The myth that Pashtuns dominate the ISI

[Toramana]

No one has denied the existance of Pashtuns in ISI, Mr Talal. The only point is, they are too few compared to Punjos and too marginalised. And kindly, don't spread the typical Punjabi lies as to the existance of people of other ethnicities in ISI and army.

The fact is both ISI and Army are primarily Punjabi institutions. Rather the whole Paki state is a Punjabi state.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

No need to generalize on a whole ethnic toranama saib.

Talal I told you that yes they exist, but to go from there and make a conclusion that they are a major part of the organization without any hard proof is a tough sell if not a myth.

[Toramana]

No need to generalize on a whole ethnic toranama saib.

Talal I told you that yes they exist, but to go from there and make a conclusion that they are a major part of the organization without any hard proof is a tough sell if not a myth.

BLS, I am not generalizing on a whole ethnic group although that interpretation unfortunately may be made due to the complexity of the issue and lack of an adequate semantic/linguistic framework to limit ourselves to while discussing these things.

My intentions here in using the terms like Punjabi, etc. are to explicitly point to the fact that when Talal, Pakistani, etc. express their opinion, they look at things from Punjabi perspective and have Punjabi interests in mind although forumers here are smart enough to make that inference.

Sometimes, especially in matters of more serious conflicts, it is better to be more explicit in order to be clearer about how the battle-ground is, what types of adversaries are there to face, and what type of collective attitude and policy/strategy may work.

[Azmal]

Toramana why are you denying the obvious fact that ISI has many Pashtuns? I posted 2 sources that say its dominated by Pashtuns, what is your problem with my sources?

The ISI, brainchild of Australian-born British Army officer, Major General R. Cawthome. Any Pashtons in ISI will have to compromise his pashton-ness or will never be accepted in this imperialist created organization. Many or few is not the point the fact is any pashton in this organization cease to be a pashton.

[khyaal]

There is no such myth of Pashtuns' domination of ISI. Pashtuns know their "real worth" in Pakistani (fake) federation just as Bengalis did.

[Michin Khel]

Pashtuns know their "real worth" in Pakistani (fake) federation just as Bengalis did.

Now they dont know it. Between most of your statements regarding pashtuns in pakistan are straight propagandas. People like you who insults pashtuns of pakistan but defend farsiwans are suspicious. You are most probably a persianized pashtun from afghanistan !

I know i am blaming u but ur posts clearly reflects ur background.

[Son of Mountains]

Toramana why are you denying the obvious fact that ISI has many Pashtuns? I posted 2 sources that say its dominated by Pashtuns, what is your problem with my sources?

people accept which they like. And they deny which they dislike. I can put many examples....but no need i feel for. Some things remain unstraight always.

[ComradePashtun]

Toramana why are you denying the obvious fact that ISI has many Pashtuns? I posted 2 sources that say its dominated by Pashtuns, what is your problem with my sources?

ISI has enough Pashtuns to get the job it needs to get done with full satisfaction. Almost entire forward operating to those streamlining to its upest echelon which also involves substantial number of Pashtun are indeed Pashtuns. This is no myth but fact, reality and what makes ISI so formidable and it could never be such an effective organisation without filth Pathans. There is no reason in to creating the rather opposite myth. So although I agree with you and the rest of the Pakis - however I must say that your greasy Pathan face is quite revolting. It makes me chuk...

[ComradePashtun]

Those who don't know should ask genuine Pashtun leaders such as Mahmood Khan Achakzai about these benamoosan.

[Jinnah's Army]

what about the myth that no pashtuns make up the taliban?