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Originally posted by unknownprince
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This useless propaganda can impress no one man. Say something convincing. Also, quote sources and evidences in support of your claim. -
i have tell me where the thermite came from are you listening that left a tons of molten iron explain it,check fox news american news where the scientist explains this as i can see your in the usa so your news are better if i say british dcumentry or another german one or any other europeon one you might have a problem with it so type thermite used on 9/11 fox newsComment
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Please, write something convincing ...What you say is so bizzare and prepostrous...! Typical propaganda...without any proof or evidence...Comment
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that means you dont understands science im writing facts but you dont want to know i rest my case id rather tell some one who know's science who know's that jet fuel can only collaspe a floor or two even if it burned for 10 hours ,and the top floor would fall over not straight down over and i mean over,but thermite is the only substance that can eat and melt steel within an hour causing the building to collaspe straight down like a controlled demolition those buildings were built with best steel to with stand anything espeacially airoplane's crashing into them as they were so tall, thermite is not produced in arab countries its not produced in the 3rd world it is produced in rich countries like the u s a under very controlled labs after it melts the steel the substance left behind is molton black iron ,this is not propaganda quran talks about science , science is the only thing that can give proof and its prooved it and i say bravo to the brave western scientist including the great american scientist who took samples of molten iron and proved this i rest my case full stop..................Comment
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You ask for credible sources but then you quote WIKIPEADIA lol !!! is that your credible source? and if the staged attacked were done by the government then how are we going to get evidence from the government that they did it (which is the only source you call credible) obviously you cant. the evidence is overwhelming from expert building engineers, explosion anylists, architects (im an architect myself), also from ex secret service personel every single credible person has pointed the finger to the government including FIRST HAND victims that witnessed explosions even before the planes hit the buildings. do you know what the odds are that not one but two buildings callapse in the exact same way?? al let you research that, maybe it'l wake you up a little. and what a coinsidence youve watched ALL the videos iv posted which is hours of viewing and yet you ask for CREDIBLE evidence which is laughable as all the videos are FULL of credible evidence from reliable people..not the wikipedia refrences that you quote. also logical arguements like mobile phones cannot work above 3000feet etc.Originally posted by Toramana View Post
Here are some issues about the September 11th attacks to consider:World Trade Center Towers
- Jet fuel does not burn hot enough to melt steel.
- Footage shows explosives were placed in both towers before the attack to cause the towers to disintegrate into dust.
- The towers fell exactly into their footprint, taking the path of most resistance in about 10 seconds, the same amount of time it takes an object to fall that distance in a vacuum.
- The towers tossed massive steel beams 200 feet in each direction, too far to be explained by a gravity collapse.
- Survivors and firefighters report explosions at the BASE of the WTC towers at the same time as the planes hit it - how did Osama do this?
- Pools of molten metal were found 7 stories under the towers 6 weeks after the attack. It takes 3000+ degrees Fahrenheit to turn steel into liquid. Where did this energy come from?
- The top of the south tower began to collapse sideways, then righted itself, falling into it's footprint. This is impossible with only gravity working to collapse the tower.
- It was a 47 story, steel-framed building that disintegrated later in the day, also from explosives. It was not hit by any planes. How did Osama pull this one off?
- The 23rd floor was the Mayor’s "Emergency Command Center," a reinforced bunker which had its own air and water supply. Could this have been the command center for destroying the towers?
- How does a 65 ton Boeing 757 with a 125 foot wingspan fit through a single 16 foot hole in the side of the Pentagon leaving virtually no wreckage?
- There is no evidence of a Boeing 757, seats, wings, engines, luggage or the dead passengers at the Pentagon.
- The Pentagon security video suggests a missile explosion rather than a jet fuel explosion.
- There is a hole through 3 rings of the Pentagon, totaling 9 solid feet of steel reinforced concrete the object would have to penetrate, and experts believe this to be very unlikely.
- The planes that hit the WTC towers, from viewing the footage in slow motion, do not appear to be standard passenger jets.
- What is the explosive flash on the side of the towers just before the planes penetrate the buildings?
- With Flight 93, the reported flight of the "Lets Roll" heroes, wreckage was strewn 8 miles from the crash site when this plane was reported to be "ditched" in Pennsylvania. How is that possible?
- At least 8 of the reported 19 "hijackers" are still alive, as reported by the UK Guardian Newspaper.
- There are no Arab names on ANY of the passenger lists for the 4 hijacked flights.
- There is no video showing the "hijackers" boarding any of the planes, only fuzzy security footage from Logan Airport for a connecting flight.
- Cellular phone calls are nearly impossible in flight above 8000 feet as cell phones have low power and cell towers point downwards.
(www.question911.com)----------
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Originally posted by KarachiComment
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it wasnt for FUN, it was for gains, and they made GAINS from such things happening. Hitler did the same, he blew his own version of the white house up and then used it for a justification for the people he made enemies out of. does that answer your question. i have proof of the gains that america has made if you want.Originally posted by Jasmine----------
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Originally posted by KarachiComment
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EXPERTS TALK ABOUT CONTROLLED DEMOLITION
Numerous experts have stated that three World Trade Center buildings were brought down on 9/11 by controlled demolition:
A prominent physicist with 33 years of service for the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC, said that the official theory for why the Twin Towers and world trade center building 7 collapsed "does not match the available facts" and supports the theory that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition
A prominent physicist, former U.S. professor of physics from a top university, and a former principal investigator for the U.S. Department of Energy, Division of Advanced Energy Projects, stated that the world trade centers were brought down by controlled demolition
A U.S. physics professor who teaches at several universities believes that the World Trade Centers were brought down by controlled demolition
A professor emeritus of physics and former division chairman from a small community college said "My wife and I, transfixed in front of a TV as the horror of 9/11 unfolded, watched as the topmost, undamaged floors of the WTC South Tower started to gradually lean (rotate) in the direction of the damage due to impact. In an instant, the rotation stopped, and that which was rotating began to fall, as if only under the influence of gravity! The fulcrum was no longer there! I blurted out, "My god, they wired the building."
An expert on demolition said that the trade centers were brought down with explosives (and see TV interview here; both in Danish)
An architect, member of the American Institute of Architects, who has been a practicing architect for 20 years and has been responsible for the production of construction documents for numerous steel-framed and fire-protected buildings for uses in many different areas, including education, civic, rapid transit and industrial use, has disputed the claim that fire and airplane damage brought down the World Trade Centers and believes there is strong evidence of controlled demolition (see also this video, part 2 here, and part 3 here (other architects who question 9/11 are listed here )
A former guidance systems engineer for Polaris and Trident missiles and professor emeritus, mathematics and computer science at a university concluded that the Twin Towers "were brought down by planted explosives."
A 13-year professor of metallurgical engineering at a U.S. university, with a PhD in materials engineering, a former Congressional Office of Technology Assessment Senior Staff Member, is calling for a new investigation of 9/11
A professor of mathematics said "The official explanation that I've heard doesn't make sense because it doesn't explain why I heard and felt an explosion before the South Tower fell and why the concrete was pulverized"
A number of structural engineers have questioned the government's explanation for the collapse of the Twin Towers . As just two of many examples, two structural engineers at a prestigious Swiss university said that, on 9/11, World Trade Center 7 was brought down by controlled demolition (translation here )
A Dutch demolition expert stated “I looked at the drawings, the construction and it couldn't be done by fire. So, no, absolutely not. Building 7 was brought down by controlled demolition. Absolutely.”
A safety engineer and accident analyst for the Finnish National Safety Technology Authority stated regarding WTC 7 that "The great speed of the collapse and the low value of the resistance factor strongly suggest controlled demolition."
A Danish professor of chemistry said, in a mainstream Danish newspaper, "WTC7 collapsed exactly like a house of cards. If the fires or damage in one corner had played a decisive role, the building would have fallen in that direction. You don't have to be a woodcutter to grasp this" (translated)
A world-renowned scientist, recipient of the National Medal of Science, America's highest honor for scientific achievement, said “I suggest that those of us aware and concerned demand that the glaringly erroneous official account of 9/11 be dismissed as a fraud and a new, thorough, and impartial investigation be undertaken.”
A terrorism security expert used by many news organizations asked, after commenting on the "secondary explosions", "whether in fact there wasn't something else at the base of the towers that in fact were the coup de grace to bring them to the ground" (keep in mind that a controlled demolition involves the use of explosives both at the base of the building and in higher sections of the building)----------
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Originally posted by KarachiComment
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Heres some credible people:Originally posted by Toramana View Post
Daniel Ellsberg, William Blum, Daniel Berrigan, David Swanson, Elizabeth Kucinich, Lewis Lapham, Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, Amy Goodman, Thom Hartmann, Rabbi Michael Lerner, Marc Crispin Miller, Howard Zinn, Ray McGovern, Robert McChesney, Gore Vidal, Chris Floyd, Robert Fisk, Medea Benjamin, Doris "Granny D" Haddock, Paul Hawken, David Cobb, Randy Hayes, Ernest Callenbach, Dennis Bernstein, Paul H. Ray, Michael Franti, Janeane Garafalo and Ed Asner all have in common?
^ All of these leading liberal voices question the Bush administration's account of what happened on 9/11.
Moreover, Noam Chomsky is calling for the declassification of 9/11-related documents. Former ambassador to Iraq Joseph Wilson is dissatisfied with the government's explanation for 9/11. And the former president of the National Lawyers Guild and many other prominent progressive legal scholars question 9/11.
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let's see what leading conservatives have to say:
Current Republican Congressman states that "we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on"
Former U.S. Republican Congressman and senior member of the House Armed Services Committee, who served six years as the Chairman of the Military Research and Development Subcommittee, has shown that the U.S. tracked hijackers before 9/11, is open to hearing information about explosives in the Twin Towers, and is open to the possibility that 9/11 was an inside job
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan said that the official story of 9/11 is "the dog that doesn't hunt" (if you suspect he is a closet liberal, take a look at his bio)
Former high-ranking Reagan official and very influential conservative finds "massive evidence that the 9/11 Commission Report is a hoax"
Former Air Force Colonel and Pentagon official, who was part of the influential Office of Special Plans, and who was at the Pentagon on 9/11 does not believe the official story regarding 9/11 (see also this essay)
Former Chairman of the Conservative National Committee in Washington DC, former Executive Editor of Conservative Digest, and former U.S. Marine Corps fighter pilot questions many aspects of the government's version of 9/11
Former Governor of Minnesota questions the government's version of 9/11, including the collapse of the Twin Towers
Conservative Arizona State Senator questions 9/11
In addition, the following high-level military and intelligence personnel have also questioned 9/11 (it is not clear whether or not they are conservatives; but their credentials are impressive):
Retired Lieutenant Colonel who served 21 years in the U.S. Marine Corps, a fighter pilot who flew over 300 combat missions, questions the official version of 9/11 and said "This isn't about party, it isn't about Bush Bashing. It's about our country, our constitution, and our future...Your countrymen have been murdered and the more you delve into it the more it looks as though they were murdered by our government, who used it as an excuse to murder other people thousands of miles away."
Former 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer stated that "9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war", and it was probably an inside job (see Customer Review dated October 7, 2006)
Former FBI translator, who the Department of Justice's Inspector General and several senators have called extremely credible said "If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up". She also is leaning towards the conclusion that 9/11 was an inside job
Former director of the U.S. "Star Wars" space defense program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, who was a senior air force colonel who flew 101 combat missions believes that the military was intentionally disabled on 9/11 in order to allow the attacks to succeed
High-ranking general and the former chief of NATO (in Danish; hint -- he mentions bombs in the Twin Towers)
(http://georgewashington.blogspot.com...and-right.html)
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Originally posted by KarachiComment
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Its not a conspiracy if you can prove it. is my posts and videos not enough proof?..you seem to forget that fake Bin Laden videos appeared on national TV and when people blatently could tell that it wasnt Bin laden they realised the public isnt as stupid as people think and removed it and never mentioned it again. maybe your not familiar with the jurispudence system but even if someone says "i murdered him" you still need evidence to sentance the person, so m16 if somebody has simply said 'we'v done it' but evidence shows otherwise then its not classed as evidence. iv given evidence in this post that it was an inside job and the buildings were brought down with bombs and the theory that men from a cave could have hijacked planes and navigated it to new york is ridiculous if you think about it.
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you speak as if the government would NEVER hurt its own people. At least not intentionally.
Actually, the U.S. government -- and many other Western governments -- have done so before. Initially, the Joint Chiefs of Staff actually approved a plan to carry out terrorist attacks and kill U.S. citizens and blame it on Cuba, as a justification for invading Cuba. And a government informant has stated that he tried to stop the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, but that the FBI intentionally let the bombing happen . There are many other examples of other governments killing their own people for political gain, and the U.S. government killing its own as well.
As additional examples of the U.S. government letting U.S. citizens die based upon deceptions, many people breathed in highly toxic dust near ground zero, after the government knowingly misrepresented the risk, going as far as discouraging first responders from wearing masks. The U.S. government also misled the American people into the Iraqi war, causing thousands of American deaths.----------
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Originally posted by KarachiComment
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every1 nows 9/11 was an inside job only idiots will not believe it
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i didnt say he dosnt exsist i just dont think he done itOriginally posted by MI6
and videos can be made at any time, like america dosnt have the tech to do it, they can make such videos when ever they please
and why isit that when ever they want to increase troops or move into new areas or say they need 2 stay longer a video of mr bin comes out eitha like 2-3 weeks before or afterKa Makh De Rana Hear Sho No Jehan Ba Rana Hear She
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Originally posted by MI6
I challenge you to refute the posts and videos that i have posted in this thread. including the credible people that i have quoted along with the fact sheet and first hand witnesses.----------
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Originally posted by KarachiComment
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