new vido of Pakistan army killing an innocent Pashtuns

[Shehbaz Khan]

if the swatiyaan knew them, why didn't the army give it to proper channels? Why didn't they jail them? Was this necessary then?

Again I will have to repeat my self!! This was necessary they were confirmed to be the friends of Talibans and hence they must be interrogated to know what was the strategy of the militants.. Where are they now.. And how can they hit the Army?

[Shayesta]

^ If that's the case then what is all this filming about, ha? What are they trying to prove? That they are fighting against 'the enemy'? Why do they need to prove themselves? Because they are worried the public might not trust them? Or because they are worried those who trust them might lose it? Either way, very clearly, they are hiding something for which they are trying their level best to make up. Even if that's filming them being bigger heroes than Indian actors. And where Taliban is now? Did you search for them in ISI and your government's pockets already?

[Shehbaz Khan]

Shayesta Khorai .. Kha ye?


Oh, a chance to deny? Does his denial carry any weight when the normal people reported him to be a supporter of those bunch of terrorists?

NO!! Suppose I don't know anything like ABC even if you torture me to death I can't write ABC.. Simple if he didn't know anything than how will he provide Army with the information.

Go ask them? Those bunch of stupid militants? They were even given a chance to settle the matters through peace by ANP if they would have cashed that chance what could have we shown the world imagine? Within a state a valley beautiful as heaven with a purely Islamic system (not barbaric as they made it)

Am I talking to a girl who doesn't even understand how the the Intelligence agencies work? You need to be with your enemy and think as he thinks to get him down.

But where was war when Talibans came there? They started it first by beheading people.

Just could be vactor could also be vice versa? Entirely opposite as you are thinking?

Haha, so you think ISI and Punjab went there to put those banners in the streets of Swat? That was done by those stupids and idiots.

Information by the local people of Swat was there against those who were interrogated. I can't prove it, even you can't. So as I can't call myself completely right, you can't call me completely wrong thats why I said Allah knows the best. And I even said that If this guy was innocent and the soldiers knew it they must be punished this needs to be condemned but if he was guilty this punishment is nothing for him.

NO that couldn't be assumption. Ofcourse you are not telling me that Army or the local Swatians were the ones hitting the schools of the girls? If it wasn't Army it was not even done by the Swatians whose left on that ground to do that?

[Shehbaz Khan]

It is sick and barbaric. Treating even an enemy like that. Muslim do that to another Muslim? This must be reported to the UN, though they will ignore it.

Darvaish khana If it was the same enemy who did all that **** or if he was one of them than this is nothing .. !!

And if he was innocent than the hands of that soldier needs to be chopped off ..!!

[Shehbaz Khan]

Shayesta khorai,
This is exactly what i said in the first post .. Who is making the video? And what is the health of this video is a question needs to be asked?

[Shehbaz Khan]

shabaz khan and other patriotic pakies will prove them fake as usual. either pakies will claim it was done by indian to kashmiris.

That could have been easy Afghan wrora like Pakistani I would have just said its a propaganda. But no I am here to accept that if he has nothing to do with the millitants than Army did wrong and the soldiers deserve to be punished.
But are you ready to accept that if he had connections with TTP than this was what he deserved?

[Shehbaz Khan]

Don't worry too much, when Afghanistan is a powerful independent country (within 20 to 30 years), we will buy Pakhtunkhwa from Pakistan at a very cheap cost. Learn from this. Pakistani government will do almost anything for a little money. This will be the most efficient and smooth way to obtain Pakhtunkhwa!!!

Imaginations encircle the world .. this is what you just want to see

Over the years, the Pakistani Army has recieved billions in military aid from the US. You don't need half a brain to know this. They kill innocent civilians on a regular basis.

Billions of military aid and the cost was more than those billions Pakistan Army received. They kill innocent civilians on regularly basis is what you think!! :s

They have failed to re-devlop Swat after their US-sponsored war there. What more do you need to know. US, NATO, and Pakistiani Army are joined together at the hip!!!!

You want Swat to be re developed so shortly. It will take years!! And the job of re-developing swat belongs to the govt. They need to take steps to re-develop Swat !!

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Shehbaz torture is illegal, period. You are justifying something that is against the constitution of your country and against international norms. This argument that you are putting forward is what the supporters of Bush used to say to justify patriot act. You are no better than them. What is tragic is you are worse, you are justifying it against your own.

[Shehbaz Khan]

I am justifying something that is against the constitution of my country but that step was against those who called the constitution of my country a complete **** and my disgraced the judges in my courts. I am talking about those animals who used the name of the most peaceful religion and slaughtered those civilians who offered them their houses.

Let the readers of our argument decide who is right and who is wrong!!

Manana ..

[Shayesta]

Shayesta Khorai .. Kha ye?

Manena wrora, taso waye?

Oh, a chance to deny? Does his denial carry any weight when the normal people reported him to be a supporter of those bunch of terrorists?

Then why is he being asked what relationship he shares with Taliban? The 'fact' he does share a relationship with them isn't enough?

Simple if he didn't know anything than how will he provide Army with the information.

If he didn't know anything then he must have been falsely accused, right?

Am I talking to a girl who doesn't even understand how the the Intelligence agencies work?

No, you are talking to a girl who struggles since years to understand the Pakistani perspective of 'intelligence agencies', which so far has okay'ed literally every single brutal act done upon it's civilians for whatever bullsh*t reason.

You need to be with your enemy and think as he thinks to get him down.

Even if that meant joining them along by killing and torturing innocent people, within which some of them have been caught? Now don't tell me that despite of being a part of a fascist group like the Taliban they at the least haven't even been forced to carry out whatever acts against the civilians!

But where was war when Talibans came there? They started it first by beheading people.

Who gave Taliban the chance to get this far in first place? And who till the day of today making their presence known in Pakistan by supporting them financially? USA, India, Afghanistan, UK, Russia or Israel? Or anyone other enemy I missed out on?

Just could be vactor could also be vice versa? Entirely opposite as you are thinking?

Entire opposite of which thinking? The fact that he could be innocent? You yourself are admitting even you ain't sure what to make of this which means he could very well be innocent and if he is, he just lost a life he had all the rights on. And if he could be guilty as well only then he didn't have anything to lose and this should have been proceeded behind closed doors, not very heroically filmed.

so you think ISI and Punjab went there to put those banners in the streets of Swat? That was done by those stupids and idiots.

So basically their beheading people, cutting people, mistreatment of women, etcetera, etcetera and etcetera wasn't enough about what they stood for which even made them make banners to make a standing point? Shahbaz, seriously?

Information by the local people of Swat was there against those who were interrogated. I can't prove it, even you can't. So as I can't call myself completely right, you can't call me completely wrong

Where is any testimony regarding this video then? How hard could it be for them to find a witness who in his own words admits this man indeed was involved in blahdi blahdi blah? Wouldn't that have made the army look much more professional?

Who is making the video? And what is the health of this video is a question needs to be asked?

One million percent by the army! This is not the first ever video that has been 'leaked' and nor is your army plus so-called intelligence agencies so stupid not to realize the filming taking place if it wasn't done by an soldier himself. And for me, the reason is crystal clear.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

I am justifying something that is against the constitution of my country but that step was against those who called the constitution of my country a complete **** and my disgraced the judges in my courts. I am talking about those animals who used the name of the most peaceful religion and slaughtered those civilians who offered them their houses.

Let the readers of our argument decide who is right and who is wrong!!

Manana ..

Lolzz the rule of law is what counts. So you are no better than the talibs. Both of you go against the constitution of your country to what you deem as right. Good job. You are in league with them...one said islam zindabad you said pakistan zindabad lolzz.

[Shehbaz Khan]

Shayesta Khorai Aman day staso hum kha ghwaro ..

What relationship mean to which extent what information does he have about them currently and their current status?

If he didn't know anything than he won't provide the information and hence he is falsely accused and I already said that if he is tortured without the fact that he is/was associated to the Talibans than this is entirely wrong and the soldier needs to punished.

Yes the intelligence agencies do work in the vary same way. My family members were there in FATA with the Face of drug dealers. This is how intelligence agencies work. What you mean by that? The civilians are gonna die if the men from the intelligence are there or not. So they better be there and watch their moves and locations.

Who let them go that far? The ANP govt and they did right as they on their hand wanted to solve the matter with peace. But those stupids couldn't understand this at all .. Who is supporting them? Wallah-o-Alam .. Whoever that is, he is not a friend of the state called Pakistan. Could be anyone except ISI for sure as why will ISI continue creating a head ach for themselves? For Dollars stop this nonsense. The damage is much more than the aid

Ofcourse their is no question about the fact that the banners were made by them and they were the ones to put them on there .. My point with that banners thing was something else if you could go back and read it again

Information by the local people of Swat was there against those who were interrogated.
This is a separate sentence and after that I wrote you can't prove me completely wrong neither can I prove you completely right.

Oh and than the vary same Army will be publishing this video to get the common masses stand against them Quite unprofessional isn't it?

[Shehbaz Khan]

Army is better than Talibans atleast not there to destroy schools and hospitals. Not isolating the women to their homes.. Yep punishing them I'd already said that if he was guilty I've no objection what so ever .. He deserved this !!

[Shehbaz Khan]

Whether he was innocent (which he most likely was- an old man) or guilty, this is not the way to treat someone. The only guilty people I see in the video are the Pakistani soldiers!!!

Have you seen the video in which a young 14 years old kid from TTP was kicking an old speen geray mashar? This has nothing to do with age my dear

Now, onto Pakhtunkhwa, I have seriously thought about how we can resolve this in the future and have come to a very realistic conclusion of purchasing it.

The Pakistani governmnet loves money a lot, and lets be frank will do almost anything for money!!! This is widely known. So, the peaceful way to resolve this issue is for a future Afghanistan to buy it so that Pakhtunkhwa can become part of Afghanistan.


There is nothing to laugh about. This is a very serious plan. The Afghans will need about 10-20 billion dollars (or that equivalent in Chinese yen).

Think about it. When has Pakistan ever said NO to money???

This is a serious plan Shehbaz wrora!!!! By that time, you will have changed your mind on all these issues (I am sure).

Good Luck with whatever your plans are ..
I guess it was Luffy who said that in order to regain KPK you will be needing a strong Afghanistan. And as far as your plan is concerned will if you can give a million dollars to me I can work with you infact

[KhyberKhan]

Shehbaz i hope this happens to your grandad.

no jokes aside, I honestly mean it, only then will sell-outs like you open your eyes.

Seriously. I hope your grandad is alive, actually i wish he is, so that you recieve his strewn body in the same condition and ask yourself if this level of dhulm is acceptable.

It's the only way with people like you. Unless it happen to you or your family its fine. Doesn't matter if some pencil-necked, grave-worshipping baboon is stamping on the most honorable person in your culture, the whitebeard mashar, as long as you get to eat your tandoor rotay on time EVERYTHING is fine in your world.

Teek dha, like i said, hopefully it happens to your family.

Ameen.