Afghan poem for Pakistanis

[parsiwaan]

I can't wait for the day when paksitan burns!!!



ای پاکستانی



گر بقائ خویش می خواهی تمام
از من بیدل، پزیرا شو پیام

که پیام من ز اقبال شماست
زانکه اقبال شما، اقبال ماست

ما ز اقبال این سخن آموختیم
این چراغ از نور او افروختیم



مرد عارف آن بزرگ ارجمند
بهر آگاهی چنین دادست پند


«آسیا یک پیکر آب و گل است
ملت افغان در آن پیکر دل است»



پس بدانید ای گروه آسیا
آسیا پیکر بود دل آریا

چون شما یک پیکر آب و گلید
در بقای خویش محتاج دلید



دل که در پیکار و در سنگر بود
تن که همکاری کند بهتر بود

دل نباشد، تن نباشد در میان
دوستان را این پیام از من رسان

که بیاراءید صف در رزم جنگ
دل بدست آرید از چنگ نهنگ

از بهر تو صد بار ملامت بکشم
گر بشکنم این عهد غرامت بکشم

گر عمر وفا کند جفا های ترا
در دل دارم که تا قیامت بکشم
؟؟؟؟

[Shehbaz Khan]

I can't wait for the day when paksitan burns!!!

Oh I see !! Though I couldn't understand the poem but the theme is clear :p

[Feroza_Banu]

the poem has nothing negative in it ... if u don't understand what it says then don't talk.

its a very beautiful poem and very beautifully written... i will try to post translation later inshaAllah

[Feroza_Banu]

^yes inshaAllah i will... it basically says afghanistan is the heart of Asia so if Asia, and if the heart stops working then so will the other body parts...

[Toramana]

the poem has nothing negative in it ... if u don't understand what it says then don't talk.

its a very beautiful poem and very beautifully written... i will try to post translation later inshaAllah

Feroza_Bano, I can't understand one thing. Why do you apologise for Parsiwanan so much to the extent that you sometimes lay the entire blame for all the bad things that happened in Afghanistan on Pashtuns. It would be very nice were you also having the same apologetic explanation of Pashtuns' role in the Afghan civil war.

[Feroza_Banu]

^so what do you want me to do ? Lie? and say the poem is hateful?

za ba ghulaam nasham ka ghulaam shei tol jahan!

poy shwe? the entire pashtoon community can stand on one side and i will stand on the other side alone to back up the truth!...

da dorogh jano da be imaano aw da baigharat khalko makh tor wei ka pakhtoon wei aw ka farsiwaan, aw ka da asmaan na lwedali kam insaan.

za ba tal da rikhtya sara yam. ka za kam spak pakhtoon woweenam aw ka kam spak farsiwaan doghona ghairat laram che worta wowayam che ta spak ye! za zeni noro baigharat aw spak khalko pa shaan nayam che zaan der paas paas nesi aw noro khalko ta teet gori.

pakhtaana kam da asmaan na raghalai khalak nadei aw na kum farsiwaan aw na kum bal khalak ba de dunya kei... mong tol barabar yo... and Allah swt judges us based on our individual sins and good deeds not our entire community. I will never speak lie about any individual or group or matter just to feed my own ego... daa chamoona da spak khalko zda wei...

i don't have anything negative in my heart for any race, and ethnicity and any nation in this whole world... i judge people based on their own action... not someone else's in their community.

and NO don't bother to waste ur time in writing a response... i really could care less about what u have to say after this post of mine ...

[ComradePashtun]

Beutiful poem. Manana/Tashakor, Parsiwana.

[Toramana]

^so what do you want me to do ? Lie? and say the poem is hateful?

za ba ghulaam nasham ka ghulaam shei tol jahan!

poy shwe? the entire pashtoon community can stand on one side and i will stand on the other side alone to back up the truth!...

da dorogh jano da be imaano aw da baigharat khalko makh tor wei ka pakhtoon wei aw ka farsiwaan, aw ka da asmaan na lwedali kam insaan.

za ba tal da rikhtya sara yam. ka za kam spak pakhtoon woweenam aw ka kam spak farsiwaan doghona ghairat laram che worta wowayam che ta spak ye! za zeni noro baigharat aw spak khalko pa shaan nayam che zaan der paas paas nesi aw noro khalko ta teet gori.

pakhtaana kam da asmaan na raghalai khalak nadei aw na kum farsiwaan aw na kum bal khalak ba de dunya kei... mong tol barabar yo... and Allah swt judges us based on our individual sins and good deeds not our entire community. I will never speak lie about any individual or group or matter just to feed my own ego... daa chamoona da spak khalko zda wei...

i don't have anything negative in my heart for any race, and ethnicity and any nation in this whole world... i judge people based on their own action... not someone else's in their community.

and NO don't bother to waste ur time in writing a response... i really could care less about what u have to say after this post of mine ...

Feroza_Bano, thanks for the prompt and courteous reply. Regarding impartiality/truthfulness as you've mentioned in your post, I wish such absolute fairness were humanly possible. We as humans, with weaknesses and needs, are subject to compulsions and influences arising out of our relationships with things important to us like culture, social group, family, conjugal relations, etc. One should be humble to accept this fact rather than hide it with pretence of impartiality.

When the Parsiwan said things in another thread, he said it from the stand-point of his group interests, blaming Pashtuns as the sole perpetrators in the Afghan civil war and calling their culture ugly and tribalistic. I am so sorry to mention it that your impartiality couldn't then get invoked. Rather, when I gave a reply to him, that bounced back on me indirectly(and very hardly) in another thread where Pashtuns from Pakhtunkhwa were blamed for all the bad things that happened to the brethern from Afghanistan. I may be wrong but my impression is, this was a reaction to what I said to the Parsiwan earlier.

Anyhow, the point is, I am a Pashtun and, therefore, let me admit with all humbleness that I am reasonably biased in favour of Pashtuns. So many people whether Punjabis, Tajaks, Parsiwanans, MQM, Americans, British, etc., are trying to lay the blame for all the terrorism and violence in Afghanistan and the broader region exclusively on Pashtuns to further their ethno-political or national/global agenda. Why should we Pashtuns or our future generations live with the guilt feeling that our adversaries want to inject in us just to take political advantage of the resulting psychological condition and state of mind of ours. If someone has a soft corner for one ethnicity or another, that is another matter but appeasement of outsiders just at the cost of your own people shouldn't be accepatable to those who care for Pashtuns and want to defend their genuine rights.

[parsiwaan]

I dont speak Persian. I only speak Afghani aka Pashto.

If you live in Afghanistan...then you better learn Persian or you will have tough time.... if your Pakistani then don't worry.. the beautiful language is not for cultureless people. You go talk karti parta charta.

[parsiwaan]

I am against this poem since it generalizes about the 20million brothers we have in Pakistan who live in an occupied land.

Dude you should ask your brother TALA, Toormana and rest of Pukis.. they will drink your blood for pukistan...and yet you shameless want to continue beating the same old broken dram of pashtonistan...give it a rest...i don't know about you but for rest of us afghans have nothing in common with these savages.

[parsiwaan]

Feroza_Bano, I can't understand one thing. Why do you apologise for Parsiwanan so much to the extent that you sometimes lay the entire blame for all the bad things that happened in Afghanistan on Pashtuns. It would be very nice were you also having the same apologetic explanation of Pashtuns' role in the Afghan civil war.

Just notice how this Paki is dividing us afghans... Pashtons of Afghanistan... for years you beat the dram of Pashtonistan and Pashtons right and try hard to divide Pukistan... and yet nothing happen... but rest assure these Pakistani Pashton will suck your and rest of Afghanistan blood for sake of Pakistan.. just as these Pukis Pashtons had destroy afghan state and destroy Afghanistan. Wake up for love of god. Wake up my brothers and sister and think...don't get used think about your interest.

[Toramana]

Just notice how this Paki is dividing us afghans... Pashtons of Afghanistan... for years you beat the dram of Pashtonistan and Pashtons right and try hard to divide Pukistan... and yet nothing happen... but rest assure these Pakistani Pashton will suck your and rest of Afghanistan blood for sake of Pakistan.. just as these Pukis Pashtons had destroy afghan state and destroy Afghanistan. Wake up for love of god. Wake up my brothers and sister and think...don't get used think about your interest.

My views are very clear i.e., I will not let a single drop of Pashtun blood-shed for any Parsiwan, Tajak, Punjabi, etc. Think about yourself. To have the grand-dream of Afghanistan yak Kishwar-i-Farsizaban fullfilled and Persian solidarity and unity extending from Persipolis to Doshunbe realised, you may do anything, that including further division of Pashtuns and marginalising them culturally and politically.

What is the guarantee you would break cultural, ethnic, and sectarian ties with Tajakistan, Persipolis, Iran, etc. and truly integrate with Pashtuns on the basis of equality and mutual respect whose culture you are calling barbaric? The point is, are you sincere or are you making this claim to drive a wedge and take political benefit out of the resulting situation?

[parsiwaan]

My views are very clear i.e., I will not let a single drop of Pashtun blood-shed for any Parsiwan, Tajak, Punjabi, etc. Think about yourself. To have the grand-dream of Afghanistan yak Kishwar-i-Farsizaban fullfilled and Persian solidarity and unity extending from Persipolis to Doshunbe realised, you may do anything.

Afghanistan was, is and well always be ek kishwar e Farsizaban...from Ahmad shah Durrani to Karzia all speak Farsi. Our destiny lays with people we share race, language and culture with not with cultureless brown daalkhors...slowly but surly all Iranic people will be reunited into a secular democratic confederation…a successor of old Persian empire.....once the Akhond of Iran falls, and the filth of Shaism is destroyed...with a secular democratic gov in Afghanistan, Iran and Tajiksitan...people will realize their bond and it will be inevitable…i as student of history I never lost faith in our culture and language.

What is the guarantee you would break cultural, ethnic, and sectarian ties with Tajakistan, Persipolis, Iran, etc. and truly integrate with Pashtuns on the basis of equality and mutual respect whose culture you are calling barbaric? The point is, are you sincere or are you making this claim to drive a wedge and take political benefit out of the resulting situation?

You Paki Pashtons effectively destroyed Afghan state and are mainly responsible for the suffering and miseries in Afghanistan with 14 years of caring your Punjabi daddies strategic depth policy against Afghanistan and yet you blaming me for driving a wedge? Honestly when i call you Pakis cultureless i sincerely mean it. There is nothing unique about your country Pakistan that can form base of your identity, even not religion like that of Israel. You people are cultureless and identities...so truly i don't expect you to understand anything about culture. As for as Afghanistan’s issue… I do not give you Pukis the right to middle in our affair…what happens between each ethnic of Afghanistan is between us… you go and enjoy your daal Paki boy.

[Toramana]

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Afghanistan was, is and well always be ek kishwar e Farsizaban...from Ahmad shah Durrani to Karzia all speak Farsi. Our destiny lays with people we share race, language and culture with not with cultureless brown daalkhors...slowly but surly all Iranic people will be reunited into a secular democratic confederation…a successor of old Persian empire.....once the Akhond of Iran falls, and the filth of Shaism is destroyed...with a secular democratic gov in Afghanistan, Iran and Tajiksitan...people will realize their bond and it will be inevitable…i as student of history I never lost faith in our culture and language.

Ok, ok, so you have corroborated what I said in my previous post i.e., the sole objective of this chicanery is isolating Pashtuns of Afghanistan from their brethern accross the Durand and realise the dream of Persian unity. The cultural/political chauvinism is glaringly clear from your post.

You Paki Pashtons effectively destroyed Afghan state and are mainly responsible for the suffering and miseries in Afghanistan with 14 years of caring your Punjabi daddies strategic depth policy against Afghanistan and yet you blaming me for driving a wedge? Honestly when i call you Pakis cultureless i sincerely mean it. There is nothing unique about your country Pakistan that can form base of your identity, even not religion like that of Israel. You people are cultureless and identities...so truly i don't expect you to understand anything about culture. As for as Afghanistan’s issue… I do not give you Pukis the right to middle in our affair…what happens between each ethnic of Afghanistan is between us… you go and enjoy your daal Paki boy.

Parsianwan, you in your narscistic spell might believe your culture is very splendid but believe me not a single Pashtun of Pakhtunkhwa has been influenced by your culture or ever tried to emulate your culture despite the fact that millions of Parsiwans stayed in Peshawar for almost two decades. No offense intended but your culture was considered too gaudy and flamboyant by the Pukhtunkhwa Pashtuns to adopt who have a concept of dignity as enshrined in Pashtunwali.

We have Pashtunwali to live by though there is lot in Pashtunwali that needs transformation.

[ComradePashtun]

Parsiwan,

Please behave yourself and don't get excited. Just a friednly one.