Who Invented Osama bin Laden to Slaughter the Arabs and Muslims?

[Faruque Ahmed]

Who Invented Osama bin Laden to Slaughter the Arabs and Muslims?

Burqa and Enemy

Bin Laden used t be `morally equivalent of American founding fathers'! Osama used to be the pin up boy of the corporate governments!! Secular and nationalists movements around the world used to be enemies of USA and religious extremists were invented and funded by USA, UK and other entities.


One day, the American Terrorist Leader Bush was playing with Billy the goat and we found out about the so called 9/11. All planes of USA were grounded except those ones escorting the precious Bin Laden clans to safe heavens!


Steel structured concrete buildings of Twin Towers melted like volcanic lava. Yet, the passport of the ring leader Mohammad Atta flew into the FBI desk!


Anyway, none of those so called hijackers were originated from Afghanistan. Yet, Afghanistan was attacked and ruined due to pipe line dream and opium trade. Iraq had nothing to do with Bin Laden or 9/11! Yet, the Illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq is well-known asIraq: A War For IsraelandIraq pullout would hurt Israelbut totally ignored by the compliant media and establishments.


In short they are running a crusade! They are using Bin Laden as a reason. Their modern day Inquisition, Conquistador and Crusade are much more brutal and vitriolic than old ones! Therefore it becomes a must to ask the following questions:
1. Who have elected Osama bin Laden as the leader of the Muslim world?
2. Since when and under what authority Osama bin Laden became spokes person or the undisputed leader of the Muslim and Arab world?
3. Since when and under what authority Osama bin Laden became `Pope' of the Arab and Muslim world?
4. Why Muslims and Arabs have to be guilty of alleged crimes of Osama bin Laden?
5. Who are behind these deadly games and why?


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[khyaal]

To know "Who invented Osama bin Laden"

Watch Peter Bergen's "IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF BIN LADEN" documentary.

[Maiwand]

^ I guess someone has waken up of nine years of slumber

[Catya Sher]

I'm not sure what the first paragraph is saying.

About not just ONE passport, but apparently SEVERAL, being magically drummed up intact out of an airplane ?! - why have SO FEW Americans bothered to question such obvious idiocies and the many inconsistencies in the story line of those events?

Today is 10-10-10. Nearly a decade has passed, full of evil set off by this pre-planned scenario. It was very well calculated by planners who knew the mentality of the average American well.

The mentality: act due to emotions. Intellectual speculation is not a strong suit of most Americans, especially those of today. So the critical faculty is too often missing. Hence the gulllibility for any propaganda ploy which gets to the emotional self of an American citizen. Yet they criticize Germans for blindly massing behind a cruel leader like Hitler. Well, what about here? Why are there few questions along the lines of what the person wrote in not very clear English? Why does no one think from the perspective of Afghans and Iraqis and others? Why does it have to be only these peoples who stand up in whatever way they can express their indignation?

By the way, the Inquisition was never as bad as it was built up to be. But today, with the American treatment of prisoners from the entire Middle East - South Asia region, I guess THIS would be a modernday Inquisition on the level the original one was imagined to be.

[Catya Sher]

I completely agree about the Ottoman Caliphate. I am still angry about the Arab Revolt, sponsored by that quasi-homosexual T.E. Lawrence. His picture makes me sick to look at. Even that of the actor who played him in the movie "Lawrence of Arabia".

This is a side note, but it was only in Pakistan, which by the way, had VCRs a good many years before America ever got them at least on a widespread basis, that I saw the lovely film "Omar Mukhtar" which a family was watching. Now THAT was a REAL Hero of the Desert !

Why has virtually no American ever heard of THIS great figure who tried to liberate Libya from the barbaric Italians who took over his country ? He is a legend only in North Africa. Because his brave resistance did not catch on at Hollywood, unlike Lawrence's escapades against the Ottoman Turkish dynasty's rule.

Back to the Caliphate, with whomever is anointed by Allah as Caliph! Some may grumble but this was the banner which united Muslims from Bosnia to Hyderabad India.
Western European powers had to act with respect due to the power bloc represented by Muslims. I'm not saying the Europeans were always exemplary. But there was a healthy fear of irritating the Caliph, the Sultan. Many trade, diplomatic, military cooperation overtures were made toward the Osmanli Sultan by France, England, etc.

Since the fall of the Ottomans in the early 1920s, engineered by some people say Masons, or crypto-Zionists in the ranks of the Young Turks, or any combination, Muslims have been trampled casually as though they were nothing. The intervening 90 years have been a nightmare for Muslims. Also at the hands of the Russians too, can't leave them out. In the 19th century the Russians regarded the Ottomans as a very serious threat. Few remember this today.

[khyaal]

I'm not sure what the first paragraph is saying.

About not just ONE passport, but apparently SEVERAL, being magically drummed up intact out of an airplane ?! - why have SO FEW Americans bothered to question such obvious idiocies and the many inconsistencies in the story line of those events?

Today is 10-10-10. Nearly a decade has passed, full of evil set off by this pre-planned scenario. It was very well calculated by planners who knew the mentality of the average American well.

The mentality: act due to emotions. Intellectual speculation is not a strong suit of most Americans, especially those of today. So the critical faculty is too often missing. Hence the gulllibility for any propaganda ploy which gets to the emotional self of an American citizen. Yet they criticize Germans for blindly massing behind a cruel leader like Hitler. Well, what about here? Why are there few questions along the lines of what the person wrote in not very clear English? Why does no one think from the perspective of Afghans and Iraqis and others? Why does it have to be only these peoples who stand up in whatever way they can express their indignation?

By the way, the Inquisition was never as bad as it was built up to be. But today, with the American treatment of prisoners from the entire Middle East - South Asia region, I guess THIS would be a modernday Inquisition on the level the original one was imagined to be.

The presence of US-NATO forces are under ISAF command, a UN security assisstance force.

You are too quick to criticize others but too ignorant to know about the actual reasons of the presence of ISAF forces which came to Afghanistan under UN Security council's resolution, which includes fifteen member countries and none of them opposed that resolution.

US had also participated in the Yugoslavia war against the Serbs to protect Bosnia. Do you also think that it was an act of aggression against the Serbs?

Through rash generalization you are in the some row as some ignorant Americans because you too try to confuse separate issues and thus draw wrong conclusions.

[khyaal]

@Catya Sher!Read just this to make yourself aware of the legitmacy of war which you have confused with Iraq war;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...esolution_1386

[khyaal]

. Remember that the world waited a long time to take action against Serbia.

But what legitimacy, in your view, the world had to interfere in someone else's affair?

There is no good entity in Afghanistan who is there to truly help Afghanistan be brought to stability. People there are now saying that life was at least livable under the Taliban (despite some of the actions they took). People could still go about their daily lives.

There is no good entity in the whole world but your after perfection.

Your assertion on behalf of afghan people is a big big lie. FYI, hundreds of thousands of people from Pakhtunkhwa and Pakistan/Punjab are doing businesses and jobs in Afghanistan now due to the vast opportunities created by the presence of a legitimate and constitutional government and the huge investment from the Western as well as neighbouring countries. I don't know which world you are living in.

[Catya Sher]

Good earlier rejoinder, Unknown. Hopefully you will become 'known' some day as the advocate of some good ideas for Afghanistan. Who knows, maybe our unknown will be the UN rep from Afghanistan?!!
Better be nice to some of these people on here, you nationalists and secularists and communists!!!

Maiwand and others will be leaders, so better back off !

I'm not wasting time to look at that link. Why? Everyone in the world knows that the US effectively controls almost all UN Resolutions> that means nothing at all. Why else does Israel get a free pass almost every time? Officials are probably picked who will be compliant with American demands.

Now if this were the Cold War, I wouldn't care. But this is a different time, where America has abused its power. Drastically so.

Clinton is/was one of the key Bilderberger appointees. He was a simple puppet. A weak and very suspect personality in many ways.

His actions would NEVER be due to the wish to avenge massacred Bosnian Muslims.
What, that guy?!!!
His actions would reflect NOTHING whatsoever outside of what the Trilateral Commission wanted at that juncture.
While the intervention in Bosnia DID gain some currency for America in Muslim countries, one has to cynically examine the reasons.

No one ever say definitively. However, there was a certain mine that was long coveted by outside powers. Many conspiracy theorists, especially Serbian ones, believe the war was just to get that.

Who knows?

However, as a fair and objective aside here, American bombing raids were conducted on the most important Orthodox holiday of the year: their Pascha. The US bombs were marked "Happy Easter" or something crazy like that.

THIS is the real face of the cruel power-mongers who are behind every single U.S. presidential administration !

It makes no difference if the UN passed a resolution to invade ANY country. Who cares?

It's all controlled behind the scenes by nefarious anti-God forces.
So what else can we expect except that the UN will rubber stamp anything the bad elements ruling America demand it agree to ?

By the way, where was this American goodwill when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan?
Had Americans REALLY cared about AFGHANS not global checkboard maneuvers, they would have had the UN make a resolution for the US to send forces to counter the Red Army.
But when Russia was ensconced in Kabul, Washington was way too fearful. Only after the Soviets had cleared out did America feel safe to send occupation forces.

[khyaal]

Good earlier rejoinder, Unknown. Hopefully you will become 'known' some day as the advocate of some good ideas for Afghanistan. Who knows, maybe our unknown will be the UN rep from Afghanistan?!!
Better be nice to some of these people on here, you nationalists and secularists and communists!!!

Maiwand and others will be leaders, so better back off !

I'm not wasting time to look at that link. Why? Everyone in the world knows that the US effectively controls almost all UN Resolutions> that means nothing at all. Why else does Israel get a free pass almost every time? Officials are probably picked who will be compliant with American demands.

Now if this were the Cold War, I wouldn't care. But this is a different time, where America has abused its power. Drastically so.

Clinton is/was one of the key Bilderberger appointees. He was a simple puppet. A weak and very suspect personality in many ways.

His actions would NEVER be due to the wish to avenge massacred Bosnian Muslims.
What, that guy?!!!
His actions would reflect NOTHING whatsoever outside of what the Trilateral Commission wanted at that juncture.

OK. Let us assume there is no objective moral standards and UN is controlled by the US, the British, the Russian or the Chinese as you claim (though you are wrong in the case of NATO's attack on Yugoslavia which lacked UN ratification becuase of Russia's presence in the Security Council and I can cite several other instances).

What other options do you have for resolving regional conflicts like when Pakistan, a neighbouring country to afghanistan succeeded in installing a puppet regime of Taliban as Pakistan/Punjab's proxies, OR in the case of internal conflicts in multinational states like Pakistan where a ruthless genocide of Bengali nation was committed and Pashtun and Baloch resistance movements for their just demands were crushed through the sheer might of Punjabi military? What then is your formula for tackling such situations?

[Catya Sher]

I did not claim that the Serbian war was given a rubber stamp by the UN.

Let's realize, though, the difference in the power balances. In 1999, Russia was not powerful, reeling from its currency collapse in 1998, and barely getting along.
But one thing it would never budge on is support for Serbia.

Serbs think of Russians as their revered elder brothers and national protectors.
Russians feel bonded to Serbs by Slavic and Orthodox links. So the two peoples often support each other. Hence vociferous anger to this day from Russians regarding that campaign. Not to mention scathing bitterness felt by Serbs. I know, I listened to them talk at the time and for years after. I supported the Muslims, of course, but I wanted to hear every side.

As a side note, if one says even a word to Serbian nationalists on behalf of Muslims they glare, scream, shout and will probably attack a woman, so enraged are they. Their culture has no respect for women.

This uncontrolled Serbian fury has roots in the savagely anti-Muslim Chetnik movement which emerged at the outset of WWII. There was so much injustice.

By the way, did England or America do a thing to intervene on behalf of Bosnian Muslims THEN ? No, of course not.
Instead of making even the minimum wise choice of backing the rightful Serbian King, Peter II, they threw ALL their support behind the Communist guerrilla leader, famous for decades after as Yugoslavia's strongman, Tito. [This was almost solely on the urging of the British diplomat of Scottish descent, Fitzroy Maclean.]
Talk about BAD DECISIONS! Then these countries complained about the nasty Communist leader ever after.

So!

Never look to any Western country or large amorphous group of countries such as the UN to solve ANY problem.Or even make a sincere stab at remedying injustice. None of these could care less about principles of fairness. They act nearly always on the prodding of rather awful policymakers.

To figure out solutions to Pakistan's internal problems, I would suggest the OIC. That's the first group that comes to mind. It has to be Islamic, it has to have some stature. The OIC is perhaps the only international group today which has both.
Does it have enough muscle to enforce decisions made?

Probably not.

The bottom line, though, is that God has a solution to EVERY problem, no matter how thorny.
Hence, groups of Islamic nations are more likely to hit upon the best solution. Not the U.S. which is almost to the point of MOCKING religion in the many court decisions made these days. The decidedly poor performance in Afghanistan these past years have shown that military muscle solves nothing. It only creates fear, hatred and more negative circumstances.

[khyaal]

ISo!

Never look to any Western country or large amorphous group of countries such as the UN to solve ANY problem.Or even make a sincere stab at remedying injustice. None of these could care less about principles of fairness. They act nearly always on the prodding of rather awful policymakers.

To figure out solutions to Pakistan's internal problems, I would suggest the OIC. That's the first group that comes to mind. It has to be Islamic, it has to have some stature. The OIC is perhaps the only international group today which has both.
Does it have enough muscle to enforce decisions made?

Probably not.

The bottom line, though, is that God has a solution to EVERY problem, no matter how thorny.
Hence, groups of Islamic nations are more likely to hit upon the best solution. Not the U.S. which is almost to the point of MOCKING religion in the many court decisions made these days. The decidedly poor performance in Afghanistan these past years have shown that military muscle solves nothing. It only creates fear, hatred and more negative circumstances.

LOL. OIC is the most failed organization which hasn't till this time succeeded in solving even Arab's own internal problems let alone their ability to solve problems for us. Can you, please, cite here any of its achievements thus far?