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  • Russia warns UK: "WE WILL NOT BE SPOKEN TO IN THAT LANGUAGE"

    Russia warns UK: "WE WILL NOT BE SPOKEN TO IN THAT LANGUAGE"

    Russia tells UK after spy poisoning claims: 'We will not be spoken to in that language' | The Independent

    I am 100% sure Russia is behind this attack even when UK failed to provide any evidence. Every few months Russia is testing Western resolve. They know West is crumbling so they are waiting for the right time to strike. Once they make sure that Western unity is gone we will see a Russian campaign in the Baltic countries.

    For now main Western nations (UK, France, Germany and USA) have blamed Russia and are even willing to impose further sanctions on that country. But this is a temporary honeymoon. Election of Trump, Brexit and rise of populist movements in Europe have f*cked up the West badly. In my opinion by 2020 or 2021 we might see a Russian invasion of some eastern European countries. Its a amtter of time.
    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

    -Ferdowsi.

  • #2
    This is normal spy games. In the old days, they would cover up and not make a big deal when one spy dies or is killed. Some powerful entities inside the West are making a big deal to have excuses to impose more sanctions on Russia. Prob the MIC, have excuses to make more weapons even though Russia has been defeated(contracting) and is on the defensive.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by khushal View Post
      This is normal spy games. In the old days, they would cover up and not make a big deal when one spy dies or is killed. Some powerful entities inside the West are making a big deal to have excuses to impose more sanctions on Russia. Prob the MIC, have excuses to make more weapons even though Russia has been defeated(contracting) and is on the defensive.
      I dont think so. Its the first time that Russia uses a chemical substance in a Western country. Spy games are part of the game we all agree and it used to be way more fancy and sophisticated in Cold War but now times have changed but the mentality of these countries have not.

      Also I dont think Russia is on the defensive. Its actaully actively fighting Western influence in what it considers its own sphere of influence. But in general Russia is a paper tiger.
      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

      -Ferdowsi.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
        I dont think so. Its the first time that Russia uses a chemical substance in a Western country. Spy games are part of the game we all agree and it used to be way more fancy and sophisticated in Cold War but now times have changed but the mentality of these countries have not.

        Also I dont think Russia is on the defensive. Its actaully actively fighting Western influence in what it considers its own sphere of influence. But in general Russia is a paper tiger.

        Well, fighting for its old sphere of influence is purey defensive. You have to consider that eventhough the SU got splitted, peopledidn'tget splittedtha fast, there arestillmany connections between ex SU countries, so Russia just defends its connection, while bing more and more surrounded by NATO and so on. For sure they don't have a plan to rule the world, even technically it is impossible.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
          I dont think so. Its the first time that Russia uses a chemical substance in a Western country. Spy games are part of the game we all agree and it used to be way more fancy and sophisticated in Cold War but now times have changed but the mentality of these countries have not.

          Also I dont think Russia is on the defensive. Its actaully actively fighting Western influence in what it considers its own sphere of influence. But in general Russia is a paper tiger.
          What about litvinenko or something
          He was also poisoned by a chemical agent.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Akbar View Post
            What about litvinenko or something
            He was also poisoned by a chemical agent.
            Probably there are other cases too. Who knows ho many get investigated properly.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Qami View Post
              Probably there are other cases too. Who knows ho many get investigated properly.
              There are some brainwashed people around here who think Russians weren't involved in this, and I mean British people.

              They also don't believe that Russia has been killing Syrians with barrel bombs and sarin gas. The extreme leftist propaganda and Russian state propaganda of channels such as RT has worked on many.

              Russians are actually digging in in London.
              In central London which is the most expensive part of London and most likely UK the Russians have been buying properties , they are buying whole streets and paying more than double for those properties. Keep in mind those houses cost wel over 10 million pounds. After buying they build downwards many stories as building upwards isn't allowed in there. Who knows what the actual plan of Russians is.

              Btw another rich Russian and critic of Putin was found dead.
              He was hanged to make it look like a suicide. He was killed in South London.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Akbar View Post
                There are some brainwashed people around here who think Russians weren't involved in this, and I mean British people.

                They also don't believe that Russia has been killing Syrians with barrel bombs and sarin gas. The extreme leftist propaganda and Russian state propaganda of channels such as RT has worked on many.

                Russians are actually digging in in London.
                In central London which is the most expensive part of London and most likely UK the Russians have been buying properties , they are buying whole streets and paying more than double for those properties. Keep in mind those houses cost wel over 10 million pounds. After buying they build downwards many stories as building upwards isn't allowed in there. Who knows what the actual plan of Russians is.

                Btw another rich Russian and critic of Putin was found dead.
                He was hanged to make it look like a suicide. He was killed in South London.
                Uk in Russia is famous being a save heaven for russian mafia chiefs, oligarchs, thieves and putin critics. Specially that most putin critics abroad are not some sincere people but theifs that got some relation to the yeltsin government and got in conflict with putin. all those people transfer all the stolen money to uk,that's why you see them buy expensive homes and cars and ships.
                Basically Uk is a famous destination for such people.


                Uk in Russia is famous being a save heaven for russian mafia chiefs, oligarchs, thieves and putin critics. Specially that most putin critics abroad are not some sincere people but theifs that got some relation to the yeltsin government and got in conflict with putin. all those people transfer all the stolen money to uk,that's why you see them buy expensive homes and cars and ships.
                Basically Uk is a famous destination for such people.

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                • #9
                  From Russia With Blood: 14 Suspected Hits On British Soil That The Government Ignored

                  There has been also many chechen rebel leaders that have been assassinated outside of Russia. There were 4 that were killed in Turkey a couple of years ago.

                  The Israelis would target Nazi leaders that had escaped, they would either kidnap them and transport them to Israel for a trial or kill them. Israelis agents would also kill PLO and Hamas leaders in Europe and the Middle East.

                  The Saudis do this to. They kidnap or kill princes that go rogue.
                  Saudi Arabia's missing princes - BBC News

                  The Soviets used to kill many agents that were suspected of being double agents for the CIA.

                  Old spy games;

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by khushal View Post
                    From Russia With Blood: 14 Suspected Hits On British Soil That The Government Ignored

                    There has been also many chechen rebel leaders that have been assassinated outside of Russia. There were 4 that were killed in Turkey a couple of years ago.

                    The Israelis would target Nazi leaders that had escaped, they would either kidnap them and transport them to Israel for a trial or kill them. Israelis agents would also kill PLO and Hamas leaders in Europe and the Middle East.

                    The Saudis do this to. They kidnap or kill princes that go rogue.
                    Saudi Arabia's missing princes - BBC News

                    The Soviets used to kill many agents that were suspected of being double agents for the CIA.

                    Old spy games;

                    North Korea is master of such kidnapings

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Akbar View Post
                      What about litvinenko or something
                      He was also poisoned by a chemical agent.
                      Also Snowden. And many other cases we ignore. As Khushal said its an old spy game. But now they are being publicly displayed by retarded politicians.
                      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                      -Ferdowsi.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Qami View Post
                        Well, fighting for its old sphere of influence is purey defensive. You have to consider that eventhough the SU got splitted, peopledidn'tget splittedtha fast, there arestillmany connections between ex SU countries, so Russia just defends its connection, while bing more and more surrounded by NATO and so on. For sure they don't have a plan to rule the world, even technically it is impossible.
                        Thats not true, dude. The liberal order was created to end the spheres of influence. Also Russia´s sphere of influence doesnt finish in Ukraine.. it begins in there. Once Ukraine falls, Baltic countries, Poland, some Balkan states will follow suit.

                        I believe people dont really understand how American imperialism works: USA is in eastern Europe not only to pursuit his own interest but also because all regional countries want the USA to get involved in there. Baltic countries, Poland, Ukraine, Georgia, want to be part of the West. Russia is a kleptrcatic sh*thole can offer absolutely nothing to them.

                        Same in the ME: GCC, Israel, are happy with the USA. In the far east, Japan, SK, Philippines (not with Duterte, but historically), even ironically Vietnam, are happy with the USA in there keeping Chinese rise at bay.
                        "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                        I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                        -Ferdowsi.

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                        • #13
                          Listen bro, I know many may turn my words upside down and lable me now as pro Putin or communist or whatever, but listen once to me. Many countris you listed (Georgia, Ukraine, Russia) and some You idn't list (Armenia, Kazakhstan) i know not from news but from my own life.
                          And assuming like western propagada shows You that all dream that US comes is very infantile.

                          Even Georgia that is in conflict with Russia doesn't dream about the US and many more and more dislike that their country got a playgound of imperial interests.

                          Actually the whole world is becoming a US influence sphere, so don't say there are no influence spheres. If in Armeniaor Tajikistan the majority are Armenians and Tajiks, Ukraine has same significance to Russia as Pashtunkhwa to Pashtuns, because people are related and intermarried.

                          So dreaming to break contacts with your relatives and have a war is not a wish of any and to loose contact is neither their wish, it is aggressive NATO politics and stupid Russia politics that brought to those conflicts sponsoring or helping to racist governments or corrupt governments to rule.

                          Russia may have its problems, but it has a good positive thing, as an ethnic minority inside Russia you have far more rights than in any other concentrated region of minorities in the world. In fact Russia is made of many in parallel living societies, what is both good and bad, because there is no unity.

                          As all empires it has a bloody history, butdemonizing Russia like is done sometimes, isalso wrong. Many things are blamed on russia thataren't right and may aren't blamed, that should be.

                          But to me as Armenian, to many Georgians i know, and many Kazakhs, Tajiks, Uzbeks, even if they dislike Russia it isn't at all a dream to live under the US model.

                          And yes, ex-SU has a common history of 75 years, and before that as russian empire, so sure it isn't tha way, that the division doesn't have consequencs. For all of us theconsequences were hard and many westerners used that situation to deepen conflicts , pure oil in the fire and use us, as they did with Afghanistan.
                          And while SU did a cruel invasion in Afghanistan, the West was all o glad about that and is glad now to have a nice playground of instability, but Afghans have to pay the price for it.

                          That Russia has any plans and chances with its 140 Mio population to expand is a big fairytale, but of the big ones.
                          It is the remaining of a fallen empire, with its errors and problems, but not what media portray.

                          Things aren't just black and white bro...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Qami View Post
                            Listen bro, I know many may turn my words upside down and lable me now as pro Putin or communist or whatever, but listen once to me. Many countris you listed (Georgia, Ukraine, Russia) and some You idn't list (Armenia, Kazakhstan) i know not from news but from my own life.
                            And assuming like western propagada shows You that all dream that US comes is very infantile.

                            Even Georgia that is in conflict with Russia doesn't dream about the US and many more and more dislike that their country got a playgound of imperial interests.

                            Actually the whole world is becoming a US influence sphere, so don't say there are no influence spheres. If in Armeniaor Tajikistan the majority are Armenians and Tajiks, Ukraine has same significance to Russia as Pashtunkhwa to Pashtuns, because people are related and intermarried.

                            So dreaming to break contacts with your relatives and have a war is not a wish of any and to loose contact is neither their wish, it is aggressive NATO politics and stupid Russia politics that brought to those conflicts sponsoring or helping to racist governments or corrupt governments to rule.

                            Russia may have its problems, but it has a good positive thing, as an ethnic minority inside Russia you have far more rights than in any other concentrated region of minorities in the world. In fact Russia is made of many in parallel living societies, what is both good and bad, because there is no unity.

                            As all empires it has a bloody history, butdemonizing Russia like is done sometimes, isalso wrong. Many things are blamed on russia thataren't right and may aren't blamed, that should be.

                            But to me as Armenian, to many Georgians i know, and many Kazakhs, Tajiks, Uzbeks, even if they dislike Russia it isn't at all a dream to live under the US model.

                            And yes, ex-SU has a common history of 75 years, and before that as russian empire, so sure it isn't tha way, that the division doesn't have consequencs. For all of us theconsequences were hard and many westerners used that situation to deepen conflicts , pure oil in the fire and use us, as they did with Afghanistan.
                            And while SU did a cruel invasion in Afghanistan, the West was all o glad about that and is glad now to have a nice playground of instability, but Afghans have to pay the price for it.

                            That Russia has any plans and chances with its 140 Mio population to expand is a big fairytale, but of the big ones.
                            It is the remaining of a fallen empire, with its errors and problems, but not what media portray.

                            Things aren't just black and white bro...
                            I do agree with you. There is a lot of hypocrisy, double standards and doublespeak in the Western world. Also nobody is buying this democracy, pacifism and human rights mumbo jumbo anymore. This civ is by far the most militaristic, materialistic and violent in human history. Their crimes are pretty well known. West is out of credit.

                            BUT. Thats the dark side. There is also a bright side. The liberal order is by far the most sophisticated and successful system ever created. We live by far in the best moment in human history when it comes to rights, fight on poverty and human dignity. And we should thanks the West for that. I live in a Western country which has given to me everything: freedom to speak my language and practice my faith, get an education, work with equal rights, etc. And asked me absolutely nothing in return. So a Western country has given me more than my own country. I cant really complain about Western societies.

                            I dont buy this story regarding non Western countries being morally better places. Nobody wants to live in Russia. There are more mosques in any large American city than in the entire Russia. Its true that there is a lot of propagand and hysteria when it comes to RUssia, but Russia is even worse. I mean RT, Sputnik or Interwhatever are pure crap for retarded lefties, alt right and south Americans. I mean if you have a brain you can only laugh at Russian media.

                            Also although the West is no innocent here, dont be naive here people. Russia, China, India and Muslims are as militaristic and expansionist as the USA. Actually perhaps even more because I dont see a real alternative to the current Western system. Do you seriously believe in the world was run by Russia would be any better? I dont think so.

                            Anyway this is not my war. I dont care much about Russia or the West fighting each other or over spheres of influence. The only thing I dislike about Russia its how its bombing Syrian children and its corrupt strongmen oppressing our people in Central Asia. Other than that I dont care about Russia.
                            Last edited by Firdousi; 03-21-2018, 07:16 AM.
                            "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                            I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                            -Ferdowsi.

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