A trip back down the memory lane...

[akbarkhan]

akbarkhan,

what you are presenting is a paradox. Is it not a rule among the Muslims who life in Afghanistan that apostate should be killed? So, what other choices to people have who leave Islam? The insincerity is created by religion.

Moreover, why does someone's belief matter if their main objective is to rebuild the country and not coerce the country into a specific doctrine?

I am not presenting any paradox what so ever.

If the general public in Afghanistan take apostacy as seriously as you pointed out, then surely someone's personal belief is a matter of importance to that general public.

[pir_Rokhan]

No I don't believe in conspiracy theories.

Col Imam can say that anyone is his student, but that doesn't make them his students. Unless Mullah Omar himself admits that he is a student of him or the people who are close to him, that would be evidence. But by the way one can be a student of someone, that doesn't mean that one will accept and follow everything that his teacher says, or that one has to be under the command of his teacher his whole life. Especially not if you have the majority of the Afghans and muslims supporting you and fighting under your command. Pakistan is a failed state. They can't even manage their own problems, millions of people are displaced and have no homes because of the floods, their economy is crumbling, their state is hugely indebted to IMF and other countries, their army is loosing. Let them worry about their own deterioriating situation of their country.

Ask Mullah Omar if you are allowed to talk to him.

Mullah Omar is a student of Col Imam and it means that all strategic goals and decisions are based on col Imam's expertise as Mullah Omar is not a military or intelligence agency man he is just a Mullah and fighting a war does not require to learn Surah Yasin by heart but the skill to achieve strategic targets through military tactics.

[Maiwand]

Ask Mullah Omar if you are allowed to talk to him.

Mullah Omar is a student of Col Imam and it means that all strategic goals and decisions are based on col Imam's expertise as Mullah Omar is not a military or intelligence agency man he is just a Mullah and fighting a war does not require to learn Surah Yasin by heart but the skill to achieve strategic targets through military tactics.

Did Umar (ra) and Abu Bakr (ra) have a intelligence agency in order to defeat the mighty Persian Empire and part of the Roman Empire? Those mullah's did defeat a super power some years ago, remember. They are now defeating another superpower, with the help of God. They have the skill to achieve strategic targets, it is very simple, just fight untill the enemy is defeated. The taliban can fight anc sustain a guerilla warfare for a long time, but the westerns forces are going economically bankrupt and they are lossing forces every day. This can't continue for years. They have to pull out eventually. And the Taliban win. You don't have to be a military or strategic genius in order to realise that. You don't need the intelligence of the ISI to realise that, LOL. The Afghans love to fight against the invaders and eventually defeat them. Look how much casualties the IED's have caused, every simple farmer can make one.

[Dust]

I am not presenting any paradox what so ever.

If the general public in Afghanistan take apostacy as seriously as you pointed out, then surely someone's personal belief is a matter of importance to that general public.

However, we all know how much zealots hate apostates. If an Islamic government was to take over it would force everyone to keep his or her beliefs under the carpet. If people were known to be apostates then they would be pinpointed and murdered, once that government takes over. Moreover, the general public do favour Muslims. So, it is not as simple as you have defended yourself.

Let us take you as in example: why do you care for someone's beliefs?

[pir_Rokhan]

Did Umar (ra) and Abu Bakr (ra) have a intelligence agency in order to defeat the mighty Persian Empire and part of the Roman Empire? Those mullah's did defeat a super power some years ago, remember. They are now defeating another superpower, with the help of God. They have the skill to achieve strategic targets, it is very simple, just fight untill the enemy is defeated. The taliban can fight anc sustain a guerilla warfare for a long time, but the westerns forces are going economically bankrupt and they are lossing forces every day. This can't continue for years. They have to pull out eventually. And the Taliban win. You don't have to be a military or strategic genius in order to realise that. You don't need the intelligence of the ISI to realise that, LOL. The Afghans love to fight against the invaders and eventually defeat them. Look how much casualties the IED's have caused, every simple farmer can make one.

Abu Bakr and Omar were not Mullahs. Omar was a talented administrator and a man of substance even before embracing Islam. Hence the prayer of Muhammad for one of the Omars to embrace Islam and then his saying:

" Khayarukum fil Jahilia Khayarukum fil Islam"

Guerilla war is also not possible without Planning and hitting when the iron is hot plus weapons. Both the war with Russia and now fighting ISAF were with the help of ISI and CIA not with the help of God.

Neither Russians nor ISAF are invaders. This is ISI propaganda. USSR came on the invitation of the communist regime and ISAF has the backing of UN.

The capitalists used negative propaganda against the communist regime to put a halt to the reforms. They used clergy for that dirty job.

Now ISI again is using Mullah Omar to offer resistance to ISAF so that their mission fails and Afghanistan falls prey to civil war and hence all the warring factions becomes dependent on Pakistan and Pakistan can dictate whatever she wants to passionate Mujahids like you who are ever ready to die for safeguarding Punjabi interests in the name of Islam.

Note this and ignore this to satisfy your ego but when it happens to Afghans then try to remember what I said to you.
Wawra aw mana ye ma.

[Maiwand]

Abu Bakr and Omar were not Mullahs. Omar was a talented administrator and a man of substance even before embracing Islam. Hence the prayer of Muhammad for one of the Omars to embrace Islam and then his saying:

" Khayarukum fil Jahilia Khayarukum fil Islam"

Guerilla war is also not possible without Planning and hitting when the iron is hot plus weapons. Both the war with Russia and now fighting ISAF were with the help of ISI and CIA not with the help of God.

Neither Russians nor ISAF are invaders. This is ISI propaganda. USSR came on the invitation of the communist regime and ISAF has the backing of UN.

The capitalists used negative propaganda against the communist regime to put a halt to the reforms. They used clergy for that dirty job.

Now ISI again is using Mullah Omar to offer resistance to ISAF so that their mission fails and Afghanistan falls prey to civil war and hence all the warring factions becomes dependent on Pakistan and Pakistan can dictate whatever she wants to passionate Mujahids like you who are ever ready to die for safeguarding Punjabi interests in the name of Islam.

Note this and ignore this to satisfy your ego but when it happens to Afghans then try to remember what I said to you.
Wawra aw mana ye ma.

you should study more politics and international relations, then you will understand the real role of the UN and other international agencies and institutions in the world affairs, especially in the muslim world. And watch less television, especially channels like Fox News and Pakistani Channels. Read more intellectual and academic books and the Quran, then you will have a more neutral and unbiased view on world affairs and the history. Also avoid conspiracy theorists and their idea's, they are poisonous for you rmind and clear thinking, they are the real opium of the masses. And lastly, make dua to Allah (swt) to be guided and your imaan made stronger. Because now your imaan is so weak that you believe the creation to be more omnipotent and powerful that the creator.

[ComradePashtun]

Maiwand, we have discussed all of this before. You know your top leaders are in ISI safe houses. Some in the high ranks say, that Mullah Saheb Omar is ISI prisoner.

[ComradePashtun]

Jasmine, he is now! So what else could he be? NOW, we are talking about, Jasminey!

[khyaal]

I'm not quite sure if he is a prisoner but he is under ISI influence.
CP, if he was a prisoner, why did he refuse to recognize the Durrand?

Even if Mullah Omar had recognized the Durand line, it couldn't change anything because Mula Omar's regime lacked legitimacy internally nor it had not been recognised by the World community, except, Pakistan, Saudi Arab and Kuwait.

[akbarkhan]

Mula Omar's regime lacked legitimacy internally

If that was the case then the resistance wouldn't have lasted 9 years, let alone being on the verge of victory. I am not for Taliban but that is the reality!

[Feroza_Banu]

Afghanistan is yet to see its deadliest time... we all could think it can never get worse than what happend to AFghanistan... but wait and watch... watch america leave and see what happens to your motherland.

I just wish i will be proven wrong but I don't think so. The type of civil war that will erupt this time will destroy Afghanistan once and for all... you all will have no identity left, you will have no motherland left and you will have nothing to call your own.

wake up for God's sake... wake up... this isn't the time to point fingers... this isn't the time to blame each other... this isn't the time for hatred and division... Do something for your motherland, talk of unity, talk of love, talk of acceptance... talk of similarities and not differences... you have a duty towards your country. as little as you can do something.

don't let the enemy get what they want... decades of war didn't teach you anything? enough is enough; u are about to loose your country to the worst civil war that is yet to come.

[akbarkhan]

Akbar Khan I am confused with your stance, who are you for?

I am for Akbar Khan II.

[abubaker]

salam


akbar

love your signature. have you got it from a book?

[akbarkhan]

salam


akbar

love your signature. have you got it from a book?

Alaikom Asalam,

No, I wrote it myself.