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  • #61
    Originally posted by Zarawar View Post
    I told you what I thought and who I condemned....Also, RAW and ISI are both the same , both are against Afghan interests. The only difference is that ISI has so far inflicted more damage to Afghanistan than the RAW, but i'm pretty sure RAW has the same intentions, because both follow the system that was left to them from their fore fathers (Hindus and British-Rajas). British empire was defeated in Afghanistan, their policies were always anti-Afghan and anti-Mujahideen.
    lolzz dyuu soch kaee che mung RAW tha dasae yaw ghatt muqaam war karrae dae lolzz. Mungtha hindustan ao da pakistan yaw khabaraa daa. Ka dwarnaa Pashtunkhwa/Afghanistan ka da khpl mufaadho la paara thabahii ra jorrae nu dwanrae dae thabaa shee.
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    • #62
      ur just playing in the hands of CIA, ur agenda matched therez if u can c...

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
        ur just playing in the hands of CIA, ur agenda matched therez if u can c...
        Qazi saiba my budget isn't 1/3rd owed to them. What is the agenda of CIA? If it is betterment of lar au bar Afghans nu kaedae shee farikhta wee lolzz j/k. Obviously my agenda is not theres, but you are digressing. Che da khudaad wathan thar 20 kaala warna arabo ddalar waaghesht nu ayaa daa da CIA agenda da ao ka zamaa khabarae. Lag pae soch wokaee manana.
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        • #64
          no their agenda is simply to divide muslims and create racial difference. and ur doin that all to well.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
            no their agenda is simply to divide muslims and create racial difference. and ur doin that all to well.
            Qazi then you have a short term memory. First of all, CIA did not divide muslims, the British and French did that. Oh and the Arab nationalists helped them (so did the muslim league btw). Then they imposed the Durand line and treaty of Gandamak on you. Then they kept the Afghan state divided on an artificial line, and did not return it back to its rightful state. Before you accuse another individual, it would help if you read some history about that topic.
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            • #66
              CIA did not divide muslims at any stage?? its not doing that now too?? lolz!! thats news for me! I thot vn CIA funded, baloch and afghan terrorist orgz and nationalist parties, mayb thats called dividing but mayb u use sum other term for it. So if ARABS helped them so now is it must that we cry over it till doom? u remember sumthng abt afghan division? the afghans negotiated with british and then the line was demarcated, if afghan ruler (amir abdur rehman khan) had an ounce of ghairat at that time, he wud have said sumthn than act like a pet animal. u forget vn the rulers at kabul cut us off from afghanistan and acted like cowards?? that is y the coward half is now in constant suffering, history repeats itself.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
                CIA did not divide muslims at any stage?? its not doing that now too?? lolz!! thats news for me! I thot vn CIA funded, baloch and afghan terrorist orgz and nationalist parties, mayb thats called dividing but mayb u use sum other term for it. So if ARABS helped them so now is it must that we cry over it till doom? u remember sumthng abt afghan division? the afghans negotiated with british and then the line was demarcated, if afghan ruler (amir abdur rehman khan) had an ounce of ghairat at that time, he wud have said sumthn than act like a pet animal. u forget vn the rulers at kabul cut us off from afghanistan and acted like cowards?? that is y the coward half is now in constant suffering, history repeats itself.
                Qazi we are Afghans too, so where was your or my ghairath when it was being demarcated? It is easy to speak in such terms and mis quote history.

                And no CIA didn't divide muslims, shall I remind you at that time CIA didn't even exist. CIA came after the second world war. The divisions were put forward by the British and French. And up until now CIA are funding a large chunk of Pakistan's intelligencia and they supported Pakistan over Afghanistan right through the cold war. They also funded the mujahideen. Your other statements are gibberish.
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                • #68
                  I was not there vn it was being demarcated, but i really hate the afghan "rent-a-country-on-a-100-year-lease" thing they did vid our region.
                  no im talking abt CIA now, not back then. Back then they were british indeed. but i think if ppl wud have wanted unity, 60 yrz were more than enuf to get it.

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                  • #69
                    and i dnt understand hw i misquoted history??

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
                      I was not there vn it was being demarcated, but i really hate the afghan "rent-a-country-on-a-100-year-lease" thing they did vid our region.
                      no im talking abt CIA now, not back then. Back then they were british indeed. but i think if ppl wud have wanted unity, 60 yrz were more than enuf to get it.
                      First of all, you can talk about CIA right now, but that still won't defend what you are saying. Yes we all disliked the demarcation, but many states at the time were forced to do it, so were the Chinese. Afghanistan and Pashtunkhwa did not accept Pakistan in 47 but were pushed into it due to the Cold war. They tried, but the Soviet-Afghan war (you know the one where those CIA people and ISI and Saudi were helping fund the militant groups against the khalqis and Parcham) destroyed most of Afghanistan infrastructure and had negative effects east of the durand line.

                      60 years were enough to get after Israel, maybe they should let it go right? 60 years were enough to try and take kashmir, maybe you should give up ;-)/
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                      • #71
                        wots happening in israel and kashmir has nothing to do with our "race-based-state" bull****, if v vant a muslim state having islam as basis, i wud more that support that, but if u want a pakhtun race based state, Allah wont let u succeed, u know hw the hadiths predict pakhtunkhwa b4 dooms day?? and it is refered to as a powerful muslim state, not afghan!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
                          wots happening in israel and kashmir has nothing to do with our "race-based-state" bull****, if v vant a muslim state having islam as basis, i wud more that support that, but if u want a pakhtun race based state, Allah wont let u succeed, u know hw the hadiths predict pakhtunkhwa b4 dooms day?? and it is refered to as a powerful muslim state, not afghan!
                          This has what to do with the discussion? I already told you I am aware about hadith, but it doesn't include defending your state, which is 100% british proxy. That is why the majority of ulema were against its creation. Don't worry about the Pashtunkhwa or Loy Afghanistan, it is Afghan territory.

                          Israel and Kashmir didn't have anything but you said that 60 years past so it was enough time. I showed you that if that is the case then it should be applied to Israel and Kashmir.
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                          • #73
                            dude, british was 60 years ago, u treat the blood of those who died for Pak so cheap. Ulema were against the damn loudspeaker too so dnt tell me wot they thot.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Qazi Saad Yousafzai View Post
                              dude, british was 60 years ago, u treat the blood of those who died for Pak so cheap. Ulema were against the damn loudspeaker too so dnt tell me wot they thot.
                              You treat the blood of your own so cheap who fought 80 years against British and who were against the creation of Pakistan. What about them? What about your masheraan who died in the first, second and third anglo-Afghan war? Or faqir i ipi? Or Ayub Khan (general in the second anglo-afghan war) or Ghazi Mohammad Jan? Are they so cheap that you look over them?

                              BTW I am not talking about the kalae mulaa, I am talking about the majority of Ulema in the world, and majority were against Pakistan. These people knew Islam far better than your Mashr Jinnah or Iqbal. Funny how you justify Islam and then sideline it the next moment.
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                              • #75
                                and its even funnier hw u have sum kind of impression that ur the only wise person and jinnah and iqbal were just a bunch of fools. if u dnt mind, ill ask again, where do u live?

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