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    Whom the Afghan People Sided With? With the Islamic Emirate or …?
    UNAMA and other Western and internal stooge entities which were delegated to conduct the so-called parliamentary elections on Sept. 18, had earlier predicted that only in 30% area of Afghanistan, the situation would be ready for holding the elections.

    Reason: the security problems. But on the day of the polling, people witnessed that even that prediction did not come true. Less than 10% voters took part in the ridiculous American drama by casting their votes. The low turn-out can be ascribed to fear and wide-spread rigging.

    The Americans and their allies spent $ 200 million dollars to maintain security and conduct other clandestine dealing of bribery etc. in order to bring to success the fake elections process. They deployed 300,000 foreign and domestic soldiers on the polling day to make safe the few polling stations and pave the way for voters to cast votes. All these notwithstanding, with the help of Allah (SwT) and the assistance of Mujahideen with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, the so-called elections were disrupted and thus remained limited to a few cities. Therefore, have had derogatory results for the implementers. We would like to leave alone hundreds of events which evidently prove our claim. Instead, we deem it suffice to mention examples of only two elections centers as the tip of the iceberg: a district elections center in Ghazni and an election center in a populated village in Logar province. Now all those with insight and sagacity can judge for themselves that what will be the credibility of the elections and the next parliament after all that shameful cases that happened on the day of the polling.

    More than 300,000 people are living in Andar district of Ghazni province. The officials and observers at the polling stations admitted themselves that only 3 voters cast their votes during the day despite the fact that the polling station had remained open the whole day. In Pad khwab Shana, 3 kilometers in proximity of the provincial center, Pullie Allam, with population reaching 30,000 persons, only 250 ballots were cast. That too, because of tribal affiliation, bribery, coercion and material incentives.
    Other reports from various parts of the country say that no polling station had been opened in 162 districts out of 360 districts of the country. 1260 polling stations were forced to close before 11o’clock of the day. Voting process was disrupted in the remaining polling stations due to successful attacks of the Mujahideen. Not only the people did not participate in the elections but remained at their houses as a sign of opposition to the so-called elections. After 4 o’clock of the day, in the dusk time, when the official time ended for ballot casting, Mujahideen ambushed ballot boxes which were being hauled from a few city centers to the capital of the country. They were torched and destroyed.

    Now the world, the UNAMA and the observers can decide what credibility these fake and failed elections will have? They should also ponder whether they are going to give importance to the voice of the majority people of Afghanistan or to the subservient media, the pre-planned commentaries and the distorted news items about the elections? Similarly, they should make clear whom the Afghan people sided with—with the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, or with America, UNAMA and the stooge Kabul Administration?

  • #2
    please don't ignor what i post say what u think !!
    i think alot of u don't have excuses now !!
    by the way isaf arrested 2 Interviewers of aljazzerra chanel and other chanel's
    with out reason's :P

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    • #3
      At first I thought YOU composed this, Fahd.

      It sounds like an informal release by Public Relations section of the IE [Islamic Emirate, not Internet Explorer!]

      I'm glad they torched the ballots. Maybe that will send a clear message that the entire effort to turn a country that does NOT WANT to be a good little model 'democracy' is wasted.

      Notice how heavy the American media coverage always is when there are 'Afghan elections'. As if nothing else happened in the country for the last 5 months or year or whatever since the last 'election'.

      I resent that unilateral focus of American officialdom. As if Afghans are not worth anything other than to show the world how successful the occupation of the country has been.

      The only OTHER headlines are when there's something to shock Americans who have not heard of any other cultures. Hence are grossed out by some event in traditional quarters in Afghanistan. The average American citizen of today, especially younger generations, barely could place France on a map, they are SO ignorant and so uncaring to learn about the rest of the world.

      Very easy targets for the media blitz to prove to Americans who are brought up to have faith not in God but in Voting, Elections, Political Parties. No other alternative is ever given or explained in the media. Or in textbooks. Monarchies are considered barbaric, tyrannical, etc. And Islamic Govt! That's Anathema for ALL strata of America to tolerate. The question not for America, but for any countries, the first reaction is a screech: NO!!! They can't have that!!!! We'll do anything to stop it!! This is what motivates American foreign policy in the Islamic world. Perhaps this hysterical dread of Islamic govt is what drives the - rather tyrannical ! - decision that Afghans must have elections. Why? No good reason ever needed to be given to a home audience of Americans raised this way and nearly incapable of understanding other systems: political, cultural, historical. Most especially Islamic ones, which are about as congenial as Martians landing on earth for the average American with no exposure to the huge Muslim world except through the slanted lens of the US education system and the myopic US media.

      Hence easy to brainwash Americans with all this news coverage on the latest Cool Afghan Women Candidates. With background on Pakistani women fighter pilots or some such diversion of attention from the most crucial ways to truly help Afghanistan. Leave the scene, stop the charades of elections. Give them their own freedom to operate on their own is the best answer!]

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Catya Sher View Post
        At first I thought YOU composed this, Fahd.

        It sounds like an informal release by Public Relations section of the IE [Islamic Emirate, not Internet Explorer!]

        I'm glad they torched the ballots. Maybe that will send a clear message that the entire effort to turn a country that does NOT WANT to be a good little model 'democracy' is wasted.

        Notice how heavy the American media coverage always is when there are 'Afghan elections'. As if nothing else happened in the country for the last 5 months or year or whatever since the last 'election'.

        I resent that unilateral focus of American officialdom. As if Afghans are not worth anything other than to show the world how successful the occupation of the country has been.

        The only OTHER headlines are when there's something to shock Americans who have not heard of any other cultures. Hence are grossed out by some event in traditional quarters in Afghanistan. The average American citizen of today, especially younger generations, barely could place France on a map, they are SO ignorant and so uncaring to learn about the rest of the world.

        Very easy targets for the media blitz to prove to Americans who are brought up to have faith not in God but in Voting, Elections, Political Parties. No other alternative is ever given or explained in the media. Or in textbooks. Monarchies are considered barbaric, tyrannical, etc. And Islamic Govt! That's Anathema for ALL strata of America to tolerate. The question not for America, but for any countries, the first reaction is a screech: NO!!! They can't have that!!!! We'll do anything to stop it!! This is what motivates American foreign policy in the Islamic world. Perhaps this hysterical dread of Islamic govt is what drives the - rather tyrannical ! - decision that Afghans must have elections. Why? No good reason ever needed to be given to a home audience of Americans raised this way and nearly incapable of understanding other systems: political, cultural, historical. Most especially Islamic ones, which are about as congenial as Martians landing on earth for the average American with no exposure to the huge Muslim world except through the slanted lens of the US education system and the myopic US media.

        Hence easy to brainwash Americans with all this news coverage on the latest Cool Afghan Women Candidates. With background on Pakistani women fighter pilots or some such diversion of attention from the most crucial ways to truly help Afghanistan. Leave the scene, stop the charades of elections. Give them their own freedom to operate on their own is the best answer!]
        no i get it from islamic emarh site, taliban site
        http://www.shahamat.info/
        it have like 5 or 6 langauge
        u r right about what u said ( i understand like 70% about what u said and it's sounds good lol )

        and the red word's that what taliban islamic emarh want
        they told karazai if u want from us to stop and talk u must clear this country from ISAF and NATO (ofcurs when karazai told them to stop they said that )

        i know taliban did wrong thing's in past (there was alot of ppl who join taliban and they was lil bit idiot and crazy mybe lol but now they know what the right thing's they learon about they past wrongs

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        • #5
          This is just Taliban propaganda which means Pakistani propaganda.

          First of all the turn out from independent sources was 40 percent not 10 percent. Second which is more important is that, all those efforts which help urbanise,industrialise and democratise Afghanistan should be supported and appreciated even if they are from an imperialist country like US.

          Afghans need to understand that no country is all right and no country is all wrong. States deal with other states based on mutual interest. Hence it will be foolish to evaluate the dealing with a state based on religeous creeds and moral principles.

          Afghans are practically a little more developed than the stone age but they expect that their rulers and governors should be just one degree less than the ideal govt of Khulafa e Rashideen or the one speculated by Plato in his ideal republic or by thomas moore in his utopia.

          It is so sad to know that the expectations level of our Afghan brothers and sisters is highly un realistic. They fail to realise that AFGHANISTAN IS IN AN INTERIM PERIOD IN WHICH IT HAS TO PROGRESS FROM THE DEVSTATION OF THIRTY YEARS OF IMPOSED WAR AND CANNOT AFFORD TO COME UPTO THE IDEAL EXPECTATIONS OF ITS CITIZENS IN THIS PERIOD.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by muhsina View Post
            This is just Taliban propaganda which means Pakistani propaganda.

            First of all the turn out from independent sources was 40 percent not 10 percent. Second which is more important is that, all those efforts which help urbanise,industrialise and democratise Afghanistan should be supported and appreciated even if they are from an imperialist country like US.

            Afghans need to understand that no country is all right and no country is all wrong. States deal with other states based on mutual interest. Hence it will be foolish to evaluate the dealing with a state based on religeous creeds and moral principles.

            Afghans are practically a little more developed than the stone age but they expect that their rulers and governors should be just one degree less than the ideal govt of Khulafa e Rashideen or the one speculated by Plato in his ideal republic or by thomas moore in his utopia.

            It is so sad to know that the expectations level of our Afghan brothers and sisters is highly un realistic. They fail to realise that AFGHANISTAN IS IN AN INTERIM PERIOD IN WHICH IT HAS TO PROGRESS FROM THE DEVSTATION OF THIRTY YEARS OF IMPOSED WAR AND CANNOT AFFORD TO COME UPTO THE IDEAL EXPECTATIONS OF ITS CITIZENS IN THIS PERIOD.
            taliban hate pakistan more than any one but they can't say it clear
            USA media make that taliban work for pakistan because they want afghans hate taliban please understand it well !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            u can't say 40 because media say that !!
            do u know that ISAF ARRESTED 2 interviwer because they take alot of pic from the real war btw taliban and how they dead alot of soldier from ISAF
            u r just watching that's dirty news from dirty chanales
            please sister ask ur cousin's in afg if u have cousin's there
            and tell us what they said

            i can tell u that 80-90% from afghans to taliban side in afghanistan
            and who are in europa mand midel east they are lil bit diffrent
            i think who should decaid who live his life in afg all time
            i think in that
            Last edited by Guest; 09-22-2010, 08:33 PM.

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            • #7
              Fahd you seem to be a youngster and have to get over a lot of mental hurdles. Please read my post two to three times with multiple pauses. The last few lines of your post were in spranto hence I could not understand them however I understood what was at the back of your mind so hope to talk about the same time after a couple of years.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by muhsina View Post
                Fahd you seem to be a youngster and have to get over a lot of mental hurdles. Please read my post two to three times with multiple pauses. The last few lines of your post were in spranto hence I could not understand them however I understood what was at the back of your mind so hope to talk about the same time after a couple of years.
                u r right mybe im lil bit young but belive me i know what im talking about
                ( about last lines sorry ma eng it's not not good lol i was saying that who Deserves to Decides about afg more than us who born and live in afg
                yes we can Decides but they Deserves more than us )
                inshallah we will talk about it and i can tell u im sure 200% about taliban
                u will see and all the world will see inshallah

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jasmine
                  Taliban themselves had good ideas but ultimately they served Pakistan interests and served as Pakistani proxies.

                  Low-level to mid-level are great people who wish to see Afghanistan prosper, I have met many mid-level commanders of Kandahar[Capital of Afghanistan] but when we begin talking about high level commanders, they are mostly on the round table negotiating with ISI.
                  can u give me aproof of what u saying jasmine sis ?
                  u get this from media
                  i think media lie all the time about taliban
                  i can't belive what the media said never never
                  mullah omer said his only real story

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fahd View Post
                    can u give me aproof of what u saying jasmine sis ?
                    u get this from media
                    i think media lie all the time about taliban
                    i can't belive what the media said never never
                    mullah omer said his only real story
                    Where do you get your information from?
                    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                      Where do you get your information from?
                      from this site
                      http://www.shahamat.info/
                      it's belong to taliban
                      they dare all wqorld media to come to watch whats the real and what the lie

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Fahd View Post
                        from this site
                        http://www.shahamat.info/
                        it's belong to taliban
                        they dare all wqorld media to come to watch whats the real and what the lie
                        Isn't that media as well?

                        You said,

                        u get this from media
                        i think media lie all the time
                        So when media fits your interests, Its ok. But when it goes against your political views, its flawed and propaganda? can I safely conclude that? A user might say what you posted is propaganda, and FoxNews said this and that.
                        Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                        A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                        For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                        The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                        -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                          Isn't that media as well?

                          You said,



                          So when media fits your interests, Its ok. But when it goes against your political views, its flawed and propaganda? can I safely conclude that? A user might say what you posted is propaganda, and FoxNews said this and that.
                          mybe i misunderstand what i mean about media
                          ok i can tell u which media im talking about
                          chanel's and the most famous media
                          i can tell u that my cousin's tell me what happening in afg
                          i have alot of cousin's who live in ghezni ,wardak,kapul and they go to all states in the country
                          i have cousins who hate taliban but they hate them because they are bad lol

                          i get alot info until belive of what i belive in
                          ( i can tell u i would love to see afg great country and taliban get the king place but i can't tell u that i will live all my life in afg because i can't live all my life in place like saudia )
                          u know im young and looking for fun but i know whats the right and the wrong i don't wanna to my all afghan bro and sis live bad life's but if they don't want to live in islamic emarh they can leav to other country

                          damn u can't understand what im saying right !!

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                          • #14
                            admin media ?
                            which media u know and u watch the news in ?
                            u said foxnews
                            that what i was mean the media u ppl watch and read is europa and US and afghan ( us ofcurs don't lie if the goverment belong to US what about media lol)
                            that's media start the war with u

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jasmine
                              Fahd he never said he watches Fox news. He was trying to teach you a lesson that media is all media. what appeals to you might not appeal to me. you cant just this media I wont accept but this media I will.

                              You have to study what you read. Verify what you read.
                              damn mybe im mistaken when i post in english

                              but come on jasmin u know what i mean that media have to say good thing's
                              can u tell me why ISAF don't leave the media to catch all what they want ?
                              i think u know that ISAF arrested 2 afghan Journalist in this week for nothing ?
                              right ???
                              why !!! (because they get some pic from the war that make ISAF weak and lie all the time about what they media said ?
                              do u hear that ?
                              i will make new theard now for u and admin

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