Dear Sangar

[ComradePashtun]

Sangar,

Lets have this a proper substantive and educational topic to discuss every issue one by one in a clear perspective.

Please answer the following questions as the rubric for continuing this debate. Provide as detail answers as you can for the follwing questions and then we can take them up one by one along with other members here too.


1-How do you evaluate Taliban relations with Pakistan.

2-Does Taliban exist as a political movement and how active and popular are they among the populaiton of Afghanistan at present?

3-Please give us a list or synopsis of some of your military advantages over the Afghan government and its international forces allies for which you have claimed that they are losing.

No one liners, by the way you escaped my other questions in ISI chief's letter to Mullah Beradar.

[Admin Khan]

Dear ComradePashtun,

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[ComradePashtun]

Oh.. thank you Admin lala.

[شمله ور خراساني]

1-How do you evaluate Taliban relations with Pakistan.

Before I can answer that, I need to explain something about Pakistan.

Pakistan is a failed state. Its a creation of the British empire. During the days if British occupation of the subcontinent a group of people joined the British administration as public servants. They were Hindus, Muslims, Punjabis, Sikhs, Sindhis, Pashtuns and Baloch.

When the British left South Asia, the just handed over the authority over the region to their former slaves and puppets of the colonial age.

We all know how Pakistan was created by the Ismaili apostate Jinnah. The country was as Islamic as India. Nothing makes Pakistan islamic. The government is secular, the laws are British secular laws, and islam is just used to fool the masses. In fact, I could argue that Indian government might be more just than the Pakistani government. But this is a subject for another discussion.

Pakistan is run by a small group of rich families who hail from the same group of people who use to serve the british empire. They were born and raised to think of themselves as servants of the English. This is why many political leaders of former colonies are inhumane, corrupt and ruthless. They have experienced a lifestyle where there was a situation where one group dominated the rest.

So when the British left the subcontinent, these families inherited the control over India and Pakistan. The hostility between India and Pakistan was never about Islam or Kashmir. But rather because the elites in Pakistan and India needed to rally public support against an enemy. Every society needs an adversary in order to recognize itself. You know who you are when you know who you are not. And this is exactly why Pakistan has developed itself as a bastion of islam. Where in reality, the society is more corrupt and un-islamic than your average European country.

This new desire for identity and self image was partially the driving force for the religious figures to rally support for their cause. Since the country was extremely divided along ethnic and linguistic faultlines, it was only natural that sectarian division should emerge as a by-product to the already existing polarization.

A society divided internally along so many different faultlines where each group is searching for its own identity and role in society is bound to become extremely unstable. Moreover, it is prone to manipulation. All though the british left the subcontinent 60 years ago, their control over the politics of Pakistan never ceased. Likewise, other countries tried to influence pakistan by endorsing certain groups and movements. China, Russia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, USA, Britain and if I am not mistaken, even India supported some movement or group at a certain point in Pakistans history.

What does all of this mean for pakistans government and administration?

basically, a country where there is so much division, there always will be a strong need for a single power block that can crush any opposition to the central government. This is why the pakistani army played a keyrole into the shaping of Pakistans domestic and foreign policy. Since the army was founded and created by the British, naturally, the british empire remained to play an important role in the future of pakistan after independence.

While the Army was the most dominant movement in Pakistan, other groups and factions managed to develop themselves and organize themselves. After the independence of eastern pakistan, the threat for more division and internal hostility was in the air. And the reason why in the 70's Pakistani elite tried to change the country's image and turn it into a conservative fundamentalist state was because they wanted to unite the country and prevent further division and internal hostility.

The war in Afghanistan fell like blessing from the sky for the pakistani military and political elite. While a few skirmishes with India did not grant pakistan any glory, the hopes and wishes of Pakistani elite was renewed when a new adversary was approaching Pakistan from the north.

The threat of communism was a blessing. Thanks to the Russian advancement towards Afghanistan, initially via mobilizing the communists in Afghanistan and later by spreading socialist propaganda, pakistan managed to profile itself as an important player in the cold war. The strategic position of Pakistan, its new islamist image and its hostility with the pro Russian India was perfect. Soon, United states, Saudi Arabia and many other wealthy countries started pumping billions of dollars into pakistan to support and mobilze the Mujahedeen.

The Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, meanwhile were threated by the coupe d'etat of Daud Khan. Daud Khan was very close to Russia and his coupe was supported by the Afghan military that was trained, supported and influenced by the Soviet Union.

The Afghan Mujahedeen were infleunced by the Ikhwanul Muslimeen movement from the middle east. While the socialists and communists were trying to get rid of the pimp, Zahir Shah who reigned over Afghanistan for 40 years squandering the countries wealth on cheap European hookers, gay porn and fancy cars, the country was stuck in the pre-industrialized 19 century.

Likewise, the Islamist youth wanted an utopian Islamic state based on the ideas of hasan Al Banna, Sayyid Qutb and Abdul Ala Al Maududi.

When the communists allied with Daud Khan took control of Afghanistan, the Islamists feared that they will loose their chance to convert Afghanistan into an ideal islamist state. So they started a rebellion against the new regime of Daud Khan.

This rebellion was supported by pakistan and the aforementioned other countries.

The Islamists were not the only group of religious figures who opposed the new regime. While the islamists were inspired by Ikhwanul Muslimeen, another group of religious figures was seeking the reestablishment of the monarchy. They were the Sufis from the Jilani, Gilani and Mujadidi families. The Sufis represented the pro royalist elites and feudals. To them, the Ikhwani Islamists and the Communists were enemies.

But once the Army generals of Afghanistan helped Daud Khan to overthrow Zahir shah, the Sufis had no other choice but to join the Ikhwanis.

Around the same time in the late 70's the Shi'ite revolution in Iran was another important historic event that was going to shape the war in Afghanistan in the upcoming decades.

While the Sufis were divided into the Qaderi, Naqshbandi, Chisti and Maulavi branches, the Ikhwanis were divided into the neo Islamists like Hekmatyar, Rabbani, Massoud, Sayyaf. And the more conservative and orthodox Yunus Khalis and Nabi Muhammadi. On the other hand, there wasa Shi'ite movement supported by the new Iranian government.

Pakistan saw the internal division of the Jihadi movements and their ideological differences as another blessing. Inside Pakistan, as mentioned before, there were already many divisions along various ethnic and sectarian faultlines.

The arrival of the Islamists into Pakistan after Daud Khan's coupe d'etat demanded for an official state policy. Since the ruling elite of Pakistan was incapable of enforcing its laws and codes of conduct and social norms on its entire population, it was also incapable of managing the Jihadi movements and appointing one single leader to the whole jihadi community. But this turned out to be yet another blessing for pakistan. Different groups and movments already existing in the Pakistani society embraced different factions of the Jihadis from Afghanistan.

This is how the Peshawar 7 were created.

Once the war in Afghanistan started to heat up, and the Russians were forced to invade, the money kept poring from all sides into Pakistan.

Pakistani elite never ever has managed to control the country as a whole and to civilize and unify the nation into one single being. The exstremely divided and internally hostile population of Pakistanis was a big challenge for pakistan to deal with. But trying to benefit from the chaos and dispair was considered as a great apportunity.

So the pakistani elite, used the situation in Afghanistan to enrich itself with the money that was pouring into Pakistan. The Army generals, the pro government mullah's the civil political leaders and other notable figures all became multi millionairs within a decade.

The pakistani army and secret service adapted intself to the newly emerging enironment and focused all of its operations on how to profit from the war in Afghanistan.

Once the USSR was defeated and left Afghanistan, Pakistan no longer needed to invest time and effort into the Jihaids from Afghanistan. Soon, assassinations followed of important jihadi leaders and many channels of aid and support from Pakistan were closed for Afghan refugees and Mujahedeen.

this led to the civil war that was bound to happen in Afghanistan because of the existence of so many different jihadi movements with different leaders with different motivations.

The civil war created a new problem for the already weak and unstable Pakistan. While the Jihadis were butchering each other and massacring the people of Afghanistan, a new influx of refugees from Afghanistan arrived in pakistan fleeing the horrors of the civil war in kabul where people were cooked alive and women were gang raped on the streets.

After the departure of the Russian army from Afghanistan, a group of Mujahedeen started to return from the battle field and they tried to pick up their regular old lifestyle before the war. Some key figures in the war, like Maulavi Yunus Khalis called on other leaders to lay down their weapons and to burry them in the ground in case another attack on Afghanistan occurs in the near future. Many men who were sincere devout muslims and patriots stopped fighting.

But the most power hungry and greedy leaders such as Rabbani, Sayyaf, Gulbuddin, Baba Ali Mazari along with the communist militia's of Dostum continued to fight for dominance and control over Afghanistan. Which led to the massacres and destruction of the early 90's.

Many Afghans were extremely disappointed, many mujahedeen from the different factions were very worried and concerned about the civil war. The humiliation and the horrors caused for grave concern among the men who faught the Russians for almost 10 years.

People like Yunus Khalis, Jalaludin Haqqani and others tried to stop the civil war by encouraging dialogue and negotiations. But to no avail.

Meanwhile a group of men under the leadership of Mullah Omar started an uprising against the warlords of the Sufi movment Gul Agha Sherzai in Qandahar because of the rampant sexual abuse of little boys and gilrs.

Pakistan was watching the whole scene closely. When the Taliban movement emerged in kandahar as a grass root movement to re-establish order, pakistan realized that this movement could succeed in bringing long term stability in the neighboring country which was beneficial for trade and other interests of pakistan. So pakistan supplied the taliban with weapons and some money to help their movement to advance forwards. The movement of Mullah Omar was received with open arms all across the southern Pashtun belt. people from other factions, such as Yunus Khalis movement, some Hizbi Islami commanders and mullahs, Sayyafs commanders and many other figures gave their pledge of allegiance to the new leader who promised to bring peace and stability and to disarm to bandits and looters.

But after the establishment of the Taliban regime, Taliban never received any more than the first initial 9 million dollars in cash they received from pakistan.

The country was in shambles, there was no trade, no agriculture, a total braindrain and above all few consequtive rainless years.

The Taliban government had no tax revenues, there was no trade nor industry, everybody left Afghanistan way before Taliban emerged and their strict laws prevented the educated secular elite of Afghanistan from returning back because they loved music and their gillette more than their homeland and poor people.

Afghanistan was left to its dispare and nobody was giving Afghanistan any finanical aid. Many of my cousins and other distant relatives were guards, commanders, firefighters, teachers, police investigators, military academy professors etc during the Taliban regime. They all received lousy salaries, they could not live off. The ones who met Mullah Omar say that he himself was wearing old shoes and old clothes and would eat simple food like common people.

Taliban were clueless of how to do politics how to deal with other countries, how to re-organize the government. They were Taliban. Not even fully graduated students of madrassahs. They wanted to bring peace, but they did not know how.

So they failed miserabely on many grounds. Their weak domestic policy in economics and other fields and the difficult circumstances they were situated in unabled them to bring about any positive change.

Meanwhile, a former friend of Golbudin Hekmatyar and Sayyaf, Osama Bin Laden made some enemies after he left Afghanistan. Once his mentor Abdullah Azzam was killed, and the Russians were gone from Afghanistan, he returned to his home country, Saudi Arabia. There he found himself in a country that has succumbed to the Americans and American troops were stationed all across the holy land and Iraq was attacked where many innocent Muslims died.

Bin Laden tried to convince the grand mufti of Saudi Arabia, Sheikh Bin baz to change his stance regarding the American troops, but Bin Baz was determined to please his master, the king of Saudi Arabia. And did not accept Bin Laden's advice. This led to hostilities between Saudis and Bin Laden. So bin laden packed his bags and went to north Africa for a new adventure. He declared war against America and he was no longer welcome in Saudi Arabia, so he stayed in Sudan for a while. Soon the heat caught up to him and he was forced to flee somewhere else. Afghanistan was burried in rubble and there was a civil war going on. Once the Taliban captured Kabul, he thaught that the Taliban would be more than happy to receive him. So he returned to Afghanistan in 1996 hoping that the Taliban would support his war against America.

Once in Afghanistan he realized that the Taliban did not have a foreign policy. Neither did they planned to go to war with any other country. So he started appearing in the media making bold statements and threatening America.

The Taliban were at that time occupied with civil war with the Northern Alliance who received aid from Russia, China, Iran, India, Usa and France.

After the 1998 attacks in Kenya, the Taliban banned Bin Laden from talking with the press any more. And at some point in that period of time, even his walkie talkie was taken from him. he was attracting too much bad press, while the taliban were burried in problems of their own. Last thing they needed is a trouble maker as their gues who was declaring war against the whole world.

So the treated him with respect because of his sacrifices back in the early 80's. But he was on a virtual housearrest untill 2001.

The Taliban tried to negotiate with the Saudis to deliver them Bin Laden. Because the Taliban needed financial aid and they were hoping that the Saudis would continue to aid Afghanistan. But because of Bin Laden, they limited their chances of receiving any aid.

During this period, ISI did not play any role in the domestic politics of Afghanistan. Once the shura of 1500 mullahs in Kandahar declared Mullah Omar as Amirul Momineen, the Taliban movement became an independent political entity that later became the legitimage government of Afghanistan.

Mullah Omar never was an agent and never will be. He had his own independent political orientation and the Shura of the Taliban is not under the influence of ISI. This is all speculations and lies.

The Americans wanted to overthrow the Taliban regime because the Taliban refused to accept Unical's offer to build pipelines through Afghanistan. Hamid Kharzai, who was a consultant for Unical arranged the negotiations between Americans and the Taliban.

But when Taliban told Americans that they are not accepting the Americans offer but rather take the offer from the Argentinian company, the Americans threatened to carpet bomb entire Afghanistan. This was somewhere in mid 2000. Soon after that, Americasn positioned their combat troops and special forces in Uzbekistan, Tajkistan and Panjsher valley in Afghanistan.

After 2001, the Americans invaded Afghanistan and the pakistanis apprehended thousands of Taliban and other civilian random Afghans and surrendered them to the Americans. In fact, Parvez Musharaf was responsible for the starvation of Afghan refugees in Peshawar because he banned them from receiving any food or water. This because his masters in America ordered them to do so.

Around 2000 and 2001 before the invasion of Afghanistan, the tension between pakistan and Afghanistan was at all time high.

After the invastion of Afghanistan, it soon became clear that Pakistani elites had a deal with the Americans all along and they even handed the Abottabad military complex to the Americans specifically to serve as a launghing pad to attack Afghanistan.

Ever since, Pakistan has received billions in aid in order to fight the Taliban. Thousands of Afghans are lcoked in prisons in Pakistan and tortured.

But, as I have explained in the beginning, the pakistani society is internally divided. The Islamization of the 70's and 80's triggered to reshape pakistan and to give it a strong Muslim identity created a blow back effect for Pakistan. many of its new generation public servants were schooled and infleunced by the conflict n the last 30 years. many Pakistanis sympathize with the Mujahedeen of Afghanistan. The support for Afghan Mujahedeen is very common and widespread in Pakistan and the rest of the world.

So it is only natural to see members of Pakistani military and probably even ISI supporting the Afghan taliban. While the central government of pakistan suffered many disasters, regime changes and all other sorts of crises, a large portion of tis population has grown alianted from the central government.

People distrust the failed state, the rigged elections, the puppet regime of Zardari installed by Americans and the ruthless Army.

Many people wo serve in the army and governmetn actively act against their own government.

This phenomenon is common, not only in Pakistan. But in other former colonies like in Central and West Africa and Central and South America.

The current pakistani government is extremely uncapable and ineffective to do anything to meet its own goals and objectives. Pakistani foreign policy is primarily oriented towards America. It seeks funding and support from America by serving as a perfect client state in order to become eligible for grants and loans.

People who think that Pakistan is somehow a very smart entity capable of fooling the whole world are probably drunk. pakistan can't even whipe its own behind. How can Pakistan control a succesful insurgency in Afghanistan, and simultaneously receive billions in aid from America?

Are Americans that stupid to give billions of money in order to see the same money being used against itself?

America is loosing the war in Afghanistan. They want to create a smokescreen to hide their injuries from a embarrassing defeat.

2-Does Taliban exist as a political movement and how active and popular are they among the populaiton of Afghanistan in present?

Taliban is not a political movement. It does not have a sophisticated political body of intellectuals who can design and outline its future. Its a collective of religious figures who have joined hands based on their experience and common interest in the recent past as mujahedeen figthrers who have expelled the Russians. And are now resisting colonization by the Americans and their allies.

Taliban are still maturing as a movement. They do not have a strong ideological orientation of their own. There are people from all walks of life who have joined the taliban movement. There are lawyers, doctors, taxi drivers, herdsmen, farmers, students of universities and religious seminaries, mullahs, hairdressers and even former communists. They have all joined hands for one particular reason. Because they want to fight Americans, its allies and the northern alliance who have braught pain and suffering to our people.

Taliban are the most popular and the most dominant movement in the southern pashtun belt. If you have studied the ICOS report and last years general Flynn's report about the capability of Taliban and their relationship with the local population, you would have known that the Taliban are by far the most popular group in the southern pasthun belt. Aside from that, the northern regions of badhakhsan, Qunduz, baghlan and Badghis have a large pashtun population, plus a strong religious community of non-Pashtuns like the Badakhsani Tajiks and the Aymaqs who also support the Taliban movement.

Would the Taliban really be impopular and hated by the people of Afghanistan, then they wouldn't have gained the military success of the past 4 years.

3-Please give us a list or synopsis of some of your military advantages over the Afghan government and its international forces allies for which you have claimed that they are losing.

a list of my military advangages? I am not the Taliban. But I will give you a few things you can ponder upon:

First of all, the Taliban represent the rural population of Afghanistan. over 70% of Afghanistan. Even if half of that 70% sympathetic to the Taliban, then that would be more than what the Americans and their puppet regime of communists and warlords could ever have.

Secondly, the current puppet regime of nihilist apostates, sodomists and drug dealers are created from the remnants of the ruthless northern alliance who were responsible for the butchering and massacres of over 50 thousand civilians in Kabul. NOBODY in Afghanistan forgets the crimes of the people who are now chiefs of army, vice presidents and cabinet ministers.

Thirdly, the Taliban are primarily people from those parts of Afghanistan that have led the most succesful insurgency against the communists in the 80's. Helmand, Kandahar, uruzgan, Zabul, Paktika, Paktia, Khost, Wardak, maidan, Logar, Nangarhar, Kunar, Laghman, Baghlan, Badakhshan, Qunduz, Herat and badghis are all areas where the Russians faced heavy losses and suffered high casualties. The people of those regions have a fresh memory of a war against the modern invader. Some of the commanders of the 80's war are now commanders in the current war.

And last, The Taliban movement is highly motivated. They do not receive any salary, they fight for themselves. For their own future. And for their children. Not for a few dollars, Korean cigarettes, Bollywood movies, hashish and boy dancers. Thats what the ANA and ANP are fighting for.

This is why in the last 4 years, the ANP and ANA were butchered by the Taliban. While many ANA and ANP defected to the ATaliban.

No one liners, by the way you escaped my other questions in ISI chief's letter to Mullah Beradar.

What other question?

[Admin Khan]

We now look forward to ComradePashtun's rebuttal

[ComradePashtun]

Ooops Sangar was quick to write a reply. Ok, it is sahri time here, and I need my bed now - others can contribute to the thread while I go about getting my sleep for today's long day. Saying this without actually reading Sangar's post. Will dicuss the rest when I'm back next time, inshallah.

[Catya Sher]

He may be too busy attending a hurried meeting of the Central Committee of the Pashtun Communist Party. It was convened to confront this excellent challenge from S. Khorasani - that's how the Sovs always write, using a first initial only.

I'm sure he is frantically consulting Marxist-Leninist ideologues to compose a reply.
Perhaps he is boarding the plane right now at Sheremetyevo Airport, Moscow.

He should be careful of those Antonovs and Ilyushins - the most dangerous aircraft in the world because they were made by Communist 'workers' - hence have a proclivity to fall apart in flight, especially as "Aeroflop" has a tendency to be too casual in regular maintenance.

[شمله ور خراساني]

He may be too busy attending a hurried meeting of the Central Committee of the Pashtun Communist Party. It was convened to confront this excellent challenge from S. Khorasani - that's how the Sovs always write, using a first initial only.

I'm sure he is frantically consulting Marxist-Leninist ideologues to compose a reply.
Perhaps he is boarding the plane right now at Sheremetyevo Airport, Moscow.

He should be careful of those Antonovs and Ilyushins - the most dangerous aircraft in the world because they were made by Communist 'workers' - hence have a proclivity to fall apart in flight, especially as "Aeroflop" has a tendency to be too casual in regular maintenance.

LOL!

Tovarish Pashtun pashol razgavarit v polit buro!

[Catya Sher]

Thank you VERY much, Rihana.
I wasn't around in the earlier phases to witness those outbursts toward women and everybody.

A Punjabi? Really?
He doesn't have ANY of the Pashtun polite ways or good manners.
Too much of a braggart too.
None of it fits at all with how I think of Pashtun men

Is he in England, then? And is he visible on a youtube video ? I'd be curious to see who he is. IF the video shows this man. Or this child?

[شمله ور خراساني]

Thank you VERY much, Rihana.
I wasn't around in the earlier phases to witness those outbursts toward women and everybody.

A Punjabi? Really?
He doesn't have ANY of the Pashtun polite ways or good manners.
Too much of a braggart too.
None of it fits at all with how I think of Pashtun men

Is he in England, then? And is he visible on a youtube video ? I'd be curious to see who he is. IF the video shows this man. Or this child?

He does not wish people to share his youtube and liveleak videos on PF. He will complain to admin if anyone posts his videos.

[Catya Sher]

Re S.,

That sounds contradictory: a person who has that type of ego to post themself on public access video places refuses to be seen by PF audiences?
Perhaps he is ashamed rather than humble ?!

Speaking of poor taste of public personages. In your replies to T. Pashtun, you said things i had never heard ever about Zahir Shah. If this has already been discussed earlier on the forum, I apologize for bringing this up.
The usual adjective used to describe his life in Roma was "playboy". But I never EVER thought they meant anything on THIS scale ? Is that true? That really changed my ideas in a flash, if at all accurate. I thought he was harmless. Clearly not, IF this has any grounding in reality. Is his designated successor the same type?
EEK!

As for the T Pashtun, I believe that his plane was delayed first by the fact that two out of three pilots were not found sober enough to fly. Then the SVR came aboard, and afraid he was not sufficiently indoctrinated to defend himself on this thread, whisked him to visit Lenin's tomb for further inspiration.

They in turn were delayed by the processions of demonstrators waving banners and icons shouting demands for this monstrosity of a mausoleum be removed from Red Square without delay.
Moscow time, it's the all-important Orthodox Feast of the Dormition, so the crowds were quite heavy around nearby Kazan Cathedral.
I'm sure the comrade will soon be out of there, trailed by a few demons from the tomb...

[شمله ور خراساني]

Catya is killing me LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


When the communists raided the palace of Zahir Shah, the found a closet full of pictures and video's of him and his cheap European hookers in fancy poses. Most of those images were later recoverd by the members of Jamiyat Islami when they raided the palaces.

People claim that there were gay porn videos and images in his bedroom.

He also liked fast German and Italian cars. He use to drive around Kabul without bodyguards to the valleys and mountain lakes and take his cheap EUropean prostitutes with him.

A distant relative of ours was a hunter/farmer in Sarubi district. He use make arrangement for royal hunting days. He would even chase deers and lead them towards Zahir Shah's convoy on horseback so they could shoot the deer.

One day, he was chasing deers in the mountains when he managed to get really close to a deer. He never realized that his majesty wasn't interested in shooting deer. He used the poor farmers cloak to use it as a bedsheet on the rocks where he was having sex in open air with his blonde girlfriend.

There are many of such stories from people who met him in person. He was a dirtbag. And his regime was responsible for the killing of many intelectuals, political activists, civil rights activists, social workers, tribal leaders and religious figures.

[Catya Sher]

Oh my goodness gracious! I'm so glad you told me, I had no idea in the world.
I never liked his face. Now I know why...
Your story of the relative is incredible. Indisputable evidence.
Ew, so he didn't care a bit about the Afghan nation, he just was taking advantage of his position

I hate to admit this but I actually wavered about whether he would have been a good unifying figure to return. Even recently I was angry at Zalmay Khalilzad - there's plenty of OTHER cause for that anyway, though, so I'm still angry at him - for shoving aside zahir shah - no caps for him anymore - at the 2002 meeting. Of course, he didn't belong being there anyway, neither should the US ever have invaded.

My thought was that Karzai was a WORSE choice, so by comparison zahir shah would have been more reasonable.

Now I know. I'm still in shock ! What would a king of Afghanistan be doing with European prostitutes? It's unthinkable!
The only part that was ever publicized was the part about the cars. Of course, that's a very strong indication of serious problems with insecurity, having to drive those to be 'a man'.
Did the Communists publicize the pictures for anti-monarchy propaganda, or they kept quiet about them?
And yeah, he absolutely did nothing while many of his countrymen were rounded up, imprisoned and killed.
But I hadn't realized all THESE were. Really terrible!
One wonders too why he chose Italy and never budged from there, almost never paying his supporters visits to raise their morale.
What a loser.

[شمله ور خراساني]

No. His pictures were to obscene for the communists to publicize.

[BehavedMaseed]

I apologize for going off topic but catya. I apologize on his behalf. I always doubted if Maseed was a Pashtun. I can bet money he is a Punjabi. He is probably the same Army of Pakistan guy. Yes in our culture our men treat us women good. But obviously him lacking that quality is self-explanatory. I remember him even calling ladies here Lesbos. Real talk. He got banned for insulting hundreds of members. Now he is back with his usual practices. Don't take him serious, we all know how he is.

I agree with all you have said. He does that in every thread. He begins spamming a topic with pictures.

Does opposing the term Afghan mean your automattically a Punjabi.

You guys need to relax and stop ganging up on me.

Sangar knows me, Qurattgai knows me,Dawazai knows me in person and he knows my cousin in the UK who lived with him, BLS knows me and Lewanay Zalamay knows me.

Who will be Punjabi next? Luffy,Sher Khan, well you already called Nokia a Punjabi hahaha.

We are all 100 percent Pashtuns. So refrain from these conspiracy theories. You guys in Afghanistan seem to be more in love with Punjabis with your bollywood photos and posting their music then we the Nationalists.

Kind Regards