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  • #16
    spera da khu ma hem lekley shu mased khu baned shu ta hem rana za ka sa

    mkwa khar da wey
    .....


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    • #17
      Originally posted by Shadow Caster
      We can see how persianized afghanistan is , more than half of afghans are non pashtuns.
      This pseudo afghan nationality wont get you anywhere.
      Shadow one liners won't get you out of it. First give us a comprehensive idea as to where and how you want to achieve this. Also answer the things that I have asked you before. What about the other areas? How will you dictate their inclusion or exclusion from the state?

      Nokia khabarae pa zae kawaa nu sok ban keegee na. Nor asae khabarae dee.
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      • #18
        Afghanistan has a sole national language which is Pashto.
        Our University is called Pohantoon.
        Our Army ranks are in Pashto.
        Our parliament is Majority Pashtun.
        Our chief of Army is Pashtun.
        Our President is a Pashtun.
        Our intelligence chief is a Pashtun.
        Our Presidents have always been Pashtun.
        Our country was founded by a Pashtun.
        Our National poet is a Pashtun.(Khattak baba)
        Bacha Khan is buried in Afghanistan, he refused to be buried in Punjabistan.
        ..............

        PAM Kwa chay BANED nasham ........

        da paraghrap reply ba za darkam simple yu line ka

        FERGHON Muslman wu ka Kafir .......da tolo Yaqen da chay Kafir

        wu haga awo MUSA AS da JWAND HAR WAKHT

        DA DODAY NA WAKHT TAR TAKZAY PURAY BA

        FERGHON DA MUSA AS PA SHAN LEGDU BYA HAGA MUSLMAN SHU ?


        HAga da MUSA AS Nakhwal kwalo........
        .....


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        • #19
          Originally posted by Freedom Fighter View Post
          Why are almost all Afghan Pashtuns loyal to Tajik dominated Afghanistan but against Punjabi dominated Pakistan? Why can't BOTH sides agree that we need our OWN separate state? We need to break the chains of the past and create a new Pashtun nation. A country by us and for us that exists to preserve our unique identity. Why is the suggestion of this so unwelcomed by Afghan Pashtuns?

          You will find not a single Pashtun from Afghanistan claiming that Afghanistan is Tajik-dominated. The only ones claiming that it is are the one's sitting in Karachi, Quetta and Peshawar, who've never even laid a foot on Afghan soil and talk about Afghan government policies and how we should run our country.


          Listen. Tajiks have done more for Afghanistan than those of you who sit here and bash them. And they will ALWAYS do more for Afghanistan than all of you combined EVER will because they consider it their Watan, like we do. Afghanistan da Har Afghan au da har Pashtun nang au Namoos day. This is fundamental. You cannot divide Afghans and Pashtuns because they are one. You cannot divide Tajiks Uzbaks and Pashtuns because they are one.

          In your Utopian theory of a world with pure races and a country called Pashtunistan, this segregation might be possible; in reality, it's unheard of and not possible. Why? Because, by now, Tajiks and Pashtuns eat from one Dastarkhan, they share blood, they live in the same cities, in the same neighborhoods, in the same houses, under the same roofs.. they are family that looks beyond rigid ethnic ideas. That idea of attachment is never goig to leave any of us, inshAllah.


          Let me tell you something. Go to Afghanistan, sha, and approach a Pashtun in a Bazaar, tell him, "Wrora, darza I'm making a state and calling it Pashtunistan. It's for us Pashtuns! It's just going to be us Pashtuns living there and no one else. It's going to be a feast!" Trust me. He's going to slap you so hard, you're gonna go flying back to Pakistan. This idea of leaving one's own Nang au Namoos for the concept of disunity is unheard of. It goes against any principle of loyalty that we have. THIS is the country my uncle has died for, this is the country my grandparents have fought for, this is the country our blood has been shed for, this is the country my tears have been shed for in nights and nights of prayers and worship of our Lord, this is the country our heroes have fought for. Do you seriously think we are going to leave it?
          On a different note, if you tell that Pashtun about Pashtunistan and how it's a country just for Pashtuns. His mother might be Tajik, she might be Sayyad, his wife might be Tajik, his family might be non-Pashtun. The idea of Pashtunistan implies that such families are separated because.. well if you don't separate them and racial segregation doesn't take place, what would be the difference between a Pashtunistan and an Afghanistan anyway??

          But yeah, on a more practical note. Someone please kill me before I see Afghanistan divided or a Tajikzameen and Pashtunistan formed on the soil of Afghanistan which is soaked in Malalai's and Nazo's, in Mirwais' and Ahmad Shah Baba's blood and tears.
          Last edited by Mayana; 09-03-2010, 04:57 AM.

          Daa zma lewanay Zrra gorah, daa sta lewanee Mina..
          Za ba da Sahra warnakam da Iran pa Golestan,
          Dalta za yao & yakta yam, halta zar zma pa Shaan
          .

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          • #20
            we have old enimty with panjap and hindu ppl
            and tajik near to pashton in culture and theya arian race's
            they are near to us more than panjap

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            • #21
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              Last edited by Levanaye Zalmaye; 12-15-2011, 12:34 PM.
              "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

              "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                There are poor people in Punjab and Rajhastan, too. They're not just poor, they're destitute. Shed a tear for them, too.

                Tajiks and Hazaras are the subject people of the inevitable Taliban state of Afghanistan (that will come after NATO's withdrawal) and they will retain their status in a Loy Afghanistan of the future due to their minority status. The Uzbeks inhabit a relatively industrial area and the Hazaras and Tajiks are sitting on a lot of mineral deposits. It'll be crazy to cede off their areas to Uzbekistan and Tajikistan.



                The Afghanistan of today is a multicultural state where Pashtuns just about equal the non-Pashtuns. It is a state for many peoples, out of which one are Pashtun. Afghanistan proper (which means Pakhtunkhwa [north and south] included) will be a real state for Pashtuns. For a people to have any effective control of a state, they must, at the very least, comprise 2/3rds of the total population. Getting non-Pashtuns to sacrifice for the cause of Pashtuns is like Israel relying on its Druze and Arab populations.

                The aim of every honest and red-blooded Pashtun should be reunification. A Pashtun is another Pashtun's brother first - Tajiks, Baloch, Sindhis, etc come after that.
                You are right wrora, but our unification has to be done in terms that are in our interests, not counter to it. We are going to have to bring these diverse communities on our sides not only for our unification but long term requirements (ones that I have discussed with you).
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mayana View Post

                  You will find not a single Pashtun from Afghanistan claiming that Afghanistan is Tajik-dominated. The only ones claiming that it is are the one's sitting in Karachi, Quetta and Peshawar, who've never even laid a foot on Afghan soil and talk about Afghan government policies and how we should run our country.


                  Listen. Tajiks have done more for Afghanistan than those of you who sit here and bash them. And they will ALWAYS do more for Afghanistan than all of you combined EVER will because they consider it their Watan, like we do. Afghanistan da Har Afghan au da har Pashtun nang au Namoos day. This is fundamental. You cannot divide Afghans and Pashtuns because they are one. You cannot divide Tajiks Uzbaks and Pashtuns because they are one.

                  In your Utopian theory of a world with pure races and a country called Pashtunistan, this segregation might be possible; in reality, it's unheard of and not possible. Why? Because, by now, Tajiks and Pashtuns eat from one Dastarkhan, they share blood, they live in the same cities, in the same neighborhoods, in the same houses, under the same roofs.. they are family that looks beyond rigid ethnic ideas. That idea of attachment is never goig to leave any of us, inshAllah.


                  Let me tell you something. Go to Afghanistan, sha, and approach a Pashtun in a Bazaar, tell him, "Wrora, darza I'm making a state and calling it Pashtunistan. It's for us Pashtuns! It's just going to be us Pashtuns living there and no one else. It's going to be a feast!" Trust me. He's going to slap you so hard, you're gonna go flying back to Pakistan. This idea of leaving one's own Nang au Namoos for the concept of disunity is unheard of. It goes against any principle of loyalty that we have. THIS is the country my uncle has died for, this is the country my grandparents have fought for, this is the country our blood has been shed for, this is the country my tears have been shed for in nights and nights of prayers and worship of our Lord, this is the country our heroes have fought for. Do you seriously think we are going to leave it?
                  On a different note, if you tell that Pashtun about Pashtunistan and how it's a country just for Pashtuns. His mother might be Tajik, she might be Sayyad, his wife might be Tajik, his family might be non-Pashtun. The idea of Pashtunistan implies that such families are separated because.. well if you don't separate them and racial segregation doesn't take place, what would be the difference between a Pashtunistan and an Afghanistan anyway??

                  But yeah, on a more practical note. Someone please kill me before I see Afghanistan divided or a Tajikzameen and Pashtunistan formed on the soil of Afghanistan which is soaked in Malalai's and Nazo's, in Mirwais' and Ahmad Shah Baba's blood and tears.
                  salamona. very well said, I absolutely agree with you.

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