The Leader of the believers : Mullah Muhammad Umar ( hafidahullah)

[شمله ور خراساني]

Maiwand,

Agreed and we are not discussing god. And don't come here and be dismissive of the ISI nexus and avoid this. I hate it when people like you hypocritically avoid and detrack from a simple debate and takes refuge to god instead. That is cowardice, ok. Be straight forward.

the reason why he brings quran and allah into this is because this is a matter of al walaa wal baraa.

Munafiqeen have baraa for the muslims and walaa for the kuffaar.

People who spread lies and speak evil of amirul momineen are clearly verging on nifaaq. So it is necessary to remind people of kitab and sunnah so they might repent

[khyaal]

You can't resolve issues by reciting Ayah from Quran e Pak, even Suhaba couldn't solve their political disputes that way, and you know about it if you have heard about
Jung e Jamal and Jung e Siffin.

[Maiwand]

Maiwand,

Agreed and we are not discussing god. And don't come here and be dismissive of the ISI nexus and avoid this. I hate it when people like you hypocritically avoid and detrack from a simple debate and takes refuge to god instead. That is cowardice, ok. Be straight forward.

No, that's my point exactly. You people think that the only way why the Taliban could suvive and even even the war against America and NATO, is because they must have got some kind of material support from another country. But that's the main fault in your thinking. You are thinking from a materialistic and worldly perspective. You are removing God, morals, islam from the equation.

But the Taliban and every true muslims believes in God and the Quran as the word of God. So if God makes some promisses in the Quran, then a muslim believes in them and acts accordingly. So if God says in the Quran that material strength is not the only factor why a muslim army will defeat the disbelievers in battle, then we must belief that. That's because God gives help to the believers. And even if the whole world is against them and their are weak and few in numbers, even then they will win the war when they have a strong imaan (belief) and trust in Allah (swt). Of course many will become shaheed and go straight to paradise, but those who are remaining will achieve victory over their enemies.

[شمله ور خراساني]

You can't resolve issues by reciting Ayah from Quran e Pak, even Suhaba couldn't solve their political disputes that way, and you know about it if you have heard about
Jung e Jamal and Jung e Siffin.

suhaba? LOL

At least they adhered to quran and sunnah. You adhere to Kharzai and Amreeka.

[akbarkhan]

BTW, how come Mula Omar be a friend of Pakis when we the people of Occupiied Pakhtunkhwa are living like slave in Pakistan?

You, the people of 'Pakhtunkhwa' choose to live like slaves in Pakistan. I met a brother outside the mosque today, he was selling books, attar and leather socks. He asked where I came from, to which I replied Afghanistan. He smiled and I asked him, how about you brother? He said Pakistan, so I said 'phir tu urdu bolsakte ho'. He declined and started talking in Pashto, I stood there thinking - same blood courses through mine and his veins so exactly why does he call himself a Pakistani!?

Get my drift?

Note: I don't know Omar, neither do I care about him.

[ComradePashtun]

the reason why he brings quran and allah into this is because this is a matter of al walaa wal baraa.

Munafiqeen have baraa for the muslims and walaa for the kuffaar.

People who spread lies and speak evil of amirul momineen are clearly verging on nifaaq. So it is necessary to remind people of kitab and sunnah so they might repent

Sangar lala,

Ta tsa waye aw za tsa wayum. Please give up this pressumption that others not muslims and you are better. I am a muslim, alahmdulilah. My observation and analysis are taken in an objective manner. I have never called Taliban puppets but I have clearly criticised them when I think it is due and right. We should always seek betterment and we criticise ourselves. I want the best for Taliban as Afghans and for our country. Please no shenanigans.

I know the Taliban and Porkistan relation. Are you denying it?

[khyaal]

You, the people of 'Pakhtunkhwa' choose to live like slaves in Pakistan. I met a brother outside the mosque today, he was selling books, attar and leather socks. He asked where I came from, to which I replied Afghanistan. He smiled and I asked him, how about you brother? He said Pakistan, so I said 'phir tu urdu bolsakte ho'. He declined and started talking in Pashto, I stood there thinking - same blood courses through mine and his veins so exactly why does he call himself a Pakistani!?

Get my drift?

Note: I don't know Omar, neither do I care about him.

And you have answered yourself, that is what slavery brings with it, a total alienation to your own people. That is why the stability of Afghanistan is so important what it may cost.

[akbarkhan]

I know the Taliban and Porkistan relation. Are you denying it?

To state that Taliban once had good relation with Pakistan is a fact, considering the current situation in that region of the world such 'facts' don't hold water hence they are porky pies.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Sangar lala,

Ta tsa waye aw za tsa wayum. Please give up this pressumption that others not muslims and you are better. I am a muslim, alahmdulilah. My observation and analysis are taken in an objective manner. I have never called Taliban puppets but I have clearly criticised them when I think it is due and right. We should always seek betterment and we criticise ourselves. I want the best for Taliban as Afghans and for our country. Please no shenanigans.

I know the Taliban and Porkistan relation. Are you denying it?

[ComradePashtun]

suhaba? LOL

At least they adhered to quran and sunnah. You adhere to Kharzai and Amreeka.

Then once say yo adhere to ISI and the dark side of the Taliban cult which have earned title for ignorance, savagery and barbarity. Now that is not entirely true is it?

Deal with people properly once.

[شمله ور خراساني]

And you have answered yourself, that is what slavery brings with it, a total alienation to your own people. That is why the stability of Afghanistan is so important what it may cost.

funny a supporter of America is speaking of slavery.

[ComradePashtun]

No, that's my point exactly. You people think that the only way why the Taliban could suvive and even even the war against America and NATO, is because they must have got some kind of material support from another country. But that's the main fault in your thinking. You are thinking from a materialistic and worldly perspective. You are removing God, morals, islam from the equation.

But the Taliban and every true muslims believes in God and the Quran as the word of God. So if God makes some promisses in the Quran, then a muslim believes in them and acts accordingly. So if God says in the Quran that material strength is not the only factor why a muslim army will defeat the disbelievers in battle, then we must belief that. That's because God gives help to the believers. And even if the whole world is against them and their are weak and few in numbers, even then they will win the war when they have a strong imaan (belief) and trust in Allah (swt). Of course many will become shaheed and go straight to paradise, but those who are remaining will achieve victory over their enemies.

No, I am sorry if you still think like that then you are a fool. I am just saying that why do you deny that ISI is helping and also back-stabbing Taliban?

[شمله ور خراساني]

[khyaal]

funny a supporter of America is speaking of slavery.

What is so funny about it if it is not funny to become an agent of their agents.

[akbarkhan]

And you have answered yourself, that is what slavery brings with it, a total alienation to your own people. That is why the stability of Afghanistan is so important what it may cost.

Actually, I have never said that you are not a slave infact I have confirmed it. As long as you remain son of the hour aka ibn ul wakht then you are not going to prosper nor will your brethren.