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  • No place for Baloch in Pakistan



    By Agha Amin


    While visiting Quetta just a day ago I was surprised to hear about attitudes of some key persons on the scene.

    Officer A-- The Baloch are charsis and good for nothing ?

    Officer B-- The Baloch dont work hard , look at the Pashtuns who are much better ?

    Officer C -- If your sub contractor is non Baloch he can get work ?

    The factual position is as following :--

    1- A large part of Pakistans work is based on baradari , ethnicity and sect.In this context the Baloch has no place.All anti smuggling government forces in Balochistan are Pashtun or Punjabi.The FC is 100 percent Pashtun although lately Punjabis have been introduced in FC through backdoor.Thus FC gives a free hand to Pashtun smugglers while Baloch are harassed.

    2-Pakistans foundation was not merit.So the Hindus and Sikhs were massacred in West Punjab so that an unfair advantage can be created for Punjabis.Thus properties and industries were grabbed free of cost in lahore and pindi.this is the merit that pakistanis talk about.

    3-Soon after partition in 1955 Balochistan Province was abolished and all decisions taken from lahore.All along till 1969.So what chance did Baloch have.Such was the discrimination that in 1973 nearly 100 % of Quetta police was non Baloch and mostly Punjabi.

    4-The story of military action in 1973-76 is well documented.

    4-After 1979 systematically Afghan refugees were given Pakistani NIC and demographic change encouraged.

    5-In 2002 Musharraf started Gwadar port , not for Baloch but to change the demography against Baloch.Similarly the Greater Kachi Canal was started to bring non Baloch settlers and turn the Baloch into minority in 2002.

    6-My research indicates that for each non Baloch killed in Quetta , a Baloch is killed next day ! So there is a pattern and Baloch are fast losing the war in face of officials who regard them as sub humans !

    I have seen Baloch in top positions in academia,technology,agriculture and military arts worldwide.

    In Afghanistan General Ghafoor a Baloch and a personal friend gave hell to Haqqani network under General Shahnawaz Tanai in Khost in 1986.Ghafur was decorated by President Karmal in a ceremony with Afghanistans highest awards.

    Baloch farmers worked wonders as settlers in South and West Punjab and in Sindh and even in many parts of Balochistan.

    This is not about merit but about sheer discrimination !

    It is the same discrimination that Punjabi and UP Muslims alleged against Hindus and Sikhs in pre 1947.

    The present Balochistan government lacks legitimacy because all main stream Baloch parties boycotted elections of 2008 because of outrages of the military usurper Musharraf .So the present chief minister is not a genuine Baloch representative at all.

    I asked a senior Intelligence Bureau official then dismissed in 2002 and now reinstated , as to what was his role in IB.He stated to make one tribe fight another !

    ZAB pitched Bugti against Marris ! Musharraf pitched South Baloch Gujjars like Jam Sahib against mainstream Baloch tribes and now we have Brahvis pitched against Marris and Bugtis.

    This is what is exactly happening in Balochistan with Aslam Raisani of Raisani tribe described by famous author Ron Suskind as agent of British and French Intelligence in his book Ways of the world !

    It is time to question these divisive and discriminatory policies.From what is happening in Balochistan one can see that it is neither fair nor just but a reincarnation of anarchy par excellence.

    My study reveals that those in charge of Balochistan and Balochistan policy see physical elimination,arbitrary arrest and disappearance as the answer and all this will fail.Even if this does not fail it will be remembered in history as genocide and injustice !

    So where is Islam and democracy here ?

    Instead of blaming Indians or Israel or USA, Pakistan's political elite needs to analyse its policies in Balochistan.

  • #2
    Baloch are basically out of Pakistan, they are at the point of no return. Or one of my favourite statements "crossing the rubicon".
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    • #3
      I am worried about Pashtuns of balochistan, i dont care about the cruel BLA and their pathetic movement.

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      • #4
        This is good news. Pakistan will soon disintegrate the minute Baluchis walk out.

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        • #5
          Whats wrong with people in Pakistan? Why wont they overthrow the government and get rid of those fascists?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by amna View Post
            This is good news. Pakistan will soon disintegrate the minute Baluchis walk out.
            Why Balochs not Pashtuns are in action against sacred Pakistan?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Luffy View Post
              Why Balochs not Pashtuns are in action against sacred Pakistan?
              Our enemy is Pakistan. So whether it be Baluch or Pakistan our goal is to see it disintegrate as Pakistan is the enemy for all Pashtuns.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by amna View Post
                Our enemy is Pakistan. So whether it be Baluch or Pakistan our goal is to see it disintegrate as Pakistan is the enemy for all Pashtuns.
                But magority of Pakistani Pashtuns are "jeevay jeevay pakistan" type. you are wrong in claiming that all pashtuns consider pakistan as their enemy.

                Beside balochs are worser than punjabis in terms of dealings.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Luffy View Post
                  But magority of Pakistani Pashtuns are "jeevay jeevay pakistan" type. you are wrong in claiming that all pashtuns consider pakistan as their enemy.

                  Beside balochs are worser than punjabis in terms of dealings.
                  Thats not true. This site is majority of Pashtuns from occupied Pashtunkhwa try saying that and many members of Pashtun Forums will argue elseways.

                  Look at Sher Khan he was jeevay jeevay Pakistan now try calling him a Pakistani. I was a guest user yesterday on my phone and I read Sher Khans post in which he even said "Dont call me a Pakistani, I am a Pashtun".

                  So that is your jeevay for you.

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                  • #10
                    I am not talking about e-world, visit k.pakhtunkhwa and observe for yourself, the pashtuns there will disappoint you.... pakistanism is still deep-rooted in them despite of all these military operations and exploitation of their rights.

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                    • #11
                      All the members who dislike Pakistan are in Pekhawar, Muhsina, Pir Rokhan, Khyaal, Sher Khan. I don't know what more to say. Pakistan is the enemy of us Pashtuns and I thank PF for teaching me that.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by amna View Post
                        This is good news. Pakistan will soon disintegrate the minute Baluchis walk out.
                        They've been trying to walk out for thirty years now. Why haven't they succeeded?

                        1) There are hardly 6 million Baloch in Pakistan as opposed to more than 70 million Punjabis. Therefore, they can't effectively carry out an independence movement against a foe that doesn't think twice before unleashing F-16s and artillery barrages on villages.

                        2) The Baloch are divided between tribes and clans. Many often go to war with each other still.

                        3) Some Baloch don't adhere to separatist ideas - they'd much rather have a settlement within the Pakistani framework. Like the Aghaz-e-Haqooq-i-Balochistan package, for example.

                        4) With the exception of a few, many tribal Baloch leaders have been bought by the federation. Even many pro-indepedence leaders are known to be utterly corrupt.

                        5) The last thing that Iran, with its own province of Sistan Balochistan, would want is an independent Balochistan. The key foreign power in the region, the United States, would also want a controlled Balochistan within Pakistan. Therefore, the Baloch separatists have no substantial help from anyone.


                        I was talking to a very informed pro-Pakistan friend and he said that Bangladesh would never have separated from Pakistan had it not been for the geographical distance. "Our army would have ensured that their rebellion died". The questions that comes up is that those people overwhelmingly wanted you out and wanted to be independent, what moral justification do you have to crush their national choice? What that basically means is that it's Punjab's policy to keep the land and the people can go to hell. Typical colonial mindset.
                        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by amna View Post
                          All the members who dislike Pakistan are in Pekhawar, Muhsina, Pir Rokhan, Khyaal, Sher Khan. I don't know what more to say. Pakistan is the enemy of us Pashtuns and I thank PF for teaching me that.
                          Correction: Muhsina is not Pashtun she is hindkowan.

                          Actually all those frm pakhtunkhwa chanting lar aw bar afghans know very well the ground realities....situation is hopeless for u afghans.

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                          • #14
                            Luffy Baloch have no claim over Pashtun areas...so there is no real issue. Most of them happen in Quetta, but after the 80s, they know their place in front of Pashtuns. Baloch know there area and Pashtuns know theres.

                            Luffy in terms of chanting ow jeevae jeevae I can't help or nor can any member if people want to stick their heads in the sand. People in swat did it, and they got their gift, people in qibaeel did it and they got their gifts. Them majority will actually have no problem swaying to any side the tide turns. So with the collapse of the state the choices change. The minority who are wholely pakistani are those who have interests in the army and bureacracy and those people are a very small minority (even smaller than the nationalists).
                            Last edited by BLS_1919v2.0; 08-21-2010, 12:11 AM.
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                            • #15
                              ^ and afghanistan is paradise for Pakhtuns? really? i mean seriously..lolz

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