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Bangladesh was a total different matter .. Their was no connection between the East and the West Pakistan and it was done by all the Power Hungry people like Z.A Bhutto and Mujeeb Ur Rehman
Now lets talk about Pakistan and Afghanistan amalgamated together under one federation .. A very large number of Pakhtuns will give us more power over the state .. and yes we will be the emerging power of the South Asia
yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!
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Originally posted by Wrayun View PostPakistan and Afghanistan must become one country?
Agha walay, bya bo da pa Afghanano pa noom Pakistan leaderan dunya na khairat tola yee? Pakistan kho pela zan sambal ke che Afghanistan tah 'em lass acha yee.
As per the same logic we can go and say che Afghanistan na current area na sambalegi nu Pakhtunkhwa sala ghwari :p
I know you are right with your point but than my counter argument is also a true one .. yawa bala khabar our Idea of Pak-Afghan state is that it will be governed by a federation having a bunch of senior gentelmen from both side
yao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!
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Shehbaz Khan,
Loy Afghanistan and Loy Pakistan, same thing. I am more in favor of Pukhtoonkhwa, whether an autonomous region or independent nation. Joining all Pukhtoons to either of these nations is a catastrophe. If Loy Afghanistan, Pukhtoons will be assimilated by Dari. If Loy Pakistan, Pukhtoons will be assimilated by Hindustani (Urdu).I know you are right with your point but than my counter argument is also a true one .. yawa bala khabar our Idea of Pak-Afghan state is that it will be governed by a federation having a bunch of senior gentelmen from both side
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Now Again Listen My Idea is neither of Loy Afghanistan nor of Loy Pakistan .. Infact Loy Pakistan will disturb the boundaries of Afghanistan and Loy Afghanistan will disturb Pakistan .. Why not a mutual co-existance under the same federation
And yes if you talk about Pakhtoonsitan than you need to Get away from the non-pakhtun majority areas of Afghanistanyao warokay ghwandi baagh ao pa khwa ye seen rawan!
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Afghanistan wants a mutual co-existence, it's Pakistan that has carved itself a strategic anti-India Afghan policy which makes things harder for Afghans to rebuild their nation. It is true that in the past there have been elements within Afghanistan that has promoted separatists ideas in Pakistan, but they weren't as serious as what Pakistan is doing today. Not only Afghans, but many Pakistanis are tired of Pakistani policies that have greatly destroyed Pakistan image internationally. The ball is in Pakistan's court, they have ties to the Afghan Taliban and they can do more to bring peace to the region.
Pakistan should show compassion towards its Muslim neighbor and its own citizens, and bring an end to this ugly chapter once and for all.
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shahbaz khana wrora in the present estalishment pashtun are divided into pieces, half of occupied pashtunkhwah is taken by panjab, look at the tribal region, lets forget about pashtun for moment. i dont think your failed state can keep the present areas under its controle. you should be worrying about kashmir and baluchistan. pashtun are targetted by all means state sponsored terrorism and by the army. its another dream. lets put our mind into uniting our pashtun brothers on each sides.Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View PostBangladesh was a total different matter .. Their was no connection between the East and the West Pakistan and it was done by all the Power Hungry people like Z.A Bhutto and Mujeeb Ur Rehman
Now lets talk about Pakistan and Afghanistan amalgamated together under one federation .. A very large number of Pakhtuns will give us more power over the state .. and yes we will be the emerging power of the South Asia
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There is already a thread on this......when I find the link I will post it. Long story short as of now this idea is not viable. It will be at the expense of Pashtuns and they will just increase their strategic depth further into our areas. Mung da Pakistan khpl raakaagao ao thaso mung baertha ba dae kae raagaddawaee...ajjb khalk yae.
Loy Pakistan is a zero concept idea...there was one idea of a confederation but the muslim leaguers themselves sidelined their idea (obviously angraezaano che na praekhodha).
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This is a logical fallacy and I have noticed this get peddled around way too much. Loy Afghanistan is based on the concept that the Afghan watan was split into two halves by the British. The eastern Half was further split into 4. Now as the British are gone and the cold war is over, there is no need for our areas to be divided. Hence the Afghan watan should be reunified. The fact that tajiks, uzbek,s hindkos, chitrali, etc live there is not the basis of this land. It isn't because x is more livable and y is. It has to do with certain historical and political realities of the region.Originally posted by Sherbano View PostI have been following this site for awhile and I have seen that a "Loy Afghanistan" which would include Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbecks and so on it so how can some of you say that the REST of Pakistan is repulsive and only Pashtun areas are welcome? The history you share with Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbecks is not for very long and they have done the same and in some cases worse to you all than any Punjabi has done to us. Please explain to me why are THOSE non-Pashtuns okay in your "Loy Afghanistan" but Punjabi, Sindhi & so on are not? Just as you share a history with Tajiks, Uzbecks, Hazaras and don't hate all of them neither do most of us hate all Sindhi, Punjabi & so on. It would be best if we ALL unite as ONE country
You can't simply use the argument that oh we can live with tajiks, but why not panjabis. That is a weak argument. The people who live in the lar au bar Afghan watan are part of it, we can't kick out minorities. However the concept of Pakistan was based on a flawed ideology and confused federation. This federation has never worked and is increasingly collapsing. So it make no sense or rather we have no interest in maintaining it. We are stuck with Afghanistan either way, since we share national ties to them and our trade, interests are linked. With Pakistan it has never been the case.
The majority in Pakistan could have been martians, it still would be beside the point, that Pakistan as a state and federation let alone ideology has failed.
BTW Shehbaz khan you are using fundamentally weak arguments mostly weak platitudes to shift the blame on us rather than the inherent flawed system of Pakistan. Hec they have even ignored and destroyed their own 1940 resolution.
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hey respected sher banu & shabaz khan salam i am an indian muslim brother of you all, pakistan & india is like one big house with an artificial wall lets break it yeah insha'Allah we can do it
let khyber pakhtoonwa & baluchistan go to afghanisthan
lets just unite india & pakistan & bangladesh it will increase the muslim populations in an united india & will be good for muslims as a power pakistan india bd uniting back and becoming one undivided country might be one of the richest strongest country in the world pakistan was united with india for thousands of years insha'Allah india & pakistan will become one country again the germen wall broke its only a matter of time before india & pakistan "UNITE" back into one country isha'Allah amin sum ameenLast edited by Espresso; 09-08-2010, 08:39 PM.“Coffee and love are best when they are hot.”
A German proverb
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My two cents- The idea of a joint Af-Pak federation seem unfeasible, simply because of the deep-rooted nationalism (particularly Afghan Pakhtuns) and the mistrust towards Pakistan in Pakhtuns. The above also stem from the fact that Pakistan tried to control the country via Taliban and the ensuing war plunged Afghanistan into further depths.
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SherBano
You presented this Idea at wrong place among wrong people!
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LOL Funnist thread ever, sorry but the most stupid one as well. All we want is our land Pashtunistan back and give the 80% population back to India.Happy Ramadan everyone. [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dym5AVwvc7c&feature=related]‫نشيد (زين الشهور) كااااملة || Zain Ramadan Nasheed-Full Version‬‎ - YouTube[/url]
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no way!!!!Originally posted by Shehbaz Khan View PostI guess for the betterment of Pakhtun Nation both Pakistan and Afghanistan need to work under the same federation whatever you may call let it be Pakistan or Afghanistan doesn't matter .. The name is not what I need .. I need a piece of bread and a house for my people to live happily and safely without the fear of getting killed and robbed!!
We need to Work For United Pak-Afghan Federation (country)Afghanistan Analyst Bibliography 2011
http://afghanistananalyst.files.word...graphy2011.pdf
Afghanistan Analyst Conflict Bibliography 2012
http://afghanistananalyst.files.word...graphy2012.pdf
Pashto Learning Resources
http://www.pashtunforums.com/pashto-...esources-3090/
http://www.benawa.com/
http://www.alamahabibi.com/
http://www.ulfat.net/
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