Roshina

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Na, it's okay. But I'm just enjoying it too much to let them stop, so I don't want anyone else to stop them, either. I like it this way.

About why MWMN must be doing it, I thought about that when he first noted that he and I had differences, and, perhaps this is a mere assumption that MAY be far from truth (but I'm over 100% sure it's true), but here's what I think:

By questioning me and my identity and my views constantly, he is repelling attention from his own self and his own branch of Islam (which he has himself labeled Ahmadi Islam), and passing it over to me. This is a rather smart move, and he must be given credit for it, for, by doing this, he is (or THINKS he is) gaining the support of a fickle group of people.... But the moment these people forget about me and my views, they're going to start attacking MWMN. And, of course, I don't want that to happen, so I prefer that the spotlight remain on me! It feels beautiful

The above post clearly shows that you are against Muslims and Islam.

You truly are pathetic.

I have always defended my beliefs when the call has come. I have never shied away. Unlike you who will side with anyone but Muslims, as you have just demonstrated, and when your faith is questioned you throw logical fallacies around. For you to use that as tool to say that I am trying to hide under the cover is very dishonest and very hypocritical. I believe in the Quran, I believe in Allah, I am believe that the Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) is Khatamun Nabiyyeen, and that is why I am standing side-by-side with my Muslim brothers and sisters. That is why despite everything Sangar has said or done to me, I still love him and I still consider him part of my family. This is the miracle of Islam.

I am standing side by side with my fellows Muslims. They all know that I am an Ahmadi. And as my brother Wrayun said, that my disadvantage, in defending Islam, is my beliefs.

So, stop attacking Muslims with these unsound truths and start fighting along our sides.

It is amazing how your ear is an Atheist and your case is being accepted and heard by him. Truly sad to see you in action.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Ha Roshina, very intelligent and smart...MSHALLAH...Very likely reason of his focuss on you...hahahha

I thanked you above, because that is what I am saying about her. See how you both side with each other?

[Toramana]

The above post clearly shows that you are against Muslims and Islam.

You truly are pathetic.

I have always defended my beliefs when the call has come. I have never shied away. Unlike you who will side with anyone but Muslims, as you have just demonstrated, and when your faith is questioned you throw logical fallacies around. For you to use that as tool to say that I am trying to hide under the cover is very dishonest and very hypocritical. I believe in the Quran, I believe in Allah, I am believe that the Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) is Khatamun Nabiyyeen, and that is why I am standing side-by-side with my Muslim brothers and sisters. That is why despite everything Sangar has said or done to me, I still love him and I still consider him part of my family. This is the miracle of Islam.

I am standing side by side with my fellows Muslims. They all know that I am an Ahmadi. And as my brother Wrayun said, that my disadvantage, in defending Islam, is my beliefs.

So, stop attacking Muslims with these unsound truths and start fighting along our sides.

It is amazing how your ear is an Atheist and your case is being accepted and heard by him. Truly sad to see you in action.

Go, point out logical fallacies in my posts if you can. I will answer you.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

That was not directed at you. But the fact that you agreed with her, shows that as well.

Are you saying that when the weak defend their beliefs it shows that they are trying to hide the fact that they are weak? This is a logical fallacy.

I am a Muslim, if someone like you, or your fellow compatriot Roshina, tries to attack Islam I will stand in your face. Call it what you want.

[Toramana]

That was not directed at you. But the fact that you agreed with her, shows that as well.

Are you saying that when the weak defend their beliefs it shows that they are trying to hide the fact that they are weak? This is a logical fallacy.

I am a Muslim, if someone like you, or your fellow compatriot Roshina, tries to attack Islam I will stand in your face. Call it what you want.

Be more explicit...please.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

How much more explicit would you like me to be?

Side note:

I am impressed that it was only a matter of time before my point about Roshina materialized. She is happy that an Atheist is defending her at the expense of a Muslim. Despite whatever Sangar and I went through, I never turned my back on him. Despite what some Muslims have called me on this website, I have never turned my back on Islam. Despite what my beliefs are with other Muslims here, I know that they feel that I am sincere with my beliefs. The fact that Roshina is using my beliefs to attack me shows her true colours. If she can't feel the sincerity of a Muslim, and needs an Atheist to defend her, speaks volumes.

Point made. Case Closed.

[unknownprince]

WHile i have issues with Ahmadis, I think apostates are a laugh.

The fact that apostates would try to attack MWMN because he is Ahmadi is hugley entertaining I have to say.

APostates, you all know that within your communities, you are the biggest jokes? You do know that, right?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Roshina, the fact that you don't stand up for Islam speaks volumes. You are so loud and outspoken, yet you have yet to step in the rink against Atheists and the enemies of Islam. Forget about the past, let us see you in action now. Let us judge with the present. There are so many threads going on now, why are you silent?

As far the rest of your post, we can only judge you based on these fora. So, where are you hiding here?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

WHile i have issues with Ahmadis, I think apostates are a laugh.

The fact that apostates would try to attack MWMN because he is Ahmadi is hugley entertaining I have to say.

APostates, you all know that within your communities, you are the biggest jokes? You do know that, right?

And the fact that Roshina uses that as leverage against me with the apostates is an even more call for concern and unbelievable.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

[2:11] And when it is said to them: ‘Create not disorder on the earth,’ they say: ‘We are only promoters of peace.’
[2:12] Beware! it is surely they who create disorder, but they do not perceive it.
[2:13] And when it is said to them, ‘Believe as other people have believed,’ they say: ‘Shall we believe as the foolish have believed?’ Beware! it is surely they that are foolish, but they do not know.
[2:14] And when they meet those who believe, they say: ‘We believe;’ but when they are alone with their ringleaders, they say: ‘We are certainly with you; we are only mocking.’
[2:15] Allah will punish their mockery and will let them continue in their transgression, wandering blindly.
[2:16] These are they who have taken error in exchange for guidance; but their traffic has brought them no gain, nor are they rightly guided.
[2:17] Their case is like the case of a person who kindled a fire, and when it lighted up all around him, Allah took away their light and left them in thick darkness; they see not.
[2:18] They are deaf, dumb and blind; so they will not return.

[2:19] Or it is like a heavy rain from the clouds, wherein is thick darkness and thunder and lightning; they put their fingers into their ears because of the thunderclaps for fear of death, and Allah encompasses the disbelievers.
[2:20] The lightning might well-nigh snatch away their sight; whenever it shines upon them, they walk therein; and when it becomes dark to them, they stand still. And if Allah willed, He could take away their hearing and their sight; surely, Allah has the power to do all that He wills.

[unknownprince]

And the fact that Roshina uses that as leverage against me with the apostates is an even more call for concern and unbelievable.

That was what I caught. I was trying to find the words to explain it.

[unknownprince]

But I love that you're SO curious about me! Why should I tell you what my specific beliefs are? Clearly, saying that I'm a Muslim does not suffice. But I don't wanna be specific and tell you what I think about every single thing out there -- why should you know? I like it this way

mmmhhh, no one cares actually, he is asking you why you have certain positions that are questionalbe. Just respond back, no need to draw it out into this huge theatrical!!

[JAMALUDEEN]

wow some serious discussion going on in here..

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

She is probably a teenager who is confused and does not have the ability to explain or defend her beliefs. Leave her alone I suppose. If she sides with non-Muslims over Muslims it's probably because she is confused.

Well said!

I really wanted to know why and is the way she is. But, I will take your advice and put this to rest.

Dera manana, wrora jaana.

[eusuphxai]

I wish we argued about Development plans of our region instead of defending cults of Religion.

I wish I could fly, but then i dont have money for a can of redbull.