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    I have been reading alot about demographics of Afghanistan, and i see a trend:
    Pashtun population which before invasion of Russia was considered to be as high as 70%, was manipulated to underscore pashtuns, as they were the primary resistance towards russain invasion.

    Then came the likes of Burhanuddine Rabbani and Ahmad Shah Massod, who naturally continued the practice.

    After which came the Americans. The credibility of CIA fact book is also questionable as before the invasion they were showing pashtun population above 50% and than during invasion it even went down to 38% before going back to 42% over the years??!!! Plus whats interesting to note is that even today CIA fact book shows Pashtun as 8% of the population of Pakistan, while Pakistan's own census 1998 (not estimation) shows Pashtuns more than 15.4% and as per Census 2017 they are well exceeding 18%. 18% includes pashtuns that speak pashto, that number can reach 25% if Pashtuns such as Hazarawal Pathans, Punjabi Pathans, Kashmiri Pathans etc etc are included.

    The Pashtun Areas in the Northern Afghanistan consists of rivers, where they were resettled by King Abdul Rehman and these areas, obviously, have larger population densities.

    General practice of counting anyone and everyone who cannot speak pashto, which may even include Pashtuns, as Tajiks has been encouraged.

    Historically, Herat has been called a Tajik city surrounded by Pashtuns, with significant Aimak and Farsiwan minority. Similarly, there has been no conclusive evidence of settling of Tajiks in Badghis or north western Afghanistan, but continuously other ethnic groups primarily, Aimaks, Kazalbash, Farsiwans, Arabs etc. have been counted as Tajiks, thereby bundling them all togather as Tajiks and propping up Tajik population. Also remember Iraq was said to be evenly distributed between shia and sunni, than at the time of invasion it was branded as a Shia country. They have successfully turned Sunni City of baghdad into Shia. They will be propping up Shia population in Afghanistan as well, soon.

    The population of non-pashtun areas has been exaggerated even if they are in the center of the country or any such areas that cannot support higher population density, which results in under representation of pashtun population in percentages. If we look at the Crop data of Afghanistan we will see that the province on the edges produces more than 2 crops a year while the provinces in the center and towards north east produces just one or a maximum of two, which again points towards low population density in the center and north east i.e. Hazara and Tajik areas.

    Then comes the histroy. Jamaludin Afghani, Ghilzai, Turis, Suri anyone or anything which is Pashtun and present pashtuns/Afghans in better light has been rebranded as someone else or the matter has been confused.

    Majority of riverbanks and delta in Afghanistan have been populated by Pashtuns and thats a fact. How can Badakshan and Daikundi etc have same population as Kandahar or Helmand? and how can Takhar or Ghazni have same population as Nangarhar??

    Pashtuns in Afghanistan makes around 60-65% of the Population, Tajiks are between 15-18%, Hazara and Uzbeks are between 7-9%.

    TIGER KHAN: Under-representation of Pashtun population

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    And no i am not racist, just getting the record staight

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ironhide View Post
      I have been reading alot about demographics of Afghanistan, and i see a trend:
      Pashtun population which before invasion of Russia was considered to be as high as 70%, was manipulated to underscore pashtuns, as they were the primary resistance towards russain invasion.

      Then came the likes of Burhanuddine Rabbani and Ahmad Shah Massod, who naturally continued the practice.

      After which came the Americans. The credibility of CIA fact book is also questionable as before the invasion they were showing pashtun population above 50% and than during invasion it even went down to 38% before going back to 42% over the years??!!! Plus whats interesting to note is that even today CIA fact book shows Pashtun as 8% of the population of Pakistan, while Pakistan's own census 1998 (not estimation) shows Pashtuns more than 15.4% and as per Census 2017 they are well exceeding 18%. 18% includes pashtuns that speak pashto, that number can reach 25% if Pashtuns such as Hazarawal Pathans, Punjabi Pathans, Kashmiri Pathans etc etc are included.

      The Pashtun Areas in the Northern Afghanistan consists of rivers, where they were resettled by King Abdul Rehman and these areas, obviously, have larger population densities.

      General practice of counting anyone and everyone who cannot speak pashto, which may even include Pashtuns, as Tajiks has been encouraged.

      Historically, Herat has been called a Tajik city surrounded by Pashtuns, with significant Aimak and Farsiwan minority. Similarly, there has been no conclusive evidence of settling of Tajiks in Badghis or north western Afghanistan, but continuously other ethnic groups primarily, Aimaks, Kazalbash, Farsiwans, Arabs etc. have been counted as Tajiks, thereby bundling them all togather as Tajiks and propping up Tajik population. Also remember Iraq was said to be evenly distributed between shia and sunni, than at the time of invasion it was branded as a Shia country. They have successfully turned Sunni City of baghdad into Shia. They will be propping up Shia population in Afghanistan as well, soon.

      The population of non-pashtun areas has been exaggerated even if they are in the center of the country or any such areas that cannot support higher population density, which results in under representation of pashtun population in percentages. If we look at the Crop data of Afghanistan we will see that the province on the edges produces more than 2 crops a year while the provinces in the center and towards north east produces just one or a maximum of two, which again points towards low population density in the center and north east i.e. Hazara and Tajik areas.

      Then comes the histroy. Jamaludin Afghani, Ghilzai, Turis, Suri anyone or anything which is Pashtun and present pashtuns/Afghans in better light has been rebranded as someone else or the matter has been confused.

      Majority of riverbanks and delta in Afghanistan have been populated by Pashtuns and thats a fact. How can Badakshan and Daikundi etc have same population as Kandahar or Helmand? and how can Takhar or Ghazni have same population as Nangarhar??

      Pashtuns in Afghanistan makes around 60-65% of the Population, Tajiks are between 15-18%, Hazara and Uzbeks are between 7-9%.

      TIGER KHAN: Under-representation of Pashtun population
      According to the numbers I am taking out of my a*s right now, Pashtuns make up 4%, Uzbeks make up 6%, Tajiks make up 59% and Hazaras, the one true native people of this land, make up 349%. And if you disagree with this, it means there is a weird American-Northern Alliance-Iranian-Pakistani-Indian conspiracy against me. Checkmate world.
      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

      -Ferdowsi.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
        According to the numbers I am taking out of my a*s right now, Pashtuns make up 4%, Uzbeks make up 6%, Tajiks make up 59% and Hazaras, the one true native people of this land, make up 349%. And if you disagree with this, it means there is a weird American-Northern Alliance-Iranian-Pakistani-Indian conspiracy against me. Checkmate world.
        Its pretty obvious where you got these numbers, you didnt had to mention that.

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        • #5
          Punjabi makes sense, but i have never met another pahstun who looks like an indian.
          I always thought i look paki/indian, but even pakis can see i'm afghan.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jama0112 View Post
            Punjabi makes sense, but i have never met another pahstun who looks like an indian.
            I always thought i look paki/indian, but even pakis can see i'm afghan.
            When indics write you can smell the curry Even from the text. I know this because im indic myself.

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            • #7
              I'm just saying we can(very few of us) look like punjabis and even some of them can look like us, which isn't impossible. But it is impossible with indians passing as us/we can pass like them.

              If you think i'm not a pahstun and a desi pashtun-wannabe, it's up to you. I don't really care much about it.

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              • #8
                The answer is that no one knows. There has been no census in like 40 years and who knows how legit that was. You could look at voting trends in the presidential elections based on the assumption that people mostly vote based on ethnic lines but then again, there is massive fraud.
                There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                Sayyid Qutb

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                • #9
                  I always wondered who is that guy as your profile pic?

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                  • #10
                    Key "positions" including "presidency" were in the hands of Pashtuns. That too were mostly kabuli pashtuns,logar,paktia,kandahar,nangrhar and wardak.
                    Other pashtuns share in power was ignored. For example pashtuns from Ghazni ,kunduz, kunar,herat,balkh,helmand,farah.
                    We cant say that those key figures had any power as jamiat e Islami, junbush Islami ,wahdat Islami and now also hizb e Islami are the real power holders and as corrupt. Most of these groups apart from hizb are made on ethnic nationalism, for example jamiat is tajik , junbush is uzbek, wahdat hazara.

                    These groups are also the ones who are quick to use the ethnic card against a majority "pashtun government".

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jama0112 View Post
                      I always wondered who is that guy as your profile pic?

                      hassan al banna
                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                      Sayyid Qutb

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                      • #12
                        every Afghanistan mofo looks like some light skin Indian, I tell you I have seen more of you mofos lately, and you are all getting on my nerves.

                        Aryan my ass. to you pasty white pashtuns, know this, I hate nothing more than white european monkeys. I would not miss these mofos if 2 comets were to hit Europe and North America. we indians have made these monkeys civilized. every white mother****er will see the dark of our skins in 2050.

                        roles will be reversed in future:

                        this picture people taunt us with will be reversed,



                        we will have white *******s everywhere kissing our black indian feets soon. u mofos pray to god, we are tired by the time we get to you.
                        Last edited by UnknownUser; 09-27-2018, 01:42 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Huh, I didn't knew you liked the muslim brotherhood.

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                          • #14
                            Calm down, take your pills, then get off from PF. It doesn't seem healthy for you staying here in this forum, if you aren't trolling.

                            Then go outside and get a life.
                            It isn't good for you thinking so much about this stuff.

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