I would like to join a Pashtun Nationalistic Party

[Toramana]

Yes that is where u have laws and rules!!! Which apply to all.....not apply for poor people and leaders it doesn't apply. I am not a 5 year old kid that you are teaching me about not living in a utopian world....but i am not a PRESIDENT of a country, you are deluded my friend. I am not a leader therefore i think on my own level, i don't think on a leadership level because its a waste of time. Tell me are you gonna make people make some new rules?

I preach wat i am able to do myself, not some grand idea about a nation...dream on

What can be more idealistic than the the thinking that all people (100% of them) can reach the highest level of moral development and that there is no need for political struggle to help build a law-abiding society. Bravo.

Political struggle is a practical thing my fried better and more achievable than some utopian self-development of the whole human race. Moreover, political struggle is not contrary to self-development. The human rights charter that has enabled you to live on a foreign land with dignity and rights is the product of political struggle.

[Toramana]

Show me another religion which puts a limit on the amount of spouses/wives that are allowed. In fact, quote any religous scripture and show me this.

Having one wife is not Christian, Jewish or Hindi law, it's the law of their countries.



And exactly where does the bible/torah/sanscript prevent slavery?

Slave = Servant; FYI in Islam they have rights, and it is encouraged that slaves be set free.

Get real and stop taking things outta context.

Here, it isn't the comparison between religions. It is between religious approach and modern political thinking and struggle. If it were not for modern political struggle, you would not be concurring with na-Muharams on this forum because in Islam that is not allowed to women.

[ijaz yousafzai]

So much garbage, so much racism, so much hatred in everyone's heart, so much poison filled in everyone's blood, so much ignorance, so much prejudice, so much division, so much disunity, so much disappointment, so much sadness, and so much hopelessness for a better future.

The order of the day. Feroza_Bano! You are living far off( in Shaanti) and do not feel the melting heat. What you call " racism, prejudice bla bla bla", is in fact " love for one's nation", like you love your kith n kin.

[JAMALUDEEN]

Ijaz, would you murder innocent people, for your nation like Hitler did?

[Feroza_Banu]

The order of the day. Feroza_Bano! You are living far off( in Shaanti) and do not feel the melting heat. What you call " racism, prejudice bla bla bla", is in fact " love for one's nation", like you love your kith n kin.

I have deep love for my nation; and for that I don't have to start hating other innocent people!

Where I come from, the type of low life, racist, extremist, and 'be adab' people that are in this forum(some of coures), are considered to be product of very low, and uneducated upbringing.

The type of language that is used to communicate in this forum is enough for me to rest my case

[ijaz yousafzai]

Ijaz, would you murder innocent people, for your nation like Hitler did?

I hope you know the difference among " Nationalism", "Chauvinism" and "Fascism". The later two philosophies are based on supermacy and hatred while the former is positive persuit based on benign love and affinity with one's nation without harming others, provided the others remain in their rightful domain.

[Saifullah]

The thiings u all claim u wanna achieve with nationalism,can be achieved without it...thats the irony of it all...lol

[JAMALUDEEN]

I hope you know the difference among " Nationalism", "Chauvinism" and "Fascism". The later two philosophies are based on supermacy and hatred while the former is positive persuit based on benign love and affinity with one's nation without harming others, provided the others remain in their rightful domain.

dude, believing that your nation is better than another nation is evident enough, that it is racism, in this case, it can be seen from the alias of the party (THE PASHTUN NATIONALIST PARTY) which presents Pashtuns to be superior over all others. That is what Hitler thought, his nation, his race, his culture, superior to all others, and this is racism for you in three dimensional. It's like a disease, if not treated in time, will lead to bigger social problems.

Who is going to represent the minority?

On the other hand, i might back a party that would not just look after the welfare of the Pashtuns, but everyone else as well, living in the vicinities under their control, by that i mean the other ethnicities.

[ijaz yousafzai]

dude, believing that your nation is better than another nation is evident enough, that it is racism, in this case, it can be seen from the alias of the party (THE PASHTUN NATIONALIST PARTY) which presents Pashtuns to be superior over all others. That is what Hitler thought, his nation, his race, his culture, superior to all others, and this is racism for you in three dimensional. It's like a disease, if not treated in time, will lead to bigger social problems.

Who is going to represent the minority?

On the other hand, i might back a party that would not just look after the welfare of the Pashtuns, but everyone else as well, living in the vicinities under their control, by that i mean the other ethnicities.

jamaludeen! you are again confusing Nationalism with the Fascist political movement of Hitler.

[JAMALUDEEN]

The thiings u all claim u wanna achieve with nationalism,can be achieved without it...thats the irony of it all...lol

They like to complicate simple matters.. No wonder, most of these political theorists were either alcoholics or financially broken people who had rough childhoods. LOL

[Saifullah]

It amazes me they debate for hours writing essays, if they just understand that one sentence i wrote it shatters their whole concept!

They say we need rights, we need justice and so on. Thats why we need nationalism, but you do not. Actually nationalism is what has ruined our nation and people

[ijaz yousafzai]

They like to complicate simple matters.. No wonder, most of these political theorists were either alcoholics or financially broken or had rough childhoods. LOL

I wish we could get some angelic persons from the heaven!

[Saifullah]

Well we have scriptures from the heaven, which if you followed will solve all your problems.

[JAMALUDEEN]

jamaludeen! you are again confusing Nationalism with the Fascist political movement of Hitler.

dude, i have studied sociology. I know what they mean, what i am telling you wror jan is that Nationalism will lead to racism, then i gave you the example of the "Pashtun Nationalist Party" < which just shows pure racism, the name, because it ignores everyone else, it shows that Pashtuns are superior to others, and ignores other ethnicities because they are inferior.

And, the two world wars (WW1, WW2) were nationalism based wars. I can't make it any more simpler than this.

[JAMALUDEEN]

It amazes me they debate for hours writing essays, if they just understand that one sentence i wrote it shatters their whole concept!

They say we need rights, we need justice and so on. Thats why we need nationalism, but you do not. Actually nationalism is what has ruined our nation and people

dude, i could produce plenty of examples to shatter these nationalists dreams, but that is, if they are willing to listen.