why Muslims are so evil and hypocrites?

[parsiwaan]

Why is that when NETO/American forces kills civilians we see demonstration, bad mouth and the young boys of this form get their "blood boil" but then Pakistani dog taliban do no one even bother to mention it? Were these 5 kids not human? didn't they had family? Or is it that these acts are carried by Kafirs to give the great Muslims bad name? Seriously Islam is a big shame, the sooner we get ride of this cancer the better for people.
Another bs is when people go to Haj...seriously while our people are starving to death in Afghanistan they give their money to some already rich arab...now if we there is really equality in Islam then Kabba needs to move to each Islamic city each year.
Funny part is how tens of people die in demonstrating the burning of qorhan by some westerners... is a copy of qorhan worth more then life of 1 person? What the hell is this savage, primitive nomadic imperialism known as islam.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=94657615

[IamDZJ]

generally speaking it's guilt/fear. they have to respond somehow and what better way than to blame it on those who will be prosecuted by the majority. it doesn't only apply to the "little boys of this forum."

[parsiwaan]

generally speaking it's guilt/fear. they have to respond somehow and what better way than to blame it on those who will be prosecuted by the majority. it doesn't only apply to the "little boys of this forum."

But the guilt and fear is always directed at others... its always others that had f them...its always kafirs, monafeqs, moshriks and what not...but whent he same crimes or worst crimes is committed by themselves no one bothers...no one mentions it. When Muslim saddam kills Muslim Kurds. no one bothers, when Muslim punjabis kills more than millions of Muslim bangali...no one bothers...when Muslim taliban kills other Muslim or when Muslim NA kills other Muslim...when Muslim IRI kills Balochs and sunis...and so on.. no one bothers...but we hear about Falasteeeen like 24/7... i know few afghans that are more involved about Falasteen then Afghanistan... and i been to Gaza and most of Falasteen they camps are 1000000 times better then how afghan refugees are living in Pakistan and Iran. Palestinian politician are fat rich from aid money they steal and even average Palestinian are way way better then average afghans.

[Wrayun]

Why is that when NETO/American forces kills civilians we see demonstration, bad mouth and the young boys of this form get their "blood boil" but then Pakistani dog taliban do no one even bother to mention it? Were these 5 kids not human? didn't they had family? Or is it that these acts are carried by Kafirs to give the great Muslims bad name? Seriously Islam is a big shame, the sooner we get ride of this cancer the better for people.
Another bs is when people go to Haj...seriously while our people are starving to death in Afghanistan they give their money to some already rich arab...now if we there is really equality in Islam then Kabba needs to move to each Islamic city each year.
Funny part is how tens of people die in demonstrating the burning of qorhan by some westerners... is a copy of qorhan worth more then life of 1 person? What the hell is this savage, primitive nomadic imperialism known as islam.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=94657615

The loss of these lives is tragic, but this is war, and as Sher Shah said "all is fair in love and war". Something the British borrowed but never returned.

Who initiated this war? The insurgency is only fighting back in defense, in whatever means possible. You are not a good parent if you slap your child for defending themselves while defending they happen to struck a passerby. That is the mentality of the defeatist, coward, and of a spineless character. You know, like the parents of a child when he/she reports abuse the parents blame the child and not the abuser.

As for Hajj, it's not forced, and not mandatory. The people who go to Hajj do so out of their own intentions. The cost of providing a secure, safe, and healthy environment is also immense for a country where the only primary source for the economy is crude oil. The Arabs are rich, but not that rich. There are far more richer individuals in the West who have more money then many Arab state heads. Some of them alone can feed many poor nations, yet are sitting on their monies as chickens.

This is a misconception on your part that the Arab are the richest people on the planet. They are not.

You Parsiwan blame your problems on Arabs too much. Just like some Pukhtoons blame you Parsiwan for everything wrong in Afghanistan. Silly isn't it?

[Admin Khan]

Why is that when NETO/American forces kills civilians we see demonstration, bad mouth and the young boys of this form get their "blood boil" but then Pakistani dog taliban do no one even bother to mention it?

Who says they do not mention it? If Pakistan attacks Afghanistan, you will witness protests not only in Afghanistan but all over the world. Afghanistan has been invaded by the USA under the concept that its instilling democracy in the minds of the local citizens. So when this "caring" nation demonizes and tortures the local population, people riot and protest.

Were these 5 kids not human? didn't they had family? Or is it that these acts are carried by Kafirs to give the great Muslims bad name? Seriously Islam is a big shame, the sooner we get ride of this cancer the better for people.

It seems to me as if you are more geared and focused towards bashing Islam as opposed to discussing the morality behind the actions committed. Innocent people are dead, we are sad, let's call it a day. This isn't the Hitler days, wiping off 2billion people from the face of the earth is not even an idea anymore. On a more lighter note, If a Parsiwaan blows up the Eiffel Tower, would it be fair to conclude that all Parsiwaans are terrorists, cruel and immoral people? I am sure you would beg to differ, similarly,with all due respect, it would be advisable if you refrain from this blaming he said/she said game. Such strategic policies are advocated by our enemies that seek to further divide us. If you dislike Islam, fine, we can discuss why you hate it, but if your mind is already pre-configured that Islam = Terrorism, keep it to yourself. No one has put a gun to your head begging you to convert. You live in society where you have rights and freedom, I am not so sure what your problem is. However, just for the records, no where in the Quran does it say we should get up and commend people who kill innocent people.In fact, Islam speaks against killing innocent civilians. I notice you are pretty exuberant when it comes to insulting or attacking Islam but no where in the Quran does it say the Taliban are the face of Islam. Islam is a religion of ≈2billion and the action of a local group does not necessarily represent it as a whole. For example, If a student of Harvard University decides to murder your close family member, I am sure I will be sad, I will be sad, and the entire community here in PF will be sad but does that necessarily mean Harvard University is an institution that teaches people how to kill the relatives of Parsiwaan? Keep in mind, HU is Arguably the worlds number 1 University is bad. I am sure you, as a rational person, would know the answer to the above described scenario.

Another bs is when people go to Haj...seriously while our people are starving to death in Afghanistan they give their money to some already rich arab

How do you know that those people who perform Hajj do not donate? My father went to Hajj, he donates to Afghanistan as frequently as he can. By the way, Hajj has conditions as well, you should look into my dear Parsiwaan friend.

...now if we there is really equality in Islam then Kabba needs to move to each Islamic city each year.

Will you pay for the expenses of constructing a Kaaba in every Islamic city in the world? As a matter of fact, describe what's an Islamic city. I can already sense Chaos over that definition and with your proposal. The Muslims in New York will also want the Kaabah there for a year since there is an Islamic boom in NY already. In simpler terms, you are creating an unnecessary expense which is quite redundant when you think about it. Lets just think about the costs and complexity associated with shifting the Kaabah and its possibility. Do you have any clue how difficult it is to shift the Kaabah from KSA to Karachi or to lets say Kabul? What in the world does that have to do with equality anyways? Just because the Kaabah is situated in an Arab city? I am slightly confused, Is the problem with Arabs or with the Kaabah? I am still confused with your proposal but rest assured, you don't have to refute the above. I am not interested in offering a rebuttal to such a claim.

I hope you are in good health.

[parsiwaan]

The loss of these lives is tragic, but this is war, and as Sher Shah said "all is fair in love and war". Something the British borrowed but never returned.

Yea that’s the problem... until its your own family member getting killed, only then you will understand the fairness...thank god these "Kafirs" are more morals and are human beings...for they can unleashed maximum violent...that will whipped all your shytan worshiper Muslims to hell where you all belong...but no they are restraining.

Who initiated this war? The insurgency is only fighting back in defense, in whatever means possible. You are not a good parent if you slap your child for defending themselves while defending they happen to struck a passerby. That is the mentality of the defeatist, coward, and of a spineless character. You know, like the parents of a child when he/she reports abuse the parents blame the child and not the abuser.

The war started when Muslim Saddam attack Muslim Kuwaitis...from then on, the Muslim Saudi ask for US help since they thought Muslim saddam will come over to Saudi...since US is getting more then 25% of their oil from saudi they could not let this happen so they send their troops in land of Mohammad to enjoy the belly dancing by grand daughters of Mohammad ....then another Saudi got mad...he high jacked 3 plan loaded with innocent civilians and hit two building with it...in process he killed more then 3000 civilians ...and as we know the Americans value their people...specially their citizens more then anything else...American send their troops to F the OBL and their backer Taliban... the fact is American and west can wiped the whole muslim worlds out of map..they have the power, the brian and the means. Those cowards sob talibans have killed more Muslims then American soildrs…but then its part of Islam….just take a look at the Islamic history… 3 claipht rasheedn were killed for power war… what fallowed were killing, and more killing…Amawya, Abbasid, Fatimis and…. until now are barbarism, violent and filth.

As for Hajj, it's not forced, and not mandatory. The people who go to Hajj do so out of their own intentions. The cost of providing a secure, safe, and healthy environment is also immense for a country where the only primary source for the economy is crude oil. The Arabs are rich, but not that rich. There are far more richer individuals in the West who have more money then many Arab state heads. Some of them alone can feed many poor nations, yet are sitting on their monies as chickens.

Just like a true Muslim you expect form Kafirs to feed you, and maybe make your wife pregnant for you too... what is amazing is that you set in Kafirs country, eat from their welfare system, enjoy their freedom and democracy and yet you preach and justify the barbaric crimes of those murderer... you surely are a true Muslim… and I don’t blame you… its in qorhan.

This is a misconception on your part that the Arab are the richest people on the planet. They are not.

You Parsiwan blame your problems on Arabs too much. Just like some Pukhtoons blame you Parsiwan for everything wrong in Afghanistan. Silly isn't it?

Isnt arabs in Afghanistan? isn't this war cause of some Arabs that is hiding among your mothers, and sisters? I do not care about Arabs ..they are primitive and barbaric... all I’m saying is why afghans throw their money at these arabs...why go to haj anyways? What good islam has done us? From being a super power, peace loving Buddhist and Zoroastrians we have turn into the most backward, poor and miserable people on plant.

[IamDZJ]

i said BLAME THOSE WHO WILL BE PROSECUTED BY THE MAJORITY. i should say charged because prosecution by law is barely in practice in islamic countries no offense to any one.
when it comes to choosing sides between a muslim and a non muslim, a muslim will automatically choose to be in the same side as the other muslim and it will have nothing to do with the intentions of either.
a
while residing in a country where the majority of citizens claim to be God fearing muslims , he knows if he revolts against the wrong doings of a talib his chances of getting toasted sooner than later is a lot more likely than if he revolts against a non muslim. (WHICH ALSO MAKES HIM LOOK VERY GOOD!)
b
when you are about to pass on a judgment on some one you know that well, there are bound to be some consequences. consequences such as them turning around to judge you and God forbid you have more be guilty about than them.
it's something like YOU F UP BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT I F UP TOO AND NO THIRD PERSON SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO F UP AROUND HERE BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, THEY DON'T KNOW OF THE EXTENT OF WHICH WE HAVE BEEN EFFING AROUND THIS PLACE.

if they were capable of separating right from wrong, they wouldn't be wrong in the first place.

[parsiwaan]

Who says they do not mention it? If Pakistan attacks Afghanistan, you will witness protests not only in Afghanistan but all over the world. Afghanistan has been invaded by the USA under the concept that its instilling democracy in the minds of the local citizens. So when this "caring" nation demonizes and tortures the local population, people riot and protest.

That is news to me... last i check USA was in Afghanistan to kill or capture terrorist that blow world treat centers... can you educate me when USA said they want to install democracy?

It seems to me as if you are more geared and focused towards bashing Islam as opposed to discussing the morality behind the actions committed. Innocent people are dead, we are sad, let's call it a day. This isn't the Hitler days, wiping off 2billion people from the face of the earth is not even an idea anymore. On a more lighter note, If a Parsiwaan blows up the Eiffel Tower, would it be fair to conclude that all Parsiwaans are terrorists, cruel and immoral people? I am sure you would beg to differ, similarly,

with all due respect, it would be advisable if you refrain from this blaming he said/she said game. Such strategic policies are advocated by our enemies that seek to further divide us. If you dislike Islam, fine, we can discuss why you hate it, but if your mind is already pre-configured that Islam = Terrorism, keep it to yourself. No one has put a gun to your head begging you to convert. You live in society where you have rights and freedom, I am not so sure what your problem is. However, just for the records, no where in the Quran does it say we should get up and commend people who kill innocent people.In fact, Islam speaks against killing innocent civilians. I notice you are pretty exuberant when it comes to insulting or attacking Islam but no where in the Quran does it say the Taliban are the face of Islam. Islam is a religion of ≈2billion and the action of a local group does not necessarily represent it as a whole. For example, If a student of Harvard University decides to murder your close family member, I am sure I will be sad, I will be sad, and the entire community here in PF will be sad but does that necessarily mean Harvard University is an institution that teaches people how to kill the relatives of Parsiwaan? Keep in mind, HU is Arguably the worlds number 1 University is bad. I am sure you, as a rational person, would know the answer to the above described scenario.How do you know that those people who perform Hajj do not donate? My father went to Hajj, he donates to Afghanistan as frequently as he can. By the way, Hajj has conditions as well, you should look into my dear Parsiwaan friend.
Will you pay for the expenses of constructing a Kaaba in every Islamic city in the world? As a matter of fact, describe what's an Islamic city. I can already sense Chaos over that definition and with your proposal. The Muslims in New York will also want the Kaabah there for a year since there is an Islamic boom in NY already. In simpler terms, you are creating an unnecessary expense which is quite redundant when you think about it. Lets just think about the costs and complexity associated with shifting the Kaabah and its possibility. Do you have any clue how difficult it is to shift the Kaabah from KSA to Karachi or to lets say Kabul? What in the world does that have to do with equality anyways? Just because the Kaabah is situated in an Arab city? I am slightly confused, Is the problem with Arabs or with the Kaabah? I am still confused with your proposal but rest assured, you don't have to refute the above. I am not interested in offering a rebuttal to such a claim.

I hope you are in good health.

I can point to passage of qorhan that says to kill kafirs...that is what the taliban are doing.... they are fallowing Qorhan to every words....anyway since majority of people here are Muslim... i will not discuss this anymore... I will end this with a simple wish people realize the danger of this Arab imperialism--Islam.

[Admin Khan]

I can point to passage of qorhan that says to kill kafirs...that is what the taliban are doing.... they are fallowing Qorhan to every words....anyway since majority of people here are Muslim... i will not discuss this anymore... I will end this with a simple wish people realize the danger of this Arab imperialism--Islam.

Majority people being Muslim here don't mean anything. You have equal rights here just like anyone else. If you wish to discuss this, you are more than welcome to. This site revolves around education, we can learn from one another. Make a topic, post your misconceptions, our competent members will attempt to address you respectfully. You aren't the only non-Muslim here. There are many and I mean non-Muslims on PF.


There isn't any silent beef around here, aight?

[parsiwaan]

i said BLAME THOSE WHO WILL BE PROSECUTED BY THE MAJORITY. i should say charged because prosecution by law is barely in practice in islamic countries no offense to any one.
when it comes to choosing sides between a muslim and a non muslim, a muslim will automatically choose to be in the same side as the other muslim and it will have nothing to do with the intentions of either.
a
while residing in a country where the majority of citizens claim to be God fearing muslims , he knows if he revolts against the wrong doings of a talib his chances of getting toasted sooner than later is a lot more likely than if he revolts against a non muslim. (WHICH ALSO MAKES HIM LOOK VERY GOOD!)
b
when you are about to pass on a judgment on some one you know that well, there are bound to be some consequences. consequences such as them turning around to judge you and God forbid you have more be guilty about than them.
it's something like YOU F UP BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT I F UP TOO AND NO THIRD PERSON SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO F UP AROUND HERE BECAUSE LET'S FACE IT, THEY DON'T KNOW OF THE EXTENT OF WHICH WE HAVE BEEN EFFING AROUND THIS PLACE.

if they were capable of separating right from wrong, they wouldn't be wrong in the first place.

100% agreed. This is why i called them hypocrites...when arab invaded our region of world, their mottos were All Islam is tatul Saieef.(Islam is under sword.) Fear is a big part in Muslims culture... this is why i blame the source ..not the people.. this is why i think the culture is not ready to accept justice for all, and human rights. This is why Plato definition of morality---“The Republic” does not hold true in Muslim worlds. In Muslim worlds might is right.”

[Wrayun]

Yea that’s the problem... until its your own family member getting killed, only then you will understand the fairness...thank god these "Kafirs" are more morals and are human beings...for they can unleashed maximum violent...that will whipped all your shytan worshiper Muslims to hell where you all belong...but no they are restraining.

What if my family is already affected, would it make any difference in what I stated?

The war started when Muslim Saddam attack Muslim Kuwaitis...from then on, the Muslim Saudi ask for US help since they thought Muslim saddam will come over to Saudi...since US is getting more then 25% of their oil from saudi they could not let this happen so they send their troops in land of Mohammad to enjoy the belly dancing by grand daughters of Mohammad ....then another Saudi got mad...he high jacked 3 plan loaded with innocent civilians and hit two building with it...in process he killed more then 3000 civilians ...and as we know the Americans value their people...specially their citizens more then anything else...American send their troops to F the OBL and their backer Taliban... the fact is American and west can wiped the whole muslim worlds out of map..they have the power, the brian and the means. Those cowards sob talibans have killed more Muslims then American soildrs…but then its part of Islam….just take a look at the Islamic history… 3 claipht rasheedn were killed for power war… what fallowed were killing, and more killing…Amawya, Abbasid, Fatimis and…. until now are barbarism, violent and filth.

Just like a true Muslim you expect form Kafirs to feed you, and maybe make your wife pregnant for you too... what is amazing is that you set in Kafirs country, eat from their welfare system, enjoy their freedom and democracy and yet you preach and justify the barbaric crimes of those murderer... you surely are a true Muslim… and I don’t blame you… its in qorhan.

You are assuming too much on behalf of Muslims and I. It almost sounds as if you are ranting.

Isnt arabs in Afghanistan? isn't this war cause of some Arabs that is hiding among your mothers, and sisters? I do not care about Arabs ..they are primitive and barbaric... all I’m saying is why afghans throw their money at these arabs...why go to haj anyways? What good islam has done us? From being a super power, peace loving Buddhist and Zoroastrians we have turn into the most backward, poor and miserable people on plant.

Arabs are not hiding amongst our mother and sisters parsiwan jon, Arabs and their mothers and sisters are hiding amongst us. And no, there is no proof of any Arab that is hiding or living amongst Afghans/Pukhtoons who were involved with Sep.11. There were 19 Saudi hijackers, but Afghanistan was attacked, while the Bush kissed the Saudi Amir on his bootylicious lips. Taliban were the ruling government of the day, they asked for proof, none was provided, an offensive was launched, which is now in stalemate, if that's what you want to call it, but I like to say that the insurgency is winning. Iraq was invaded, no WMDs, Saddam was hanged, his two sons butchered, oil prices profits and CASH!!!! bling bling bang bang.

Which planet are you living on? Planet Fox?

[khushal]

Why is that when NETO/American forces kills civilians we see demonstration, bad mouth and the young boys of this form get their "blood boil" but then Pakistani dog taliban do no one even bother to mention it? Were these 5 kids not human? didn't they had family? Or is it that these acts are carried by Kafirs to give the great Muslims bad name? Seriously Islam is a big shame, the sooner we get ride of this cancer the better for people.
Another bs is when people go to Haj...seriously while our people are starving to death in Afghanistan they give their money to some already rich arab...now if we there is really equality in Islam then Kabba needs to move to each Islamic city each year.
Funny part is how tens of people die in demonstrating the burning of qorhan by some westerners... is a copy of qorhan worth more then life of 1 person? What the hell is this savage, primitive nomadic imperialism known as islam.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=94657615

The majority of the world is evil and hypocritical including yourself by revealing your hate instead of your love for the innocent. Do you know the history of the parsiban empire and how cruel it was. Do you know the history of the British empire and how cruel it was. Do you know the history of the american empire and how cruel it was and some aspects still is.
You have been brainwashed into thinking the ones with power are the the saints and the ones with no power are the ones that are evil. If you lived in germany in the 30's and early 40's, you would be the one that would be killing the jews and the gypsies just because of their ethnicity because you are so naive into beleiving whatever the ones in power is telling you.
Free yourself and think independently and make the parsibans proud of you.