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    My mother used to say if you can't help something then make sure you don't worsen it....in my opinion we live in a critical time...the outcomes of our action now to few years from now will determine our faith for maybe 50 to 100 years....so lets leave useless argument for sake of argument and use this platform to better our situation.

    Another member Marwat suggest Manzoor Pashteen who has become leader of Pashtuns world wide should distance himself from secular and anti-religion section of our society...in my opinion it is great advice...we need to reach him and convey this concern to him. In addition we can use this forum and social media to promote him.
    What else we can do? share you thoughts...
    ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
    نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

    چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
    نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

    سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
    بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

    چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
    يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

    سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
    په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

    ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
    اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

  • #2
    Originally posted by Azmal View Post
    My mother used to say if you can't help something then make sure you don't worsen it....in my opinion we live in a critical time...the outcomes of our action now to few years from now will determine our faith for maybe 50 to 100 years....so lets leave useless argument for sake of argument and use this platform to better our situation.

    Another member Marwat suggest Manzoor Pashteen who has become leader of Pashtuns world wide should distance himself from secular and anti-religion section of our society...in my opinion it is great advice...we need to reach him and convey this concern to him. In addition we can use this forum and social media to promote him.
    What else we can do? share you thoughts...
    Did you vote for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton in last elections?.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Azmal View Post
      Another member Marwat suggest Manzoor Pashteen who has become leader of Pashtuns world wide .
      Say what?.

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      • #4
        Manzoor Ahmad Pashteen | Facebook

        Manzoor Pashteen (@manzoorpashteen) on Twitter

        Those are his social media accounts if you want to contact him. Looks like he knows Pashto writing so you should be able to communicate even without knowing Urdu.

        Originally posted by Azmal View Post
        Another member Marwat suggest Manzoor Pashteen who has become leader of Pashtuns world wide should distance himself from secular and anti-religion section of our society...in my opinion it is great advice...we need to reach him and convey this concern to him.
        He's not the leader of Pashtuns worldwide (not to diminish his efforts which are greatly appreciated by everyone). As for distancing himself from the secular liberal weirdos in ANP, I agree he should, but I'm not sure that'd be such an easy path for him. Who else is going to support his protests? PTI and the like will pay lip service to him, but they're not going to risk their national aspirations to support a group of people who are largely hated by the rest of Pakistan. ANP has no other constituency than Pashtuns, so they can put their full support behind his movement. Even if their intentions are to hijack it for their own gain, it's not like these people have anyone else who'll go to bat for them (well, the TTP is apparently supporting the movement too, but that's not exactly going to help them).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Samandri View Post
          Did you vote for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton in last elections?.
          Does it really matter? Let us concentrate in helping one another, believe it or not i don't hate or even dislike you or anyone....at end you are my Afghan.
          ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
          نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

          چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
          نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

          سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
          بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

          چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
          يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

          سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
          په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

          ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
          اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Samandri View Post
            Say what?.
            Leader not in traditional sense but someone Pashtun can gather around, when my 90+ grandma prays for his success it show how much appealing his idea has. Mind you contrary of what Pakistani media, studies and propaganda portray us, we Afghans are peace loving people....we don't even hate our Pakistani enemy who has been shedding our blood for past 40+ years.
            ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
            نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

            چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
            نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

            سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
            بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

            چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
            يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

            سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
            په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

            ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
            اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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            • #7
              Originally posted by maneatinglizard View Post
              Manzoor Ahmad Pashteen | Facebook

              Manzoor Pashteen (@manzoorpashteen) on Twitter

              Those are his social media accounts if you want to contact him. Looks like he knows Pashto writing so you should be able to communicate even without knowing Urdu.



              He's not the leader of Pashtuns worldwide (not to diminish his efforts which are greatly appreciated by everyone). As for distancing himself from the secular liberal weirdos in ANP, I agree he should, but I'm not sure that'd be such an easy path for him. Who else is going to support his protests? PTI and the like will pay lip service to him, but they're not going to risk their national aspirations to support a group of people who are largely hated by the rest of Pakistan. ANP has no other constituency than Pashtuns, so they can put their full support behind his movement. Even if their intentions are to hijack it for their own gain, it's not like these people have anyone else who'll go to bat for them (well, the TTP is apparently supporting the movement too, but that's not exactly going to help them).
              He has so much appeal for majority of Pashtun for he is young and not associated with any political organization(not that I know of)...he should continue to do so. He preach nonviolence and peace in our war torn land.
              ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
              نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

              چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
              نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

              سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
              بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

              چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
              يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

              سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
              په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

              ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
              اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                Does it really matter? Let us concentrate in helping one another, believe it or not i don't hate or even dislike you or anyone....at end you are my Afghan.
                Yes it matters, you are an American citizen. I am more interested in learning about American stuff from you than reading your juvenile commentary on Pakhtunkhwa affairs.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                  Yes it matters, you are an American citizen. I am more interested in learning about American stuff from you than reading your juvenile commentary on Pakhtunkhwa affairs.
                  it is ok...clam down....Instead of being all defensive and acting like a typical Paki child try to understand that we all are at this together.
                  I don't' know about you but I'm here to learn and make things better even only with my words and even from child of Ali Jennah like you.
                  ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                  نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                  چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                  نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                  سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                  بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                  چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                  يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                  سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                  په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                  ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                  اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                    it is ok...clam down....Instead of being all defensive and acting like a typical Paki child try to understand that we all are at this together.
                    I don't' know about you but I'm here to learn and make things better even only with my words and even from child of Ali Jennah like you.
                    "we"?

                    Seeing you all excited and cooking plans on web (while on American soil) for accomplishment of loy-Afghanistan dream, bring smiles to my face. It seems you are very eager to contribute to the Pashtun Tahafuz movement (which appears as world-wide tsunami in your dreams). Your zhaghida is useless, but your American dollars are not. You can help your leader Manzoor Ahmad Pashteen by donating your dollars to help his cause. When you agree to donate your precious dollars, i will inform him that an American wants to assist your movement with decent amount of money (he is my friend on facebook, so dont worry).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                      "we"?

                      Seeing you all excited and cooking plans on web (while on American soil) for accomplishment of loy-Afghanistan dream, bring smiles to my face. It seems you are very eager to contribute to the Pashtun Tahafuz movement (which appears as world-wide tsunami in your dreams). Your zhaghida is useless, but your American dollars are not. You can help your leader Manzoor Ahmad Pashteen by donating your dollars to help his cause. When you agree to donate your precious dollars, i will inform him that an American wants to assist your movement with decent amount of money (he is my friend on facebook, so dont worry).
                      "We" meant for Lar aw Bar Afghans...the people who are being slather in loy Afghanistan by children of Ali Ponjah... rest assure i never consider you as one of us... you are too Desi-ized and Beghirat to be an Afghan! I swear i don't mean to insult you but i have had fight with Afghans and never in worst case they attack someone Namoos..yet anytime you get cornered with your pro-Paki hot airs... you insults peoples Namoos from safety of your home....that is not Afghan!
                      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                        "we"?

                        Seeing you all excited and cooking plans on web (while on American soil) for accomplishment of loy-Afghanistan dream, bring smiles to my face. It seems you are very eager to contribute to the Pashtun Tahafuz movement (which appears as world-wide tsunami in your dreams). Your zhaghida is useless, but your American dollars are not. You can help your leader Manzoor Ahmad Pashteen by donating your dollars to help his cause. When you agree to donate your precious dollars, i will inform him that an American wants to assist your movement with decent amount of money (he is my friend on facebook, so dont worry).
                        One more thing...rest assure my children and if I'm Afghan children of my children's will work for Loy Afghanistan...it is not about stubbornness but this is about my identity as people!
                        ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                        نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                        چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                        نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                        سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                        بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                        چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                        يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                        سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                        په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                        ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                        اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                          My mother used to say if you can't help something then make sure you don't worsen it....in my opinion we live in a critical time...the outcomes of our action now to few years from now will determine our faith for maybe 50 to 100 years....so lets leave useless argument for sake of argument and use this platform to better our situation.

                          Another member Marwat suggest Manzoor Pashteen who has become leader of Pashtuns world wide should distance himself from secular and anti-religion section of our society...in my opinion it is great advice...we need to reach him and convey this concern to him. In addition we can use this forum and social media to promote him.
                          What else we can do? share you thoughts...
                          Yes such a good idea to lump up all secularist with some people who are anti-relligion. And who are even anti-relligion in that area? Some hard core atheist would do actually more good than harm. Becuase our society is out of balance and is infested with religious extremists.

                          I can say one thing, if you really think you can build a society with mullahs and mosques and shun down secular taughts or any discussion regarding relligion, then just surrender to taliban and bring back their type of shariah.
                          Becuase why even bother with this show of insclusion and standing up for people rights, when on the other hand you want to opress people who have a diffrent political view, becuase they do not fit in your agenda.

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