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    Afghanistan: Status Of Dari, Pashto Languages A Sensitive Topic

    By Farangis Najibullah
    Radio Free Europe

    November 03, 2003

    The status of the Dari and Pashto languages has always been a sensitive issue in Afghanistan. Both Dari -- also called Farsi -- and Pashto belong to the Indo-European family of languages. Pashto is the mother tongue of Afghanistan's largest ethnic group, Pashtuns, while Tajiks, the second-largest ethnic group, speak Dari. All modern Afghan constitutions, including the new draft presented to Hamid Karzai today, have provided equal status to Dari and Pashtu. In reality, however, many Pashtuns say their language is discriminated against.

    Prague, 3 November 2003 (RFE/RL) Article 16 of Chapter 1 of Afghanistan's draft constitution, presented to Afghan Transitional Administration Chairman President Hamid Karzai at a ceremony today in Kabul, formally recognizes the official status of both the Dari and Pashto languages.
    "Among Pashtu, Dari, Uzbek, Turkmen, Baluchi, Pashayi, Nuristani, and other languages spoken in Afghanistan, Pashto and Dari are the official languages of the government. The government will provide and implement effective programs to promote and strengthen all languages in Afghanistan. Publications and radio and television broadcasting in all languages is without restriction," the draft says.

    Despite such constitutional guarantees, however, many Pashtuns say their language has always been discriminated against in Afghan society. Although Pashto is spoken by the largest ethnic group in the country, they complain that Dari is the dominant language in Afghan government offices, at official meetings, in the courts, in publications and on radio and television programs.

    The origins of the language dispute go back many centuries. Farsi has long been one of the dominant languages in the region surrounding Afghanistan. Today, Farsi is the national and official language in both Tajikistan and Iran. Tajiks are also the largest ethnic minority in Uzbekistan, while several hundred thousand Farsi speakers live in China (Tajiks of Xinjiang).
    By contrast, Pashto is spoken primarily only in Afghanistan and northwestern Pakistan.

    Anwar-ul-haq Ahadi is the leader of the Afghan Mellat political party and the chief of the Afghan Central Bank. He told RFE/RL that even in predominantly Pashtun regions, such as Nangarhar Province, nearly all official communication takes place in Dari.

    "Although I don't have exact statistics, we can say that 95 percent of official paperwork takes place in Dari both in predominantly Pashtun or predominantly Tajik regions," he said. "Pashto speakers complain that while Pashto is our country's national and official language according to the law, in reality it is stripped of both statuses. Its status as an official language is extremely weak in reality."

    More than 200 newspapers and magazines have been started in Afghanistan since the fall of the Taliban in late 2001. Almost half of them are published in Dari, while some 30 percent are printed in Pashtu. The rest of the publications are officially bilingual.

    According to Afghan journalist Ziya Bumiya, however, around 80 percent of all articles in bilingual newspapers and magazines are published only in Dari. Bumiya said the situation is the same on Afghan National Television and Radio broadcasting. "Some 80 percent of Afghan national broadcasting is in Dari, and around 20 percent in Pashtu," Bumiya said. "National television translates some foreign movies into Pashto and sometimes broadcasts insignificant announcements or statements in Pashtu. All important interviews and statements, as well as important programs that would attract many viewers, are broadcast in Dari."

    According to the law, Afghans are free to choose their language of education. Primary and secondary educations are available in both Dari and Pashtu, as well as in Afghanistan's other languages, such as Uzbek. However, in most Afghan universities, lessons are taught in Dari.

    Professor Abdulshukur Rashad, a prominent Afghan scholar, told RFE/RL that apart from the Faculty of Pashto Language and Literature, all other departments at Kabul University function only in Dari. "Some people says that Pashto is also one of the official languages, but it is only on paper. It is not the case in reality. The language of education is Farsi. The language of offices is Farsi," Rashad said.

    Rashad said that while most ordinary Pashtuns are capable of basic communication in Dari, a fluent knowledge of spoken and written Dari is the norm for educated Pashtuns. "Many Tajiks, however, do not try to learn Pashto," Rashad said.

    Sahebnazar Muradi, the chief editor of the "Aina" (Mirror) newspaper in Kabul, acknowledges that Pashtuns are indeed the biggest minority in Afghanistan, but that Dari is still the language of the majority because Dari is used by all the country's ethnic groups to communicate with one another. Muradi said Pashtuns learn Dari voluntarily because some 70 percent of the country's scientific and historic literature has been written in Dari over the past centuries.

    "No one forces people to learn Dari. There is no need for that. People of all ethnic groups learn Dari with their own initiative to be able to communicate with each other. That's why Dari is an effective language of offices, universities. It is a language of culture. It has taken this role in a very natural way," Muradi said.

    All Afghan constitutions -- starting from the first constitution, which was introduced in 1923, to the latest draft constitution, which was presented to Afghan leader Hamid Karzai today -- have provided equal status to both languages.

    Abdulhamid Mubarez, a deputy at the Ministry of Information and Culture, told RFE/RL that the law is obeyed. "We have two official languages in Afghanistan -- Dari and Pashtu. Everyone is free to communicate, write their letters or requisitions in one of these two languages. There is no discrimination. I have never come across any discrimination," Mubarez said.

    However, Anwar-ul-haq Ahadi, the chief of the Central Bank, said many Pashtuns, especially university students, are dissatisfied with the current situation. "We have to address the issue," Ahadi said, "since our country is officially bilingual, all official workers at least have to be able to communicate in both Dari and Pashto languages."

    People like Ahadi express their concern that if the issue is not acknowledged and addressed properly, groups such as the ousted Taliban will capitalize on the popular dissatisfaction, especially the discontent of young Pashtuns, to ignite hostilities between ethnic groups.

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    On the above article we have Pashtuns who volenterily choose Dari over Pushto, so the article can counter all these sad claims about Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa choosing Urdu over Pashto. The whole educational board is teaching in Dari to Afghans, same can be said about Pakistan teaching Urdu in its educational board.

    Many tajiks dont want to learn Pushto, same can be said about Punjabis not wanting to Learn Pushto. Makes no difference. So when one speaks about Pashtun Unity but on the other side requestings each side to join hands with non pashtuns, it can never be valid or successful. We need to set go of these Egos and start uniting our people with one language being Pushto. If you want to take the unity of Pashtuns seriously then you need to stop the double standards. You cant just drag back the urge for Pashtun unity just because of a few Pashtuns you know who have married Tajiks/Punjabis etc. Pashtuns need to always come first, no more talks of Muslim Brotherhood(ISI) and no more talks of "loy afghan law o bar afghan, tajiks are my brothers"



    Kind Regards

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    • #3
      Thanks for article masefa.
      It is very sad that pashto is like mairanay zoy in afghanistan. But pashtuns themeselves are responsibe for this.

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      • #4
        Next time when you post any such article, first look at who the author is and then try to ridicule us. Bekaar khaleg.
        Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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        • #5
          why don' we start by learning how to read and write pashto our selves and then point at others. every one of us must play a part in making pashto the language that it should be

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
            Next time when you post any such article, first look at who the author is and then try to ridicule us. Bekaar khaleg.
            If you dont like maseed it doesnt mean you have to deny reality. Pashto is suffering in motherland of pashtuns.

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            • #7
              ^ I repeat; Look at who the author (with author I mean the one who wrote this article) is. Was is that hard to understand? And Afghanistan is homeland of Pukhtoons? But weren't you guys who don't agree that Afghan equals Pukhtoon? Then how is Afghanistan 'motherland of Pukhtoons'?
              Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                ^ I repeat; Look at who the author (with author I mean the one who wrote this article) is. Was is that hard to understand? And Afghanistan is homeland of Pukhtoons? But weren't you guys who don't agree that Afghan equals Pukhtoon? Then how is Afghanistan 'motherland of Pukhtoons'?
                It will become our motherland once the father starts treating her mother like a Pashtun.

                Kind Regards

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Shayesta View Post
                  ^ I repeat; Look at who the author (with author I mean the one who wrote this article) is. Was is that hard to understand? And Afghanistan is homeland of Pukhtoons? But weren't you guys who don't agree that Afghan equals Pukhtoon? Then how is Afghanistan 'motherland of Pukhtoons'?
                  personally i consider both pakhtunkhwa and afghanistan to be motherland of pashtuns but as general concept is that afghanistan is motherland of pashtuns, so i respect it.
                  But it is very rediculous situation that in motherland of pashtuns dari is dominant on pashto.

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                  • #10
                    Dear Luffy.

                    The British People are of Germanic Origins but they do not consider themselves as German but rather they consider themselves as English. We should do the same, even though our origins maybe from present day Afghanistan but that doesnt give any excuse for us to join them and demand we respect Tajiks,Uzbeks and Hazaras under the title of Afghan.

                    Kind Regards

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                      Dear Luffy.

                      The British People are of Germanic Origins but they do not consider themselves as German but rather they consider themselves as English. We should do the same, even though our origins maybe from present day Afghanistan but that doesnt give any excuse for us to join them and demand we respect Tajiks,Uzbeks and Hazaras under the title of Afghan.

                      Kind Regards
                      That is not logical, because if it held then we are all Iranic since our ancestry can from eastern iranic tribes. When we all say Afghanistan is where are origins are, we generally mean it in the sense that the language, tribes mostly originated from southern Afghanistan.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                        On the above article we have Pashtuns who volenterily choose Dari over Pushto, so the article can counter all these sad claims about Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa choosing Urdu over Pashto. The whole educational board is teaching in Dari to Afghans, same can be said about Pakistan teaching Urdu in its educational board.
                        Maseeta! Both the above trends are not defendable.Two wrongs can not make ONE right.We have not chose Urdu, it was imposed on us. I hate myself when I have to speak in Urdu.
                        Last edited by Guest; 08-26-2010, 09:03 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BehavedMaseed View Post
                          It will become our motherland once the father starts treating her mother like a Pashtun.
                          Ehh, yeah. Whatever that means.

                          Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                          personally i consider both pakhtunkhwa and afghanistan to be motherland of pashtuns but as general concept is that afghanistan is motherland of pashtuns, so i respect it.
                          But why do you accept Afghanistan as your motherland? I mean, Afghan doesn't mean Pukhtoon to you and many others like you so why you call a 'non-Pukhtoon' country your motherland?

                          Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                          But it is very rediculous situation that in motherland of pashtuns dari is dominant on pashto.
                          Capital rules, Afghanistan's capital is Kabul city, and over 70% of the Kabul city population are non-Pukhtoons. Isn't it obvious that Dari will dominate in such an area? Yet I was surprised that I heard as much Pukhto as Dari in Kabul city and much more Pukhto music than Dari music. I am sure Laila (forum member) has noticed the same. Same wise how Kandahar is around 30% non-Pukhtoon, but yet a Pukhto dominated area. I can't remember I ever heard a Tajik moan about Kandahar not promoting Dari? And about other parts, if Pukhtoons speak Pukhto, then besides their own language others ethnic also used speak Dari when Afghanistan was newly formed. Which includes; Nurestanis, Kohistanis, Balochis, Qizilbash, Aimak, Pashayi, Uzbeks, Hazaras, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
                          Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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                          • #14
                            ^ And there are even people who are actually thanking him for this shocking and freshing news, LOL. And 'the other side' was supposed to be more stable, richer, and more educated........
                            Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jasmine
                              It saddens me Shayesta. He has never even entered Afghanistan.


                              The other day he said KANDAHAR, yes KANDAHAR is Persianized. My God did I laugh, I almost giggled too lound in the News-conference room.

                              Kandahar is one of those places where without Pashto you cant survive. Even the Hazaras speak and write better Pashto than many of Pakistan where Pashto is not even taught. Kandahar has schools that have taught Pashto to millions.
                              I don't know about Hazaras speaking better pashto lolzz...maybe from some in peshawar city, but come on other areas not a chance.

                              One form of ignorance shouldn't be compounded with another.
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