Hellfire awaits the one who dies a non-Muslim should make every Muslim anxiously prioritize holding tight to his Religion. The one who is desirous of having his ending a good one will do his utmost to comply with all what is obligatory upon him and avoid what is forbidden, and above all, will endeavor to avoid anything which will invalidate, interrupt, and terminate his Islam--namely apostasy. Of greater priority is warning the Muslims against what would take them out of Islam and lead them to be one of the eternal inhabitants of Hellfire over other issues in the Religion with less drastic consequences. For this reason, the scholars of Islam included chapters on apostasy in their books to elucidate what causes a person to commit apostasy and the judgments concerning him, in an effort to warn the people from committing any of it. The one who does not know evil is more likely to fall in it, and the one who learns the chapter of apostasy would have his eyes open and his heart guarded to avoid committing this grievous sin.Imam an-Nawawiyy defined apostasy as interrupting Islam by an intention or by a blasphemous doing or by a blasphemous saying--whether or not it was said mockingly, out of stubbornness, or out of conviction. He said apostasy is the most abhorrent type of blasphemy. For one to have been Muslim, then to apostate from Islam is the most vulgar of sins. It is a heinous crime and its committer deserves the everlasting torture of Hellfire should he die without repenting from it.Scholars of the four schools (madhahib) classified apostasy into three (3) categories: beliefs in the heart, actions committed by certain parts of the body, and sayings with the tongue. Ar-Ramliyy, from the school of Imam ^Ash-Shafi^iyy, classified apostasy into these three categories and gave examples of each in his book, Explanation of Minhaj, as did Imam an-Nawawiyy in his book, Rawdat at-Talibin. Qadi ^Iyad and Imam Muhammad ^Ulaysh from the Malikiyy school gave examples of these three (3) types of apostasy. Likewise did Imam Ibnu ^Abidin and Badr arRashid from the Hanifyyy school and Imam alBuhutiyy from the Hanbaliyy school. Ibn asSubkiyy said in his book At-Tabaqat : " Imam Al-Ash^ariyy , his students and all Muslims do not disagree upon that he who says a blasphemous word or he who does a blasphemous doing is a blasphemer ( kafir). He is not a believer in Allah, and he shall remain in Hellfire forever, even if he knew the truth in his heart. This is a case of scholarly consensus; not even two Muslims would disagree on that matter.The Muhadith, Hafidh, Faqih and Linguist Murtada Az-Zabidiyy said: " the scholars from the four schools (madhhab) authored in exposing the types of apostasy."The scholar's classification of apostasy into these three categories facilitates one's learning and understanding of the subject--thereby making it easier to avoid falling into it. Classification as such can be easily understood from different ayat in the Qur'an. In Surat al-Hujurat, Ayah 15, Allah said:


    إِنَّمَا الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ ثُمَّ لَمْ يَرْتَابُوا


    which means: [The believers are those who believe in Allah and His Messenger, and they do not doubt in that belief.] This ayah reflects that category of apostasy pertaining to beliefs in the heart. In Surat Fussilat, Ayah 37, Allah said:


    لا تَسْجُدُوا لِلشَّمْسِ وَلا لِلْقَمَرِ وَاسْجُدُوا لِلَّهِ الَّذِى خَلَقَهُنَّ


    which means: do not prostrate for the sun or the moon, rather prostrate for Allah Who created the sun and the moon.] This ayah reflects that category of apostasy pertaining to actions committed by different parts of the body. In Surat at-Tawbah,Ayah 74, Allah said:


    يَحْلِفُونَ بِاللَّهِ مَا قَالُوا وَلَقَدْ قَالُوا كَلِمَةَ الْكُفْرِ وَكَفَرُوا بَعْدَ إِسْلامِهِمْ


    which means: [They swear by Allah that they did not utter, and they have said the word of blasphemy and blasphemed after having been Muslims.] This ayah reflects that category of apostasy pertaining to sayings.Each one of these three categories of apostasy is divided into many subdivisions, and the scholars gave many examples of each.An example of the first category of apostasy--beliefs in the heart--is for one to have doubt in the existence of Allah or doubt in the message of Prophet Muhammad. Also blasphemous is to doubt in the message of any of the messengers or prophets of Allah known to be a messenger or a prophet by the layman and the scholar alike, such as Adam, Ibrahim, ^Isa, or Musa. Doubting in the revelation of the Qur'an to Sayyidina Muhammad is blasphemy, as is doubting about matters such as the Day of Judgment, the existence of Paradise and Hell, or other such matters upon which there has been scholarly consensus, such as Reward and Punishment. Doubting in matters which are not commonly known among the Muslims--layman and scholar alike--like the existence of the Basin (Hawd) that the believers will drink from prior to entering Paradise, is not blasphemy except if one was stubborn about it in that he knew this matter is part of the Religion and still denies it.Included in the category of apostasy pertaining to beliefs in the heart is to believe anything other than Allah exists without a beginning. This was the belief of the Greek philosophers, and following in their footsteps, Ibn Taymiyyah, who said the kind of the world exists without a beginning. Only Allah exists without a beginning and His attributes are eternal and everlasting and do not change. Everything else is a creation of Allah and has a beginning to its existence. Qadi ^Iyad, alMutawaliyy, and Ibn Hajar al^Asqalaniyy, and others established the scholarly consensus (ijma^) on the blasphemy of he who believes the world exists without a beginning.Renouncing any of the attributes of Allah, known by ijma^ He is attributed with--such as knowing about everything is blasphemy. Also blasphemous is he who renounces that Allah is attributed with Power, Will, Knowledge, Hearing, Sight, or Speech (Kalam). Renouncing any of these attributes of Allah is blasphemous because the mind alone is sufficient in knowing that Allah must be attributed with these attributes, i.e., these attributes are a condition for the status of Godhood and as such, one is not excused by ignorance. Ibn alJawziyy said: "There is consensus on the blasphemy of he who negates Allah has power over everything." He who believes that Allah resembles any of his creations in His Self, Attributes, or Doings has blasphemed. The one who believes Allah is a body or an illumination, or believes Allah exists 'above' in the heavens, or that He sits on the throne is a blasphemer. All these are attributes of the creation and are non-befitting to attribute to the Creator. If Allah was attributed with such attributes, He would have similars from among His creations, and Allah said in the Qur'an:


    لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَىْءٌ


    which means: [Nothing is like him.] If Allah was a body, He would be susceptible to the things all bodies are susceptible to like change, divisibility, and annihilation--all indications of shortage or weakness and nonbefitting to attribute to Allah.Also is blasphemous he who renders lawful what is commonly known among the Muslims to be unlawful (such as adultery, fornication, stealing, or drinking alcohol,) or renders unlawful, matters commonly known among the Muslims to be lawful, (such as selling and marriage)--conditional in all this is the person is aware of the judgments of these matters in the Religion. Belying the Prophet, blemishing his attributes, or believing in the possibility of prophethood of someone after our Prophet Muhammad ( as the Qadiyany's claim ) is blasphemy.

    The second category of apostasy, i.e., actions committed by different parts of the body, includes prostrating to an idol, or prostrating to the sun or the moon, or prostrating to any other creation with the purpose of worshipping it. Another example of apostasy of actions is knowingly throwing the Book of the Qur'an in the garbage, and likewise any papers containing Islamic information, as said by Ruyyaniyy and others, because this action displays mockery for the Religion. It is blasphemy to throw a paper on which is written a name of Allah, provided the thrower knows it is a name of Allah and is conscious of the fact when he threw the paper.The third category of apostasy is that of sayings and the scholars said this category contains the most numerous cases.

    The Prophet said: <<Most of the sins of the sons of Adam are from his tongue.>> Among these are great sins (kaba'ir) and blasphemy. In this age it has become common that people are so negligent and careless with their words to an extent some would utter words which turn them out of Islam, yet they do not deem such words sinful despite them being blasphemous. This complies with the saying of the Prophet, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, related by at-Tirmidhiyy: <<A person may utter a word he thinks is harmless, which results in his falling the depth of 70 years into Hellfire.>>

    The depth of 70 years falling is the bottom of Hellfire, and it is a place that only the blasphemers will reach. This hadith is explicit in showing uttering a word of blasphemy renders a person a non-Muslim--even if he does not deem that word harmful or a sin as such.This hadith also shows that it is not a condition for committing blasphemy that the blasphemous saying be combined with either the belief in that saying or an action. The Prophet did not say: 'A person might utter a word and believe in it...' Nor did he say: 'A person might utter a word and act in blasphemy...' Nor did he say: 'A person might utter a word in seriousness...' Rather, he said: 'A person might utter a word he thinks harmless...'

    A similar hadith related by al-Bukhariyy and Muslim is proof that it is not even conditional that one must know the judgment of the uttered blasphemous word for him to have committed blasphemy.Uttering blasphemous words out of anger does not excuse a person from committing blasphemy. Imam anNawawiyy said: "If a man was angry with his child or slave and hit him severely, then another person asked him, 'How can you do this? Aren't you a Muslim?' and to that his deliberate answer--though angry--was, 'No,' he blasphemed." This was said by Hanafiyy scholars as well as others. In his hadith, the Prophet warned us against anger. His reply to a man who came to him asking for advice was, <<Don't get angry.>> The Prophet warned us against anger because anger is not an excuse. Not controlling it can lead a person to various sins, including blasphemy.The scholars mentioned that the third category of apostasy, apostasy of sayings, is like the sea that has no shoreline--meaning the examples could go on and on, and they cited many examples in their books--again, a warning to people not to speak words similar to them. For example, to curse Allah is blasphemy. He who curses Allah is not a Muslim.

    It is blasphemy to curse one of the Prophets or one of the Angels, as stated by Qadi ^Iyad To declare a Muslim a kafir without a valid reason causes the person to become a non-Muslim, as was mentioned by Mutawalli and al-Ghazaliyy. At-Tahawiyy said that to attribute to Allah any attribute of the creation--like age or time, body or place, organs or instruments, colors or shapes; or to say Allah has a partner or a child--all are blasphemous sayings. Also, intending to blaspheme in the future contingent upon the happening of a certain incident makes the person a blasphemer immediately.Let the person take heed of the advice and warnings of the Prophet. Let him be extremely cautious not to let his tongue drive him to a destructive situation. As mentioned by Imam alGhazaliyy, the tongue has such a small size but the crime (sin) it could commit could be so great. Other scholars said the tongue is like a fierce beast which will attack you if you do not tie it up.

    Brother Muslim, learn well this subject of apostasy in an effort to avoid committing any of it. It is an obligation on every Muslim to protect his faith against whatever invalidates, interrupts and terminates it. Then, if apostasy occurred from one, it is an obligation on him to immediately return to Islam by leaving out what caused him to apostate and uttering with the Testification of Faith (two shahadas) with the intention of clearing himself of apostasy. Left on him is the obligation to regret having committed apostasy and to intend not to go back to something similar in the future.Apostasy is not an easy issue, and not one to be taken lightly. Many judgments are incurred on the one who apostates from Islam. Some examples are: the apostate's fasting and Dry Purification (Tayammum) are invalid; it is not permissible to eat the meat he slaughters; his wealth not inherited, nor does he inherit; his marriage contract to a Muslim or non-Muslim is not valid. Moreover, the apostate loses all the reward of all the good deeds done prior to his committing apostasy, though all his sins remain. These sins are not erased for him should he go back to Islam, but rather require a separate repentance. Who among the people can afford to have all his good deeds done and rewards earned erased by apostasy, to stand on the Day of Judgment with only his sins to be weighed?Brother Muslim. Learn well this subject of apostasy. It is the most abhorrent of sins.

    Do not be fooled by those who claim contrary to what the scholars of Islam classified as apostasy. Do not be led astray to uttering blasphemous words out of ignorance, anger, or carelessness. Do not believe doing so is not blasphemy if not accompanied by liking or believing the meaning of those uttered blasphemous words. Do not believe those who follow their opinions and contradict the rules of the Religion and say: "Who are you to judge others as blasphemous?" while they, themselves, are ignorant of the rules of the Religion on this vital subject, let alone the rules of the tenets of belief (^Aqidah), ablution (Wudu'), Prayer (Salah), and other.

    Acquire the personal obligatory knowledge that leads to success and acceptance of Allah and takes away from the tortures of the Hereafter. Equip yourself with the hadith of the Prophet, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, narrated by Ibn Majah: <<If you learn a verse of the Book of Allah, it is more rewardable for you than praying one hundred (100) raka^s (of the supererogatory prayers); and if you go and learn a Chapter of Knowledge it is more rewardable for you than praying one thousand (1,000) raka^s (of the supererogatory prayers).>>Take your knowledge from trustworthy, God-fearing, knowledgeable teachers. Implement the advice of Ibn Sirin when he said: "Look thoroughly into whom you take your knowledge from, for this knowledge is that of the Religion." Those must know it is obligatory upon us to order with what is lawful and forbid what is unlawful. If a person commits blasphemy what do we say about him? Do we say he is a believer? Certainly not! Should we leave such a person drowning in that state of blasphemy or should we reach out for him and rescue him by advising him to leave the apostasy and return to Islam? If the person is receptive, we address him immediately and directly so that we would not be included in the hadith of the Prophet, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, <<If you see my nation fear to tell the unjust person he is unjust, know that the support of Allah is withdrawn from them.:>> As reported in the Qur'an, blasphemy is the greatest of injustice, may Allah protect us from it.

    Praise be to Allah.

  • #2
    The Types of Blasphemy and Blasphemers
    Allah, ta^ala, said in the Qur’an:

    Innal-ladhina kafaru wa saddu ^an sabilillahi thumma matu wa hum kuffarun falay-yaghfirallahu lahum.

    Ayah 34 of Surah Muhammad means: {Those who blaspheme and prevent others from embracing Islam, then die as blasphemers, will not be forgiven by Allah.}

    Blasphemy is the opposite of belief, just as darkness is the opposite of light. It is of three types: likening God to the creation (tashbih), contradicting (takdhib), and denying (ta^til).

    Tashbih: Likening Allah to His creation. An example is to say or believe that Allah has legs.

    Takdhib: Contradicting the honorable Qu’ran or what was undoubtedly related from the Prophet and known by every Muslim scholar, like negating the resurrection of the bodies and souls, or negating the obligation of prayer, fasting, or Zakah.

    Ta^til: Negating or denying the existence of Allah. This type is the most blasphemous. Likewise is denying any of Allah’s Thirteen Attributes.

    Blasphemers are of two types. One is the original blasphemer. The other one is the apostate (murtadd).

    The original blasphemer is the one who was born to two blasphemous parents and reached pubescence on a blasphemous belief.

    The apostate (murtadd) is the person who was Muslim, then committed one of the types of blasphemy (riddah).

    Allah, ta^ala, said in the Qur’an:

    Qul abillahi wa ayatihi wa rasulihi kuntum tastahzi’un. La ta^tadhiru qad kafartum ba^da imanikum.

    Ayahs 65-66 of Suratut-Tawbah mean: {O Muhammad, say: Do you mock Allah, His verses, and His Messenger? Do not offer excuses. Now you are judged as blasphemers, after you were judged as Muslims.}

    Apostasy (Riddah) is leaving Islam. It is the most abhorrent type of blasphemy. Hence, it is obligatory on every Muslim to preserve his Islam and protect it from apostasy (riddah), which invalidates his Islam. May Allah protect us from it.

    The categories of blasphemy: The scholars classified blasphemy into three categories: blasphemy of belief, blasphemy of action, and blasphemy of saying.

    Each category of these categories is divided into many subdivisions:

    1- Examples of the blasphemy of belief include:

    Denying the existence of Allah.
    Believing that Allah does not have the Power to do something.
    Believing Allah is ignorant.
    Believing that Allah is a body, light, or a soul.
    Believing that drinking alcohol or stealing is permissible.
    Believing that Allah did not obligate the five prayers, fasting the month of Ramadan, paying Zakah, or making Hajj.
    2- Examples of the blasphemy of action include:

    · To throw the Qur’an or other Islamic papers purposely in the trash.

    · To prostrate to an idol, or the sun, or to any other creation with the intention of worshipping it.

    · To write ayahs of the Qur’an in urine.

    3- Examples of the blasphemy of saying include:

    · Cursing Allah, His prophets, angels, Islam, or the Qur’an.

    · Mocking the prayer or fasting.

    The Messenger of Allah, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, said:

    Innal-^abda layatakallamu bil-kalimati la yara biha ba’say yahwi biha finnari sab^ina kharifa.

    Which means: “A slave may utter a word that he deems harmless that may result in his falling the depth of seventy years into Hellfire.” (Related by at-Tirmidhiyy.)

    Falling the distance of seventy years means falling to the deepest bottom of Hellfire, which is reserved for the blasphemers. This hadith is a proof that it is not a condition for falling into blasphemy that one knows the judgment, or feels happy with, or believes in the uttered words.

    The Messenger of Allah, sallallahu ^alayhi wa sallam, said:

    Aktharu khataya bni Adama mil-lisanih.

    Which means: “Most of one's sins are from one’s tongue.” (Related by at-Tabaraniyy.)

    The Rule: Any belief, action, or saying which belittles Allah, His Books, His Messengers, His Angels, His Rites, the well-known practices of His Religion, His Rules, His Promise, or His Threat is blasphemy. So, one must use caution with one’s utmost effort to avoid blasphemy at all times.

    Benefit: The scholars said: Denying what is commonly known among the Muslims to be a part of the Religion is blasphemy. For something to be commonly known to be part of the Religion means that it is a matter that is known by all Muslims, both the laypeople and the scholars alike. In other words, it is not something known only by scholars. This is like the obligation of the five prayers, fasting Ramadan, the permissibility of buying and selling, and the unlawfulness of drinking alcohol and stealing.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by albanian1912 View Post
      .......................
      Didn't the Turks sodomize enough Albanians for Islamic glory for them to forget it once and for all, or do you need some present day action, hence the interest in Pashtoon and taliban.

      Brother, your forefathers sacrificed a lot to sever the chains, dont look for the same yoke again.

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      • #4
        whts wrong with u man????are u suffering from illness???tell me whts wrong with u if i can cure u i do surely,i put Jewish nuclear bombe on ur ass to get rid of world and may u live alone with ur stupidness in other planet...

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        • #5
          Albanians forced the UN and NATO to give them their state by fighting the Serbs who could only kill innocent people

          The Albanians are a a great people and you should not mock them.

          No one cares that some of you are atheist, so please refrain from attacking a Muslim.

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          • #6
            And technically speaking, Albanians have an Islamic state.

            On paper it is not, but in reality it is an Islamic state. The justice system is ruled by Sharia. Thats the requirement.

            Maybe Afghanistan can follow the same system.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by unknownprince View Post
              And technically speaking, Albanians have an Islamic state.

              On paper it is not, but in reality it is an Islamic state. The justice system is ruled by Sharia. Thats the requirement.

              Maybe Afghanistan can follow the same system.
              LOL,

              I actually know a lot of albanians, been to albanian weddings both of kosovars and the real albanians.
              I love the fact that Islam has been washed clean from a large part of the culture. there has been some resurgence thanks to petro dollars and the under valued Albanian currency, but that is less than 5% in mainland and a little more in kosova. The muslims and the christens live in harmony and have intermarried and religion is not really discussed as a central topic of discussion.

              Some may be associated to saudi funds and like the albanian1912 giving the impression that albania has joined the salafi ranks, but that is far far from the truth.

              Albania is more westernized than Istanbul. I hope they join the European union and progress further and develop industry and commerce that got shattered in the communist experiment.

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              • #8
                In London, Canada, the Albanian Muslims closed down a mosque and converted it into a recreation center....When some Beduine and Desi Muslims tried to interfere and save the mosque, the Albanians expelled them and asked them never to involve in their affairs...

                I have met many Albanians and they hate to identify themselves with Muslims.
                Last edited by Toramana; 12-13-2010, 01:17 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Toramana View Post
                  In London, Canada, the Albanian Muslims closed down a mosque and converted it into a recreation center....When some Beduine and Desi Muslims tried to interfere and save the mosque, the Albanians told them in plain terms they are were expelled and asked never to involve in their affairs...

                  I have met many Albanians and they hate to identify themselves with Muslims.
                  thats because you love the smell of apostate fart in your face 24/7

                  you emulate everything they do, so likewise you are drawn to the apostate Albanians.

                  Majority of Albanians are fervent Muslims. Use common sense, they died fighting the filthy Serbs for their state, and won a great victory in which the whole world was forced to recognize Kosovo!!!

                  Stop changing things to suit your own narrow agenda.

                  Go and learn the Quran, and stop wasting your time spreading hate

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                  • #10
                    apostates like bogham and mi6 and toramana haven't heard of Sheikh Al-Albani, rahimahuallah, one of the great sheikhs of the last century.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Alchemist View Post
                      apostates like bogham and mi6 and toramana haven't heard of Sheikh Al-Albani, rahimahuallah, one of the great sheikhs of the last century.
                      My Islamofascist friend, don't use religion as a oppressive tool to silence the voices of others.
                      Last edited by Toramana; 12-13-2010, 01:36 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Alchemist, I wanted to mention yesterday that you wrote a great post about the connection between feminism and perhaps Marxism on the thread which got closed before I could mention that insightful comment.
                        Last edited by Catya Sher; 12-13-2010, 01:34 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
                          Alchemist, I wanted to mention yesterday that you have a GREAT post about the connection between feminism and perhaps Marxism on the thread which sadly got closed.

                          .

                          9:32 Fain would they extinguish Allah's light with their mouths, but Allah will not allow but that His light should be perfected, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).


                          their tactics can be contrasted against those used by the kufar of mecca and hypocrites of medina
                          Last edited by Alchemist; 12-13-2010, 01:42 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Yes!
                            That's really what it is: these SOULS detest the Light of Allah [swt] and THAT'S WHY they won't shut up when we protest.

                            They keep getting worse and worse, such is their hatred for Allah, it's so deep in their souls that they may not even be remotely conscious of where it came from.

                            That's what they need to look at, rather than keep attacking our side.

                            About the Munafiqeen, and Kafirs, can you explain the analogy to these types here?
                            I know what you mean, but not in detail.

                            Thanks.
                            Whenever you can manage or have time - no hurry.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
                              Yes!
                              That's really what it is: these SOULS detest the Light of Allah [swt] and THAT'S WHY they won't shut up when we protest.

                              They keep getting worse and worse, such is their hatred for Allah, it's so deep in their souls that they may not even be remotely conscious of where it came from.

                              That's what they need to look at, rather than keep attacking our side.

                              About the Munafiqeen, and Kafirs, can you explain the analogy to these types here?
                              I know what you mean, but not in detail.

                              Thanks.
                              Whenever you can manage or have time - no hurry.
                              for example...

                              When the people use to come to Mecca for pilgramage the kufar of mecca would give cotton to the people and told them to stick it in their ear before they go to ka'aba because someone over there was telling things that should not be heard by them.

                              MI6 is going around trying to convince everyone that I am Pakistani so I should be ignored because pakistanis are mortal enemies of pashtuns. Mostly you will see them trying to discredit the messenger instead of the message - adhominem because slandering is easier than engaging in meaningful debate.

                              99% of Afghans/pashtuns are muslims so in reality these apostates are the minority. In order for them to become successful they try to reverse morals so that their weakness is deemed courage and our strength be our weakness. The taliban are bad because they study Islam but they are good because they have abandoned Islam. 99% of Pashtuns want Sharia but the apostates want us to believe that sharia is oppressive and unjust and that secularism is the answer. Whenever Muhammed peace be upon used to preach of Islam the kufar would come at the same gathering and try to disperse the people. Some like Nadi bin Harith would go where the Prophet,peace be upon him, was and start narrating stories of Alexendar or other legends so that people would be distracted. Likewise these apostates go about everywhere and talk nonsense about Islam where ever anyone says the truth about islam...in each and every thread. And they slander as usual ....just a while ago one of them called me a fascist. And i never said anything like that about them.

                              I ll make notes as I go along...

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