Pakistanis claim to be Afghans to seek asylum in Norway - Norwegian Ambassador

[Samandri]

At 10:05

[Azmal]

At 10:05

There is tons of Pathan in west under Afghan identity...years ago this guy from Swat came to Afghan association claiming to be Afghan...he and his family got his paperwork...years later saw the guy in gas station with Pakistani flag in his car...i told him you guys always been pakis we Afghans didn't knew...he got scared and said his wife is from Karachi and that is his wife's car. This is just one example of Pathan cashing the blood of Afghans!

[Samandri]

There is tons of Pathan in west under Afghan identity...years ago this guy from Swat came to Afghan association claiming to be Afghan...he and his family got his paperwork...years later saw the guy in gas station with Pakistani flag in his car...i told him you guys always been pakis we Afghans didn't knew...he got scared and said his wife is from Karachi and that is his wife's car. This is just one example of Pathan cashing the blood of Afghans!

There was this Pashtun cricketer from Swabi who lied that he was persecuted by religious extremists for playing and coaching cricket, he got citizenship of Australia. Fawad Ahmed - Wikipedia .

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

There is tons of Pathan in west under Afghan identity...years ago this guy from Swat came to Afghan association claiming to be Afghan...he and his family got his paperwork...years later saw the guy in gas station with Pakistani flag in his car...i told him you guys always been pakis we Afghans didn't knew...he got scared and said his wife is from Karachi and that is his wife's car. This is just one example of Pathan cashing the blood of Afghans!

You're always in the right place at the right time Azmal lol

[Elias]

That happens quiet often.
Punjabis/Sindhis pretending to be Afghan was also common back in the days and it was easier without any risk getting spotted. Nowadays they get busted because the Afghan consulates put on restriction on issuing birth certificates and passports and they work with the immigration centers determining their real nationality.

But there are also afghans who married during their stay Pakistani women and they took her with them to Europe, US or Canada which is understandable.

Back to Indic Pakistanis falsely claiming to be Afghan and living in Europe. It is like killing two birds with one stone for them.

[khushal]

I know many pakis that came here to the US claiming they were refugees from Afghanistan.

[Azmal]

You're always in the right place at the right time Azmal lol

Mohmood I hope you don't get paranoid again when a black/while/gray/blue car that is watching your ever move. lol

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Mohmood I hope you don't get paranoid again when a black/while/gray/blue car that is watching your ever move. lol

That's not where I was going with that lol ......just, it's strange that you coincidentally have all these random anecdotes from your day to day experiences ....lol ...sounds a bit cooked up you know?

[Samandri]

The Norwegian ambassador in the video is saying that most of the Pakistanis coming to Norway are from Gujarat and surrounding areas of Punjab. Pashtuns of Pakistan can acquire Refugee status in western countries without need of posing themselves as Afghan citizens. For example the cricketer from Swabi, as i mentioned above, acquired refugee status in Australia (and subsequently citizenship) by claiming that his life was in danger due to presence of Taliban in his area. West knows about Malala, and for them KP is as much of a war-zone as Afghanistan.

[Samandri]

The Muslims going to West these days to acquire asylum there, are desperate lowly men, whether they are Pakistanis, Afghans, Iranis, Iraqis or Africans. They will even convert to Christianity or will pretend to be gays to acquire asylum there . They have left their watan for pure greed and such men are not expected to be morally sound. They are faeces from third world countries.

[Friends of Baloch]

The Norwegian ambassador in the video is saying that most of the Pakistanis coming to Norway are from Gujarat and surrounding areas of Punjab.

Correct. While the "Rawalpindi wala" posts lies on the internet all day and every day about how 'indispensable' and 'strategic' their Pakiland is, the simple truth is that Pakiland is an uttlerly corrupted 3rd world sh!t hole full of 10s of millions of illiterate and uneducated dingbats where thousands of Dravidians try to flee Bundjab every month with deluded dreams of life abroad even though there is no war or any other justifiable cause for them to seek "asylum" outside of their Pakiland. They are ones who in fact are inflicting war on Afghans and Baloch, yet these Bundjabis are the ones trying to flee their Pakiland?

But yet these deluded two-faced "Rawalpindi wala" want to believe that this sh!t hole Pakiland is actually just one notch under South Korea and Japan.

Just 70 years old invented country and already millions of stinking pakis have called it quits on Pakiland and even millions more want to get out of there too, lol.

Trav(ail)ogue of illegal Pakistani immigrants
Waseem Ashraf Butt | Updated November 30, 2015
https://www.dawn.com/news/1223260

GUJRAT: The deportation of a number of illegal Pakistani immigrants and ‘stringent’ measures to prevent further flow of human flood through the sea coast bordering Turkey and Greece have brought many tales to the fore.

As most ‘emigrants’ belong to Gujrat and surrounding areas, this correspondent got an opportunity to talk to a few of those who have recently been sent back home.

Deported from Turkey in recent weeks, a lad revealed that a good number of human traffickers were mainly operating from Istanbul city of Turkey, with their “sub-agents” who would only book the clients and collect the settled amount (around Rs300,000 from each person) in Gujrat, Phalia, Mandi Bahauddin and Gujranwala.

The practice of illegally crossing the borders of Iran, Turkey and then Greece to enter Europe has been going on for decades in Gujranwala region and the authorities in Pakistan have failed to curb it. It witnessed a sharp increase during the last four to six months after Germany and other European countries had announced asylum for the Syrian, Iraqi and Afghani refugees and, according to an estimate, at least 35,000 Pakistani nationals have so far crossed into Europe in the disguise of Syrian refugees.

He said even the refugees from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan were being operated by the human traffickers belonging to Gujranwala region and “the so-called crackdown on human traffickers has not curtailed the business.”

“I had been offered a free ride up to Europe by the agent who had earlier booked my case for Greece, if I could arrange at least three more clients,” he said and added that his father had handed over the settled amount to a police official in Mandi Bahauddin district who used to book the clients on behalf of his brother, a human trafficker settled in Turkey and Spain.

After the western countries’ focus towards the immigrants had been shifted to civil war-torn countries like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan nationals due to a sharp influx of refugees from these countries, he said, the restrictions at Turkey-Greece border had compelled the Pakistani nationals travelling towards Europe to change their national identity.

Sharing his story, Shan Ahmed, who belongs to Gujrat city and had been deported from Turkey around two weeks ago, said he and around 100 other illegal Pakistanis mainly belonging to Gujrat, Mandi Bahauddin, Sialkot and Gujranwala had introduced themselves as the nationals of Myanmar and Kashmir when they were caught by the authorities in the waters of Greece after crossing the limits of Turkish side of the ocean.

“One of the detained men who belonged to Sialkot district had revealed to the Turkish authorities that all of them belonged to Pakistan since he knew the Turkish language very well for being settled as a factory worker near Istanbul for more than two years. Had he not revealed the nationality of the group of detained people, the authorities would have set us free after brief interrogation, thus, giving another chance to those who wanted to try their luck once more through crossing the border,” said Ahmed.

He said they were all deported by the authorities after being kept in confinement for around a month at a camp, where the authorities told them that Pakistan was not among the war-zone countries and did have a better economic condition compared to Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, that’s why Pakistanis were being deported.

Asked why the immigrants from the countries like India and Iran, which also have better economic conditions and are not among the troubled zones, are not being deported, he said the Turkish authorities responded that “Pakistanis come in large numbers and groups, whereas the people from the other Southeast Asian countries come in small groups.”

Since the Greece economy has deteriorated in recent years, there has been a decline in the rates for clients as previously the traffickers used to charge around Rs600,000, which is now half of it. This means opportunities for the locals to try their luck with a ‘minimum investment’ and chances of crossing into Europe and then settle with the help of their close kin who are already settled in various European countries.

Most Pakistanis, who had recently crossed into Greece and Germany, got settled in Italy and Spain with the assistance of their kin settled there.

The Pakistani slaves of modern Greece
Rafia Zakaria | Updated July 25, 2014
https://www.dawn.com/news/1121527

In Ancient Greece, the region known as Laconia, or Lacedaemonia, belonged to the kingdom of Sparta. As the annals of historical chronicles reveal, the Kingdom of Sparta fought the Kingdom of Athens in the Peloponnesian War. Sparta won that war, and Athens, previously the strongest city state in the ancient world, was reduced to a devastated shadow of its former self.

According to some historians, the “helots” who dwelled in Laconia and nearby Messenia, were permanently enslaved by the ruling Spartans, forced to perform agricultural labour and other tasks.

According to Plutarch, they were ritually humiliated and mistreated and even slaughtered in the autumn, when the harvest was over. If a Spartan killed one of them, he would not receive any punishment.

Other historians such as Aristophanes of Byzantium alleges that the helots occupied a “middle status” between slaves and servants. They were tied to the agricultural land and served and supported the Spartans.

The same conundrum could be said to describe the condition of those that toil the agricultural lands of what was formerly Sparta and is now Greece.

These new slaves of former Sparta are no longer the helots but Pakistanis and Bangladeshis.

Like their forbears, the almost slaves of ancient times, they too toil the agricultural fields, picking oranges which are squeezed to produce organic orange juice for wealthy Europeans. The similarities do not end there.

Like the helots of Ancient Sparta, the Pakistani and Bangladeshi workers in the region are forbidden from engaging in activities that the other inhabitants of the region can do freely. They are forbidden from going to the beach, they may not rent houses, and they cannot receive service at restaurants.

The almost-slaves of the modern Peloponnese are thus forced to live in warehouses or chicken coops with a lucky few able to house themselves in derelict buildings. For the privilege of these habitations, they must pay 50 euros.

Like the autumnal slave massacres of ancient Sparta documented by Plutarch, the modern almost slaves of Laconia regularly face assaults. Last year, a group of 33 Bangladeshi farm workers were shot by their farm supervisors because they gathered to protest the working conditions at the camp.

According to the workers interviewed by Amnesty International, the supervisors threatened the workers that they would kill them and the shooting went on for nearly 20 minutes. The workers in that strawberry farm were found to have been living in sheds made of plastic sheeting, with no access to clean water and no bathrooms.

The slaves of ancient Greece had likely fared better.

In another incident, a Pakistani migrant worker, Mohammad Asif reported that he had been assaulted by the Mayor of Evrotas Ioannis Grypiotis and then sent to a detention camp for 18 months. When he returned, the Mayor saw him again and threatened to hit him once more.

Another Pakistani worker, Nadim Asif, said that he was assaulted by the police because he could not immediately produce his papers. The officer broke his hand.

A Pakistani worker named Ibrar Hussein was also punched and kicked by the police. When another, Rizwan Ahmed, accused a police officer of assault, he was taken the police station and beaten up and told that he had no right to be anywhere in Greece except the farm that he worked on.

Police in the region are said to carry out regular raids of the migrants’ houses, kicking and hitting them with trunches for no reason at all.

The rise of various racist and neo-Nazi groups in the region has only exacerbated the problem and provided a justification for what is in effect the new slave class of the region. The racial and religious differences that the migrant workers have from the local population allow all sorts of racist and bigoted stereotypes to be attached to them.

On their side, the workers fleeing prospects of employment in Pakistan itself continue to make their way to any place else, even a Greece where they will become almost slaves. In this way, global inequality and local bigotry combine to revive the ancient and exploitative custom of slavery.

Now known as migrant workers, the Pakistani slaves of Modern Greece are tied to the land, divested of their dignity and reduced to something less than human. Living in sheds and under tarps, picking the good fruit for others and fed the rotting fruit that no one else will eat, they like millions of others, are part of the new global underclass.

The semantic tricks and loopholes of the developed world no longer label them slaves, but they continue to live like them and die like them, providing a testament that the modern world is not a moral world, its innovation, the slapping of new labels on old evils.

[Akbar]

the ones under fake Afghan ID in europe are patans.