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    Trump’s warning to Pakistan could push it closer to Iran, China, Russia, analysts say | Toronto Star


    Trump’s warning to Pakistan could push it closer to Iran, China, Russia, analysts say

    The U.S. president singled out Pakistan in a speech, calling on the nation to put an "immediate" end to harbouring militants operating in Afghanistan. But some analysts say Trump’s statement could backfire.



    By Kathy GannonThe Associated Press
    Tues., Aug. 22, 2017







    ISLAMABAD—U.S. President Donald Trump’s warning to Pakistan to put an “immediate” end to harbouring militants operating in Afghanistan didn’t spell out the consequences of defiance or suggest a new strategy to get it to yield to long-standing U.S. demands, analysts said Tuesday.
    They also said that isolating Pakistan could unsettle the U.S. relationship with Islamabad and push it closer to Russia, China and Iran, further complicating efforts to stabilize the region.
    “The idea of U.S. leverage in Pakistan is deeply exaggerated,” Michael Kugelman, deputy director of the U.S.-based Wilson Center’s Asia Program, said in an email to The Associated Press a day after Trump’s speech. “No matter the punishment, policy, or inducement, there’s little reason to believe that Pakistan will change its ways.
    “Pakistan has an unshakable strategic interest in maintaining ties to militant groups like the Taliban because they help keep Pakistan’s Indian enemy at bay in Afghanistan,” he added.
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    U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Tuesday the U.S. could consider sanctions on Pakistan or cut off its status as a major non-NATO ally if Islamabad does not crack down on the Taliban and other extremist groups. He didn’t say what sanctions might be considered.
    In outlining his plan for the 16-year war in Afghanistan, Trump on Monday night warned of the threat to U.S. security from militant groups operating there and in neighbouring Pakistan.
    “Today, 20 U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organizations are active in Afghanistan and Pakistan — the highest concentration in any region anywhere in the world,” he said. “For its part, Pakistan often gives safe haven to agents of chaos, violence and terror.”

    The threat is compounded by the fact that both India and Pakistan are nuclear powers, he said, and their hostile relationship could spiral out of control.
    “And that could happen,” Trump said.
    Some in Pakistan were baffled by his later statement demanding that India get more involved in Afghanistan, a scenario dreaded by Islamabad and the reason cited most often for Pakistan’s support of the Taliban as a bulwark against India’s influence in Afghanistan.
    “Upgrading the Indian role in Afghanistan basically means perpetuating the hostilities,” said Imtiaz Gul, executive director of the Islamabad-based Center for Research and Security Studies.
    Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry issued a statement late Tuesday saying it is committed to fighting terrorism, and it called allegations it provided safe havens to militants “a false narrative.” It added that a military solution is not possible, saying “only an Afghan-led, Afghan-owned politically negotiated solution can lead to a sustainable peace in Afghanistan.”
    Pakistani Interior Minister Ahsan Iqbal told reporters that his country “has rendered unmatched sacrifices in the war on terror. Our war against terrorism is not because of the United States; we will continue this war.”
    U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan David Hale met Tuesday with Foreign Minister Khawaja Muhammad Asif, according to a government statement, which also announced a meeting with Tillerson “in the next few days” in Washington. The U.S. policy toward Afghanistan and South Asia will feature prominently in their meeting, it said.
    While Trump’s speech was widely criticized in Pakistan by politicians of all parties, it was welcomed by Afghanistan’s shared leadership of President Ashraf Ghani and Chief Executive Abdullah Abdullah.
    Abdullah told a news conference the U.S. strategy marks a unique opportunity to ultimately achieve peaceful objectives in the region.
    “The regional aspect of this strategy is very clear. It shows that the problem was very well identified,” he said, referring to Trump’s singling out of Pakistan.
    But security analyst Amir Rana, director of the Pakistan Institute of Peace Studies, warned that isolating Pakistan as the sole culprit could stymie efforts to stabilize the region or bring the Taliban to the negotiating table. It also could increase the influence of Russia, China and even Iran, he said.
    “All regional actors have to decide how to collaborate in Afghanistan,” Rana said. “You can’t single out one nation. There is not only one nation destabilizing Afghanistan.”
    The U.S. and Afghanistan have routinely accused Pakistan — and particularly its powerful intelligence agency, the ISI — of harbouring insurgents and of waging a selective war. They say Pakistan attacks those insurgents it considers its enemy and allows those it has been known to use as proxies, either against India or Afghanistan, to flourish.
    Not all Afghans welcomed Trump’s speech, with some angry that he wasn’t interested in nation-building, only in “killing terrorists.”
    Aziz Rahman, who works at a bank in Kabul, said Trump’s speech will make little difference to ordinary Afghans. After 16 years of conflict and tens of thousands of U.S. and NATO troops in his homeland, Rahman said the situation has only deteriorated, with thousands of people fleeing.
    “Trump’s speech is good for Americans, not for the poor people of Afghanistan,” Rahman said.

    Waheed Muzhda, a political analyst in Kabul, expressed fear that Trump’s emphasis on a military victory seemed guaranteed to prolong the war and increase casualties.
    “In the future, we will witness a worsening of the war, more killing and more problems for the Afghan nation,” Muzhda said. “Mr. Trump only emphasized winning the war militarily, but if a military solution to the war could have been possible, this should have been achieved with presence of 150,000 troops.”
    In a statement emailed to the media, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said Trump’s strategy to remain in Afghanistan will mean more deaths of U.S. troops. The insurgents are willing to fight until all NATO and U.S. troops have left, he said.
    The Wilson Center’s Kugelman said he didn’t believe the Taliban “will exactly be shaking in their boots after this speech.”
    “They know that they survived, with flying colours, a U.S. troop surge that at its height exceeded 100,000 troops,” he said. “So for them, the idea of a modest troop increase, coupled with tough talk about the U.S. winning, won’t really faze them at all.”
    Tillerson, meanwhile, said the U.S. would not indefinitely conceal how many troops it will be sending to Afghanistan. Gen. Joseph Votel, the top U.S commander for the Middle East, said the first deployments of new U.S. forces will arrive in Afghanistan “pretty quickly.”
    Votel estimated the deployment could take days or a few weeks
    Last edited by Insight; 08-28-2017, 01:59 AM.
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    Some in Pakistan were baffled by his later statement demanding that India get more involved in Afghanistan, a scenario dreaded by Islamabad and the reason cited most often for Pakistan’s support of the Taliban as a bulwark against India’s influence in Afghanistan.
    “Upgrading the Indian role in Afghanistan basically means perpetuating the hostilities,” said Imtiaz Gul, executive director of the Islamabad-based Center for Research and Security Studies.
    "The past is not my concern. The future is no longer my concern either. One minute. One minute of everything at once. And anything before is nothing. Everything after nothing. Nothing in comparison to that one minute."

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    • #3
      He is a Business man. He does not understand international relations and it seems like neither does his speech writer. He is good at telling others to pay more of the bill because they are making money trading with the US.

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      • #4
        Iranians and Russians are too smart to associate with a dirty two-faced degenerate like Pakiland.

        What a sh!t country.

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        • #5
          America without Pakistan cannot survive in this region.

          Both are brothers in crime
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Friends of Baloch View Post
            Iranians and Russians are too smart to associate with a dirty two-faced degenerate like Pakiland.

            What a sh!t country.

            Its not that they don't want to, the reality is that they can't. During the last US/Paki spat, The paki generals started brown nosing with China and China told the Paki generals to kiss and make up with the US because they(China) dont have the financial resources to support them. Russia is much weaker than China.
            Last edited by khushal; 09-01-2017, 03:55 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Afghanfootball
              Wtf are you talking about Iran and Russia obviously support China aswell.

              Its obvious going to be:

              Afghanistan, USA, India
              vs
              Porkistan, Iran, China, Russia

              going forward
              What's "going to be" Pakiland, China, Iran and Russia?

              Pakiland cannot align itself with Iran while it is a beneficiary of Saudi Arabian aid.

              Saudi Arabia and Iran do not have mutal interests in Afghanistan. Pakiland will always have to defer to Saudis to check Iran's relations with Afghanistan.

              India's interests in Afghanistan overlap with Iran's, and also Russia's. India and Russia do not want Saudi backed Pakiland to dominate in Afghanistan.

              Both Russia and Iran have almost no interest in Pakiland itself. Iran's trade with Pakiland is practically nothing. There is only one official border crossing between the two countries, which is often closed from the Iranian side.

              Neither Russia or Iran trusts China and both of them fear Chinese domination of their economies. These three countries have a strategic calculation to their relationships based on a common threat perception from the US and also economic opportunism in the case of China's relations with Iran and economic anemia in the case of Russia's need for China. That's about it. In other areas they are competitors, particularly in Central Asia.

              There is no 'block' vs 'block' like you think. This isnt the cold war era and Afghanistan is not at the center of anything other than Rawalpindi's fantasy of a 5th province and Indo-Paki sibling rivalry.

              Russia and Iran do not invest even a fraction of their effort and attention to Afghanistan that they have on Syria, and for the Iranians, what they commit to Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen and Bahrain too.
              Last edited by Friends of Baloch; 09-01-2017, 07:32 PM.
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              • #8
                Nobody likes pakistan, Iran and Russia are not dumb, they will never fully support the terrorist country. Also China is only using Pakistan like ***** for its own benefit. They can piss on Pakistan and Pakis will open their mouths for them

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Da Bannu Mazdigar View Post
                  America without Pakistan cannot survive in this region.

                  Both are brothers in crime
                  America can pull down your shalwar anytime you stupid *****, remember you open your legs for everybody

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