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  • #76
    Originally posted by Maiwand View Post
    They are enemies of each other now, even if some good persons inside the ISI were helping the mujahideen in the past.
    So why couldn't you just simply answer this than instead trying discredit me with Ayah's?

    So where are the good ISI now and what makes you think ISI is not helping Taliban now? Who are good ISI and bad ISI?

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    • #77
      Stay the course, Khyal. We are getting somewhere.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by khyaal View Post
        Who told you Khawarij acted contrary to the commands of Allah (swt)? Can you prove it?
        It is proven from many ahadith of the prophet (pbum) that nobody can rise up against a legitimate Islamic authority or Ameer. The Khawarij did exactly that, so they have acted against the command of the messenger. And whomsoever follows the messenger follows Allah (swt), as the Quran says: Obey God and obey the messenger. And whomsoever acts contrary to the commandment of the messenger has acted contrary to the shariah of Allah (swt). The Taliban are fighting against an illegitimate, apostate government, which is helped and supported by the crusaders. So they are on the truth and acting according to the shariah.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
          So why couldn't you just simply answer this than instead trying discredit me with Ayah's?

          So where are the good ISI now and what makes you think ISI is not helping Taliban now? Who are good ISI and bad ISI?
          Well it is very simple, the government of pakistan has declared war against the islamic emirate and they have collided with the disbelievers against the muslims of afghanistan. They have helped the crusaders a lot, including the ISI. CIA has one of its biggest bases in Islamabad. The ISI is under the command of CIA. They are the puppets of America. So if in this situation a ISI agent is actually a double-agent and acts contrary to the policy of his government and his master America and supports the mujahideen, the propability of this is very low, cosidering that they are getting their salaries from america and can't move without the permission of america, CIA and black-water and other security companies. Then that "ISI-man" will be a good human and good muslim. But otherwise he will be a disbelieving puppt apostate which will go to hell if killed by the mujahideen.

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          • #80
            But Taliban too were illegitimate, they took control through naked force with the help of the apostates of ISI and are still working for them.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Maiwand View Post
              Well it is very simple, the government of pakistan has declared war against the islamic emirate and they have collided with the disbelievers against the muslims of afghanistan. They have helped the crusaders a lot, including the ISI. CIA has one of its biggest bases in Islamabad. The ISI is under the command of CIA. They are the puppets of America. So if in this situation a ISI agent is actually a double-agent and acts contrary to the policy of his government and his master America and supports the mujahideen, the propability of this is very low, cosidering that they are getting their salaries from america and can't move without the permission of america, CIA and black-water and other security companies. Then that "ISI-man" will be a good human and good muslim. But otherwise he will be a disbelieving puppt apostate which will go to hell if killed by the mujahideen.
              Wow wow. Hold on lets be clear. Explain the above and stick to this, please.

              Why would they be acting as double agents?

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              • #82
                Originally posted by khyaal View Post
                But Taliban too were illegitimate, they took control through naked force with the help of the apostates of ISI and are still working for them.
                ahahha, you seem to have lost all sense of reality. You deem a government illegitimate to were Afghans, supported by the majority of muslims and were against looting, insecurity, commanded the good and forbade the wrong, acted according the shariah, even when they had small mistakes. But you deem a government of looters, criminals, apostates, filthy war-lords and pedophiles as legitimate? Have you lost all your sense of dignity, humanity, religiousity, morals and faith?

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                • #83
                  How the heck can you tell us that foremidble agency such as ISI cannot move without American permission. The degree of collaboration with America is carried out in the light of self-interest.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                    Wow wow. Hold on lets be clear. Explain the above and stick to this, please.

                    Why would they be acting as double agents?
                    Everyone who acts contrary to the policies of his goverment or agency and supports his official enemy is a double-agent and khayen. It is as simple as that.

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                    • #85
                      Maiwand, are and Sangar by the way same person? lol

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                        Maiwand, are and Sangar by the way same person? lol
                        you have really a conspiracy theory mind-set. We are not the same persons, but what we are saying is the same truth!

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Maiwand View Post
                          Everyone who acts contrary to the policies of his goverment or agency and supports his official enemy is a double-agent and khayen. It is as simple as that.
                          You are confusing, forgive me. Who is acting against the official policy of of his government and agency, and what are those official policies? Many thanks.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                            How the heck can you tell us that foremidble agency such as ISI cannot move without American permission. The degree of collaboration with America is carried out in the light of self-interest.
                            ahaha and you think american doesn't know about that and still supports them?

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by ComradePashtun View Post
                              You are confusing, forgive me. Who is acting against the official policy of of his government and agency, and what are those official policies? Many thanks.
                              The ISI men who according to you are supporting the Taliban. Well the official policy and the reason they have become puppets and dogs of america is because they are fighting a war on their behalf and killing their own muslims inside pakistan and indirectly outside of it.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Maiwand View Post
                                ahahha, you seem to have lost all sense of reality. You deem a government illegitimate to were Afghans, supported by the majority of muslims and were against looting, insecurity, commanded the good and forbade the wrong, acted according the shariah, even when they had small mistakes. But you deem a government of looters, criminals, apostates, filthy war-lords and pedophiles as legitimate? Have you lost all your sense of dignity, humanity, religiousity, morals and faith?
                                Ta da Talibano da hukoomat na sa khabar ye. Ta kho pa maghribee aw da kafirno pa mulk ki dera ye aw da haghwee pa wazeefo wakht tera wi, dalta rasha aw jihad woka, tashe khabare khwand na kawee.

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