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    After the barbaric attack today that killed 100 innocent civilians, I have been thinking about how we can bring peace to Afghanistan. This seems to be an herculean task but I have been thinking how we could proceed in order to finish this bloodbath.

    In order to bring peace first we need to know what we want to achieve. Some Afghans are calling for partition and even genocide on several social networks, but this is something irrational and even inadvisable for it will create further bloodshed. I believe we should focus mainly on making Afghanistan a good place to live for all Afghans. In other words, coexistence.

    In my opinion some measures and steps must be taken to finish the war:

    1) First off we must acknowledge that we can not defeat the Taliban. Their movement is deeply rooted in the Pashtun rural society. Taliban are not Punjabis nor Pakistanis as the Afghan official propaganda claims but rather fellow Afghans. They won't go anywhere soon.

    2) Although urban Afghans despise Pakistan we need to comprise. We need to reach an agreement with them. Pakistan has some legit concerns when it comes to Afghanistan. Pakistan fears to be sandwiched between India and Afghanistan. So we need to take steps in order to appease this country.

    3) Our country is being used as a battlefield for the Desi civil war. Its a proxy war between Pakis and Indians and they are using Afghans life to advance their agenda. This must stop. In order to do this, we need to ask India to leave the country. Pakistan won't stop its support to the Taliban as long as India is involved in Afghanistan. We need to reassure Pakistan that India won't we allowed to use our soil against her. I have come to despise India. This country is too hypocrite and deceitful and they are very happy to see Muslims butchering each other.

    4) Afghanistan must address the TTP and BLA issues. We should offer Pakistan their leadership if they accept to deport the Talib leaders to us. Trade both.

    5) Pave a road from Peshawar to the Central Asian countries for Pakistan. Pakistan needs to trade with those countries so we should let them do so. In return Pakistan should pave a road to be used exclusively by Afghans in Gwadar.

    6) Recognize the Durrand Line, which is already an international border anyway.

    7) Fence the border. A better border management would help a lot.

    8) Engage in peace talks with the Taliban with no pre-conditions. It must be taken seriously. War has become bread and butter for many people in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    9) Total war against he radical elements within the Taliban. By total war I mean that we should be merciless. No prisoners. Just like the Paki army did with the TTP in Zarb-e Azam.

    10) Reform the government. The current system is a joke, it doesn't work. It needs serious reforms. I am not a huge fan of current nation-states, but in order to get rid of them first we need to create and environment where its mere existence becomes meaningless.

    11) Regional cooperation. Afghanistan is doing a good job by getting involved in regional projects such as TAPI, the Lapis Lazuli corridor, Chabahar port or CASA-1000. Working together will bring people together, with better economy war becomes meaningless.

    12) Education. Million of children are right now studying in Afghanistan. They are our best asset for a brighter future. We need to to do our best to make those children able to change the country. Current generations are a failure and its not their fault but we need to focus on the future.

    13) Afghans need to change their mentality. Stop with this stupid ethnic hatred, wasting their time with endless arguments about Massoud, Najeeb or Daoud Khan. They are all dead. Move on. And also Afghans need a better nihat. Afghans need to stop blaming other people for all their miseries. Need to grow some balls and try to behave like rational adults.

    Many other steps must be taken but I believe if we manage to at least achieve some of these it would be a huge victory and would help to make the country a but more stable.
    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

    -Ferdowsi.

  • #2
    the only winners are pako, everyone lost it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
      After the barbaric attack today that killed 100 innocent civilians, I have been thinking about how we can bring peace to Afghanistan. This seems to be an herculean task but I have been thinking how we could proceed in order to finish this bloodbath.

      In order to bring peace first we need to know what we want to achieve. Some Afghans are calling for partition and even genocide on several social networks, but this is something irrational and even inadvisable for it will create further bloodshed. I believe we should focus mainly on making Afghanistan a good place to live for all Afghans. In other words, coexistence.

      In my opinion some measures and steps must be taken to finish the war:

      1) First off we must acknowledge that we can not defeat the Taliban. Their movement is deeply rooted in the Pashtun rural society. Taliban are not Punjabis nor Pakistanis as the Afghan official propaganda claims but rather fellow Afghans. They won't go anywhere soon.

      2) Although urban Afghans despise Pakistan we need to comprise. We need to reach an agreement with them. Pakistan has some legit concerns when it comes to Afghanistan. Pakistan fears to be sandwiched between India and Afghanistan. So we need to take steps in order to appease this country.

      3) Our country is being used as a battlefield for the Desi civil war. Its a proxy war between Pakis and Indians and they are using Afghans life to advance their agenda. This must stop. In order to do this, we need to ask India to leave the country. Pakistan won't stop its support to the Taliban as long as India is involved in Afghanistan. We need to reassure Pakistan that India won't we allowed to use our soil against her. I have come to despise India. This country is too hypocrite and deceitful and they are very happy to see Muslims butchering each other.

      4) Afghanistan must address the TTP and BLA issues. We should offer Pakistan their leadership if they accept to deport the Talib leaders to us. Trade both.

      5) Pave a road from Peshawar to the Central Asian countries for Pakistan. Pakistan needs to trade with those countries so we should let them do so. In return Pakistan should pave a road to be used exclusively by Afghans in Gwadar.

      6) Recognize the Durrand Line, which is already an international border anyway.

      7) Fence the border. A better border management would help a lot.

      8) Engage in peace talks with the Taliban with no pre-conditions. It must be taken seriously. War has become bread and butter for many people in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

      9) Total war against he radical elements within the Taliban. By total war I mean that we should be merciless. No prisoners. Just like the Paki army did with the TTP in Zarb-e Azam.

      10) Reform the government. The current system is a joke, it doesn't work. It needs serious reforms. I am not a huge fan of current nation-states, but in order to get rid of them first we need to create and environment where its mere existence becomes meaningless.

      11) Regional cooperation. Afghanistan is doing a good job by getting involved in regional projects such as TAPI, the Lapis Lazuli corridor, Chabahar port or CASA-1000. Working together will bring people together, with better economy war becomes meaningless.

      12) Education. Million of children are right now studying in Afghanistan. They are our best asset for a brighter future. We need to to do our best to make those children able to change the country. Current generations are a failure and its not their fault but we need to focus on the future.

      13) Afghans need to change their mentality. Stop with this stupid ethnic hatred, wasting their time with endless arguments about Massoud, Najeeb or Daoud Khan. They are all dead. Move on. And also Afghans need a better nihat. Afghans need to stop blaming other people for all their miseries. Need to grow some balls and try to behave like rational adults.

      Many other steps must be taken but I believe if we manage to at least achieve some of these it would be a huge victory and would help to make the country a but more stable.
      Totally agree with you ..There is enough of blood and ethnic hatred we need to sit down and resolved peacefully ..Be it US or India or any other country they won't be interested in Peace as such there countries are not bleeding in this useless war.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Peacelove View Post
        Totally agree with you ..There is enough of blood and ethnic hatred we need to sit down and resolved peacefully ..Be it US or India or any other country they won't be interested in Peace as such there countries are not bleeding in this useless war.
        Don't get me wrong. Pakistan is a prostitute state no different than the Afghan prostitute state. Both are disgusting entities, utter failures unable to provide basic security, dignity and social services to their people. The death of those martyred yesterday lies on the hands of Paki nationalists, may their families perish.

        When I say we should make peace with your prostitute country its because I am sick and tired of this madness. Innocent Pak and Afg civilians are dying. This must stop. Don't try to use my good will against India or USA. Both those countries despite their flaws are way better than Pakistan.
        "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
        I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

        -Ferdowsi.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by marwat View Post
          the only winners are pako, everyone lost it.
          I still remember when Afghanistan was under Taliban control. Back then Pakistan was indeed a good country. Much better, cleaner and advance place than other neighboring countries like India.

          Pakistan is not the winner. Its actually one of the main losers of this war. USA forced Pak to join his War on Terror although that country shared common goals with the Tal/AQ. 70K Pak have been killed since then, their country has become a failed state, their sovereignty is indeed gone, the little prestige they had is gone, their intelligence services and army are broken and a joke.

          Nobody is winning here. Its a lose-lose. By making peace we all become winners.
          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

          -Ferdowsi.

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          • #6
            Better Solution.

            1. Merge Iran with the Persian speaking parts of Afghanistan.
            2. Merge the Pashtun speaking parts of AFG with Pakistan.
            3. Merge Turkic parts of AFG to the former USSR central asian nations.

            and make every Pashtun to cook good biryani, eat lot's of daal and speak good urdu.
            Then the Taliban will be no more.
            I am gone...


            farewell

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            • #7
              plus the majority of those 70 K dead Pakstanis were Pashtuns..... think about it.... it's Pakistan siding on the blood of their Pashtun citizens.

              Why trying to shutdown Pashtuns ! WHY !!!
              I am gone...


              farewell

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              • #8
                The Media lies by Omission. Afghan and Pakistani citizens should stop listening to Television, news papers and ofcourse, stupid websites like Afghan or PakDEfence.

                Go there and figure out the truth with you're OWN observations, with you're OWN conclusions and not relying on what the media told you.

                Be surprised folks.Chances are, Bacha Khan was loyal but i have a feeling that the SYSTEM intentionnally made him into a lame do-nothing politician.

                Mahmood Achakzai himself might be two faced, being a Pakistani hating Ethnofacist on the outside while in the inside, he deeply loves Pakistan.

                This violence is a problem with Pashtuns. Could it be more likely the Taliban soldiers are just pashtun men that are sexually frustated ? Sexually frustated because of the lack of females we have due to them dying because of the badal (revenge culture).

                Do you think a man becomes a Gul Khan because to him, that would increase his chances for survival and also finding his significant other ? Because Pakistan made it easier for them ?

                You have to understand that the media tells the truth but not the "whole" truth. Someone is there pulling behind the strings. We know Politicians are corrupt. Sure, don't blame Punjabis for our problems. Blame it on the illuminati or freemasons.

                Why should Dari speaking Afghan Pashtuns hate Pakistan when it's a fight that doesn't have to relate to them since the durand line is only a problem for Afghan Pashtuns. Sure, there is a little reason for saying Pakistan was behind the Taliban.

                We Pashtun nationalists seem to hate Punjabis more than we hate white people, when it was a "white" man who drew the durrand line, and white russians, brits and americans that mass invaded afghanistan.

                The Gul Khans are a little bit smart in the diaspora for disliking whites since whites have hated us, but Pashtun nationalists seem to hate Punjabis more than they hate white people.
                I am gone...


                farewell

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RightWingPakhtun View Post
                  The Media lies by Omission. Afghan and Pakistani citizens should stop listening to Television, news papers and ofcourse, stupid websites like Afghan or PakDEfence.

                  Go there and figure out the truth with you're OWN observations, with you're OWN conclusions and not relying on what the media told you.

                  Be surprised folks.Chances are, Bacha Khan was loyal but i have a feeling that the SYSTEM intentionnally made him into a lame do-nothing politician.

                  Mahmood Achakzai himself might be two faced, being a Pakistani hating Ethnofacist on the outside while in the inside, he deeply loves Pakistan.

                  This violence is a problem with Pashtuns. Could it be more likely the Taliban soldiers are just pashtun men that are sexually frustated ? Sexually frustated because of the lack of females we have due to them dying because of the badal (revenge culture).

                  Do you think a man becomes a Gul Khan because to him, that would increase his chances for survival and also finding his significant other ? Because Pakistan made it easier for them ?

                  You have to understand that the media tells the truth but not the "whole" truth. Someone is there pulling behind the strings. We know Politicians are corrupt. Sure, don't blame Punjabis for our problems. Blame it on the illuminati or freemasons.

                  Why should Dari speaking Afghan Pashtuns hate Pakistan when it's a fight that doesn't have to relate to them since the durand line is only a problem for Afghan Pashtuns. Sure, there is a little reason for saying Pakistan was behind the Taliban.

                  We Pashtun nationalists seem to hate Punjabis more than we hate white people, when it was a "white" man who drew the durrand line, and white russians, brits and americans that mass invaded afghanistan.

                  The Gul Khans are a little bit smart in the diaspora for disliking whites since whites have hated us, but Pashtun nationalists seem to hate Punjabis more than they hate white people.
                  you are not making any sense. why waste your time.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RightWingPakhtun View Post
                    Better Solution.

                    1. Merge Iran with the Persian speaking parts of Afghanistan.
                    2. Merge the Pashtun speaking parts of AFG with Pakistan.
                    3. Merge Turkic parts of AFG to the former USSR central asian nations.

                    and make every Pashtun to cook good biryani, eat lot's of daal and speak good urdu.
                    Then the Taliban will be no more.
                    Go f*ck yourself!!
                    GTFO!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by salman47 View Post
                      Go f*ck yourself!!
                      GTFO!!
                      Firdousi guy is not fond of pro-Pashtunistan pashtuns.

                      Not a gul khan, but He's a Gul Shah, Shah Gul or Gul Jan .

                      and a very pretty and gorgeous gul shah , aint he.
                      I am gone...


                      farewell

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                        After the barbaric attack today that killed 100 innocent civilians, I have been thinking about how we can bring peace to Afghanistan. This seems to be an herculean task but I have been thinking how we could proceed in order to finish this bloodbath.

                        In order to bring peace first we need to know what we want to achieve. Some Afghans are calling for partition and even genocide on several social networks, but this is something irrational and even inadvisable for it will create further bloodshed. I believe we should focus mainly on making Afghanistan a good place to live for all Afghans. In other words, coexistence.

                        In my opinion some measures and steps must be taken to finish the war:

                        1) First off we must acknowledge that we can not defeat the Taliban. Their movement is deeply rooted in the Pashtun rural society. Taliban are not Punjabis nor Pakistanis as the Afghan official propaganda claims but rather fellow Afghans. They won't go anywhere soon.

                        2) Although urban Afghans despise Pakistan we need to comprise. We need to reach an agreement with them. Pakistan has some legit concerns when it comes to Afghanistan. Pakistan fears to be sandwiched between India and Afghanistan. So we need to take steps in order to appease this country.

                        3) Our country is being used as a battlefield for the Desi civil war. Its a proxy war between Pakis and Indians and they are using Afghans life to advance their agenda. This must stop. In order to do this, we need to ask India to leave the country. Pakistan won't stop its support to the Taliban as long as India is involved in Afghanistan. We need to reassure Pakistan that India won't we allowed to use our soil against her. I have come to despise India. This country is too hypocrite and deceitful and they are very happy to see Muslims butchering each other.

                        4) Afghanistan must address the TTP and BLA issues. We should offer Pakistan their leadership if they accept to deport the Talib leaders to us. Trade both.

                        5) Pave a road from Peshawar to the Central Asian countries for Pakistan. Pakistan needs to trade with those countries so we should let them do so. In return Pakistan should pave a road to be used exclusively by Afghans in Gwadar.

                        6) Recognize the Durrand Line, which is already an international border anyway.

                        7) Fence the border. A better border management would help a lot.

                        8) Engage in peace talks with the Taliban with no pre-conditions. It must be taken seriously. War has become bread and butter for many people in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

                        9) Total war against he radical elements within the Taliban. By total war I mean that we should be merciless. No prisoners. Just like the Paki army did with the TTP in Zarb-e Azam.

                        10) Reform the government. The current system is a joke, it doesn't work. It needs serious reforms. I am not a huge fan of current nation-states, but in order to get rid of them first we need to create and environment where its mere existence becomes meaningless.

                        11) Regional cooperation. Afghanistan is doing a good job by getting involved in regional projects such as TAPI, the Lapis Lazuli corridor, Chabahar port or CASA-1000. Working together will bring people together, with better economy war becomes meaningless.

                        12) Education. Million of children are right now studying in Afghanistan. They are our best asset for a brighter future. We need to to do our best to make those children able to change the country. Current generations are a failure and its not their fault but we need to focus on the future.

                        13) Afghans need to change their mentality. Stop with this stupid ethnic hatred, wasting their time with endless arguments about Massoud, Najeeb or Daoud Khan. They are all dead. Move on. And also Afghans need a better nihat. Afghans need to stop blaming other people for all their miseries. Need to grow some balls and try to behave like rational adults.

                        Many other steps must be taken but I believe if we manage to at least achieve some of these it would be a huge victory and would help to make the country a but more stable.
                        All that can be accomplished if the virus(foreign forces) leave. The clergy are like white blood cells, they will be active as long as the virus exists in the body.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by RightWingPakhtun View Post
                          Firdousi guy is not fond of pro-Pashtunistan pashtuns.

                          Not a gul khan, but He's a Gul Shah, Shah Gul or Gul Jan .

                          and a very pretty and gorgeous gul shah , aint he.
                          I don't know what all those terms mean but there is no interest for Afghanistan to be pro-proindicpashtunistan. Afghans that think that way were/are brainwashed by soviet era narrative to use Afghanistan against Pakistan. The US is using the same narrative. Neighbors in conflict is a tool used by hegemonic powers to keep influence.
                          Last edited by khushal; 01-28-2018, 07:55 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by khushal View Post
                            All that can be accomplished if the virus(foreign forces) leave. The clergy are like white blood cells, they will be active as long as the virus exists in the body.
                            Of course. Thats a given, dude. One of the main reasons why Iran and Russia won't stop their support its because they want the USA to bleed in Afghanistan. This is actually a smart and obvious strategy. Once the USA is gone those countries will stop or at least decrease their support. Of course Pakistan won't because the reason why this country supports Taliban is different. Afghans need to grow some balls and ask India to stop interfering.
                            "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                            I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                            -Ferdowsi.

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