Pak Def For

[Firdousi]

Just visited PDF after a long long time and it truly amazes me how stupid Pakistani nationalists are. Their lack of basic knowledge, intelligence and coherence is shocking. They kinda remind me of [MENTION=1444]Azmal[/MENTION]

The thing I found really hilarious is that there is a general state of euphoria over Taliban engaging in talks with regional countries such as Iran, Russia, KSA or UAE. For some reason they believe this is actually a Pakistani victory or something when the harsh truth is that by engaging in talks with those countries the Taliban movement is legitimizing itself, not Pakistan. For almost three decades the Taliban had this problem: lack of international recognition. Nobody acknowledged their government as legitimate so they had to rely on Pakistan on everything.

Now this is changing. All regional powers, the Afg government included, agree that the Taliban can not be defeated by military means and that they are a force to reckon with. By doing so all the Pakistani leverage, as the sole Taliban state backer, is waining. The Taliban now can operate with more legitimacy and freedom without relying on Pakistan,

In their stupidity, Pakistanis believe that the Taliban are their proxy force and that they are really fighting for Pakistan. Even Pakistanis have bought the Jamiati propaganda. The thing is that the Taliban have a cause, whether we like it or not its irrelevant, and they are fighting for it. Not for Pakistan.

Its just unbelievable how f*cked up Pakistan is tbh. This country had such powerful and smart policy just few decades ago and now its just a sh*thole unable to understand basic geopolitics.

[randolph85]

Pakis have a bizarre idea that Pashtuns are inherently pro Paki and anti Paki Pashtuns are pro “northern alliance,” a term and alliance that hasn’t been relevant in almost 20 years and when it was relevant only lasted a few years.

Tajiks were just as close to Paki circles in the 80s because the same reason Pashtuns were then and the 90s, when you are backed into a corner you take help where you can get it if you think the ends justify the means, right or wrong. Talibs know they need Paki sanctuary to continue their fight so they won’t bite the hand that feeds them but it’s not out of love for the Paki state or Jinnah or Paki folktales of being inheritors of the Mughal empire.

It’s a case of taking pride in others victories or struggles and trying to attach a Paki narrative to it to make it their victory and struggle while not shedding blood or exhausting resources. When they do actually sacrifice and fight, they lose wars and half their country.

These people are Indian but have done a spectacular job of proving the 2 nation theory correct. While their Indian big bros are becoming scientists and doctors, Pakis excel at being scam artists, rapists, dollar store extremists. I have a low opinion of Indians so this should tell you what I think of their lil bros

[Friends of Baloch]

The below says it all about punjabis and what they think about themselves and what they fantasize about wanting to be:

[Friends of Baloch]

Another paki cringe.

[Friends of Baloch]

And another.




Pakis... What did their own President General "Ji" say?

[Samandri]

Another paki cringe.

Indo-Greeks ended up becoming lungmaar. Greeks should divert their attention from Kalasha to Punjab ;

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

I wish someone would do an 23 and Me/AncestryDNA test on everyone that makes posts like that.

I would love to be there to see the shock and trauma that emerges when the results are revealed.

[Firdousi]

I wish someone would do an 23 and Me/AncestryDNA test on everyone that makes posts like that.

I would love to be there to see the shock and trauma that emerges when the results are revealed.

Like they care, man. Most of these nationalist nutjobs dont care about reason. Cognitive dissonance. They would just reject and ignore the facts.

BTW I have been considering a DNA test but for some reason I find most of these tests a but fishy and unreliable. A Spaniard friend of mine did a test few years ago and I saw it was too simplistic with categories such as "northern African" or "Middle Eastern" origins. Simplistic labels for ethnically diverse regions. I need to find a reliable lab.

[Firdousi]

This fella is a bit angry and shocked because Turkey is involved in the lapislazuli corridor. For some reason Pakistani nationalists believe everybody should love them and dont engage in trade with other nations because Pakistani ego demands you so. Of course he minds his language after all he doesnt want to make his Turkish lords angry lol

"Turkey being part of Laips Luzli is kinda concerning then again thats how I look at it first they supported the NA, this and in NATO well I have nothing against the Turks they are good ally at times but if you look at it the PRC is the closets ally Pak has now"

Lapis Lazuli Corridor: Reconnecting Central Asia and Afghanistan

[Firdousi]

Lmao this one is quite hilarious too. A deluded Pakistani nationalists claims that "Afghanistan is Pakistan´s backyard" (comment n 60) but an Iranian guy bitchslaps him hard (63). Freaking priceless lol:

"For Pakistan it is a different history and geopolitical reality, as Afghanistan has always been our backyard since Dilli Sultanat and Mughal times. We are bounded on the Northeast and West by friendly nations, China and Iran respectively, and on the east by a mortal enemy. To prevent being sandwiched between Afghanistan and India, we have to be involved.·

"More like Pakistan is the backyard of Afghans and Indians than the other way around. Moghals werent Pakistanis, they are Mongol and Turkic people that conquered your forefathers and ruled them.

Anyway i dont think much of Afghanistan as a country but i find it hilarious that a Pakistani could try to call them as your 'backyard' when most of Afghanistan has nothing to do with Indian subcontient people and actually people from what is today Afghanistan have historically conquered and looted Pakistan many times in history and sold your people as slaves in the markets of Central Asia. The mountains in eastern Afghanistan became known as Hindu Kosh in Persian from the verb koshtan for that reason: Hindu Kosh = Indian killer in Persian, because during the medival period slaves taken from Pakistan by Iranian and Turkic invaders mostly died in the mountains separating the Irano-Turkic world from the Indian one as the climate and natural environments of the two are so different."


2 years ago: Iran Almost Invaded Afghanistan in 1998 | Page 5

[jama0112]

Like they care, man. Most of these nationalist nutjobs dont care about reason. Cognitive dissonance. They would just reject and ignore the facts.

BTW I have been considering a DNA test but for some reason I find most of these tests a but fishy and unreliable. A Spaniard friend of mine did a test few years ago and I saw it was too simplistic with categories such as "northern African" or "Middle Eastern" origins. Simplistic labels for ethnically diverse regions. I need to find a reliable lab.

IDK if this helps, but there's a site called "anthrogenica", there seem to be a lot of people with great knowlegde concerning DNA-tests, and one of them is a paki pahstun(i don't remember his name), he seems, at least to me, to have some knowlegde about DNA-tests as well.

Just ask the people there. They might help you.

Also, you're herati, right?