I would like to join a Pashtun Nationalistic Party

[شمله ور خراساني]

Dont. You only become an enemy to your religion and your people by joining those proxies of Russia, America and INdia.

These Nationalists accuse Muslim movements of being proxies of Pakistan. But they themselves are biggest supporters of Russia America and India.

If you join them, you will never be of any use for the future of Afghanistan.

Nationalist parties are secularists. They are very impopular. And they don't have vast support from the people.

Do soemthing useful, finish your education, study your religion and other sciences. And move back to Afghanistan when you are done studying. There you can see with your own eyes who is who and whoe is doing what for Afghanistan.

There you will be able to make a better choice which group to join.

[Zarawar]

you are making a mistake!!!!!

Also, there are no such thing as nationalist pashtun party, they are all working for one or another cause, that benefits their own race. Try focusing on Islamic and patriotic movements!!

[Sheenka]

good luck

[شمله ور خراساني]

Your logic is incorrect. If it was not for Bengali nationalists they would have never seperated from Pakistan. Now look at Bangladesh they speak Bengali and they follow Islam.

Pashtuns will pray as well. But nationalism can help us bring Pashto back on track.

SIR. I have been on PF for 6 months now. I have read almost 100,000 posts. I know from right and wrong. We need nationalism to bring Pashto on track. Right now Pashto is declining because we are too busy saying "Who cares lets just go and pray"

YES we should pray but we must preserve our culture.

I have just adviced you. It is up to you if you take my advice or not. Since you think you know better, then ignore whatever I said and go ahead and join them.

[Mayana]

We want Pashtunistan with Islam as our main Religion.

This is an Islamic movement Zarawar. I am tired of seeing Hazaras kill Nomads in Wardak province. We need our own state where we speak Pashto.

Shlombayya,

it is interesting to see this and to read your signature right beneath it..
"Afghanistan day da tolo Pashtano Mor au Plar" ..

[شمله ور خراساني]

I love Islam. But I also love my people. I love my culture. I love my language.

You have never been to those areas of Afghanistan where our people are discriminated, I have. I dont want to see my people suffer.


If my great-great Kandaharis created Weesh Zalmyan. I will create a new Weesh Zalmyan.

What makes you say that?

You want to do something to defend your pashtuns from proescution?

Explain to me what Pashtun Nationalists have achieved in the past 9 years in Afghanistan?

My tribe has lost its property to Northern Alliance warlords in Kabul, Kunduz, Takhar and other areas.

I have not heard one Pashtun Nationalist raising a finger to help them.

But I did see this:

[Zarawar]

Don't worry about Wardaks, we have killed more Shias than any other race in the country. Nobody is complaining about that.....
Don't have any faith in nationalism my friend, it's going to eat you from inside out, it's going to make you a hate magnet. MARK MY WORDS!!
We pashtuns (wardaks) donot want to rely on any nationalism movement, our movement should be based on AFGHAN PATRIOTIC ISLAMISM!

[Zarawar]

Mog zan pa nationalistano na gato, da nationalistano ba sa nartob wee, tarwosa ye gata tsa da?

[Mayana]

After the videos you saw eh..
The internet is a beautiful place, it can show us many things, yet it can hide much more. It can show you all that has been done to Pashtuns and at the same time hide all that has been done by Pashtuns and vice versa.
Be careful in your judgment, wrora. All have made sacrifices for this country, you can't just kick Hazaras or Tajiks out because they don't speak your language or don't follow your Mazab. We are diverse and in that very variety is our beauty, our greatest strength - and unfortunately, our curse as well.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Loy Afghanistan. A state where Pashto is used the language of Pashtuns.

If Tajiks want to speak Tajiki or Dari Tajikistan is for them.
If Uzbeks want to speak Uzbeki Uzbekistan is for them.
If Hazaras want to practice Shia sect and speak Dari, Iran is for them.

We are a nation of 50 million. I love my Tajiks and Uzbeks but after the videos I saw of them hitting Pashtuns in our own land I am sad.

One video should not deter you and make you do something reactionary. There is no real benefit for Pashtuns to lose out the North, trust me, if Afghanistan is stable and sovreign kahlk pashtano tha trath ham nashee kawalae. Afghanistan maathae khabarae praegdae...pashto sam kae pa lar au bar kae ao khplwaakii ba gattoo.

[khyaal]

Dont. You only become an enemy to your religion and your people by joining those proxies of Russia, America and INdia.

These Nationalists accuse Muslim movements of being proxies of Pakistan. But they themselves are biggest supporters of Russia America and India.

If you join them, you will never be of any use for the future of Afghanistan.

Nationalist parties are secularists. They are very impopular. And they don't have vast support from the people.

Do soemthing useful, finish your education, study your religion and other sciences. And move back to Afghanistan when you are done studying. There you can see with your own eyes who is who and whoe is doing what for Afghanistan.

There you will be able to make a better choice which group to join.

Look Sangara! You sided with Americans and the whole Western world for a cause which unfortunately ended in the total destruction of Afghanistan. We are for a much greater cause; the restoration of the state of Afghanistan and the rehabilitation of Afghan people. Though this process will not be perfect but at least its lot better than the way you people chose which obviously could led to the complete annihilation of afghan nation.

[شمله ور خراساني]

Look Sangara! You sided with Americans and the whole Western world for a cause which unfortunately ended in the total destruction of Afghanistan. We are for a much greater cause; the restoration of the state of Afghanistan and the rehabilitation of Afghan people. Though this process will not be perfect but at least its lot better than the way you people chose which obviously could led to the complete annihilation of afghan nation.

Afghans accepted American help to fight of communists. If you are a communist then you are just as bad as the Americans anr Russians. And Afghans have every right to fight and oppose communists, russians and americans form enslaving our country.

THe thing is, you people do not believe in allah and his attributes. You expect progress and development to come from foreign aid. You are willing to let yourself and your country be enslaved by Russia and America in order to receive worldly gains.

BUt this is exactly why Muslims fight against people like you. Because you are for sell at any price to anyone. Because you people worship this life.

Muslims endure and suffer. Because Muslims believe in the afterlife. They do not bend over to any invader in the hope to gain worldy matters.

So what that Afghanistan is still in shambles? At least we are not enslaved and indoctrinated to abandon our religion and become like Pakistanis or Egyptians.

We have our dignity and our imaan still solid.

Go ahead and sell your souls to the devil and support crusaders and invaders.

ALlah grants victory to the steadfast. Not to the disbelievers who are allied with the kuffaar against Muslims.

Your support for America will give you shame in this life and the hereafter. You loose both.

At home you are considered as a traitor and a sell out. And in hereafter you will burn as a disbeliever in allah's qadr by expecting material gain from taghoot.

[Zarawar]

^^ yes!
Loy Afghanistan is our haq, it's not that we are going somewhere and taking over a prosperous land.

[شمله ور خراساني]

What are the goals of Afghan patriotic Islamism?

Are you working for Pashto?
Are you working on unifying us with our Afridis,Yusufzais and many other Afghan tribes?

our first and most important goal is to become a sovereing state. This requires removal of all foreign troops from Afghanistan. And their proxies. Once we are sovereign we can then demand reunification with pashtunkhwa.

How are we going to demand another piece of land when we do not have dominion over our own homes?

You get shot in your own house by americans. And nobody is going to prison for it. But at the same time you want to get pashtunkwha back?

you need to set your priorities straight and make a rational assement of the situation.

[khyaal]

Afghans accepted American help to fight of communists. If you are a communist then you are just as bad as the Americans anr Russians. And Afghans have every right to fight and oppose communists, russians and americans form enslaving our country.

THe thing is, you people do not believe in allah and his attributes. You expect progress and development to come from foreign aid. You are willing to let yourself and your country be enslaved by Russia and America in order to receive worldly gains.

BUt this is exactly why Muslims fight against people like you. Because you are for sell at any price to anyone. Because you people worship this life.

Muslims endure and suffer. Because Muslims believe in the afterlife. They do not bend over to any invader in the hope to gain worldy matters.

So what that Afghanistan is still in shambles? At least we are not enslaved and indoctrinated to abandon our religion and become like Pakistanis or Egyptians.

We have our dignity and our imaan still solid.

Go ahead and sell your souls to the devil and support crusaders and invaders.

ALlah grants victory to the steadfast. Not to the disbelievers who are allied with the kuffaar against Muslims.

Your support for America will give you shame in this life and the hereafter. You loose both.

At home you are considered as a traitor and a sell out. And in hereafter you will burn as a disbeliever in allah's qadr by expecting material gain from taghoot.

But you must know that interference in afghanistan had started long before the communists came to Afghanistan. In 1975 coup d'etat was planned from Pakistan through Gulbadin to overthrow Daud khan's government. Soviet's involvement was a trap for them to use Afghan land for the proxy war. Pakistan had a main role in arranging all this to destroy afghanistan the reasons of which we all know very well.