Jihad al Talab proves violence is there

[BarakzaiAbdali]

How much are you going to lie stupid mullah, look at this article from your professor and why he left Islam, he was clearly a muslim when he wrote your article: I left both Christianity and Islam behind: “It was the problem of evil and innocent suffering that truly led me out of religion” - Salon.com

again you can not fool anyone, no matter how much you try

LOOOOOL. Vindaloo - those stinky genetics of yours that got rejected by that Pashtun girl's family and by Jennifer are pushing you headlong into looking dumber and dumber.

Let's dissect your statement shall we?

1. There is no "Fooling" anyone. The man clearly says he left Islam behind - hence not a Muslim. That makes the argument STRONGER since he studied Islamic theology in great detail. The Ex-Muslim crowd is more often in the camp of attacking Islam than defending it.

*side note: one need not "fool" a fool - they progress from fool to idiot all on their own as we shall see with you.

In fact he says:

But that’s not what happened. I spoke at classrooms and I dedicated myself to refuting and combating Islamist extremist views like those of al-Qaida. A year later, I was enrolled in graduate school, formally training in Islamic studies and Arabic, all within the framework of the academic discipline of Religious Studies. For my master’s degree, I implicitly refuted (for the sake of academic objectivity) the legal judgments of Muslim scholars who advocated the legitimacy of suicide bombing as a warfare tactic. For my doctorate, I returned to the research I’d begun in Cairo and immersed myself in Sunni theology (‘ilm al-kalam), particularly its relationship to politics.

So now by your running theory - a random white academician decided to what? To adopt extremism, THEN write the journal article as an insidious plot to defend his fellow extremists, THEN leave behind Islam? All the while, writing anti extremism treatises? Hahahaha. What a deluded Hinjew you are.

As per above- watching you reason through that is hilarious. The progression from fool to idiot is nearing completion in you.

2. Your red bolded bolded statement above reads:

He was clearly a Muslim when he wrote your article

Let's go into the article you cited:

1. So first of all, lol, its not an article you nit wit. This is why its clear that you're some half employed samosa seller that orders National Geo DNA kits as opposed to a real scientist of any sort.

Its a WHITE PAPER, not an opinion peace.

The front page of the actual publication seen here:

http://csc.asu.edu/wp-content/uploads/pdf/csc1202-quran-verses.pdf

Notes that the grant funding the research came THE OFFICE OF NAVAL RESEARCH (as in US Navy nitwit).

2. He says:

By the time I finished my doctorate, I’d begun moving away from Islam. At the age of 29, after 10*years of practicing Sunni Islam, I could no longer call myself a Muslim in the proper sense. I stopped fasting during Ramadan. I rarely made*salah (daily prayer). I no longer shunned pepperoni on my pizza. Chapters (surahs) of the Quran I’d memorized faded.*Allah*became increasingly abstract in my mind. For a time I toyed with highly nuanced neologisms like “Muslim humanist,” but that didn’t last. My life as a Muslim was over. I did not switch to a different religion or return to Protestant Christianity, though. By leaving Islam, I was leaving religion as a whole.

Watch as I show everyone how dumb you really are with some basic background checks:

Jeffry Halverson - 3 Public Records Found

He is 38 years old.

the white paper in question, seen here:

http://csc.asu.edu/wp-content/uploads/pdf/csc1202-quran-verses.pdf

Was published in 2012:

That would make him 33 years old at the time (since you are a fool I will write out the mathematics for you)

2017 minus 2012 = 5 years

38 years old minus = 33 years old (nearly half a decade beyond his cited age of 29 at giving up the practice of Islam).

- which by the information cited YOUR OWN CITATATION MEANS HE WAS NOT A MUSLIM LOOOOOOL.

SUMMARY: Once again Crotch-E... this is why Jennifer won't every truly be yours. The masaala chemistry that renders your thought processes so inadequate would never be preferred by a female of any species.

Basically, resign yourself to a life of bitterness over rejection, lol because that is what comes through so clearly.

Now, would you like to get some more intellectual trouncing?

[Karachi]

LOOOOOL. Vindaloo - those stinky genetics of yours that got rejected by that Pashtun girl's family and by Jennifer are pushing you headlong into looking dumber and dumber.

Let's dissect your statement shall we?

1. There is no "Fooling" anyone. The man clearly says he left Islam behind - hence not a Muslim. That makes the argument STRONGER since he studied Islamic theology in great detail. The Ex-Muslim crowd is more often in the camp of attacking Islam than defending it.

*side note: one need not "fool" a fool - they progress from fool to idiot all on their own as we shall see with you.

In fact he says:



So now by your running theory - a random white academician decided to what? To adopt extremism, THEN write the journal article as an insidious plot to defend his fellow extremists, THEN leave behind Islam? All the while, writing anti extremism treatises? Hahahaha. What a deluded Hinjew you are.

As per above- watching you reason through that is hilarious. The progression from fool to idiot is nearing completion in you.

2. Your red bolded bolded statement above reads:



Let's go into the article you cited:

1. So first of all, lol, its not an article you nit wit. This is why its clear that you're some half employed samosa seller that orders National Geo DNA kits as opposed to a real scientist of any sort.

Its a WHITE PAPER, not an opinion peace.

The front page of the actual publication seen here:

http://csc.asu.edu/wp-content/uploads/pdf/csc1202-quran-verses.pdf

Notes that the grant funding the research came THE OFFICE OF NAVAL RESEARCH (as in US Navy nitwit).

2. He says:



Watch as I show everyone how dumb you really are with some basic background checks:

Jeffry Halverson - 3 Public Records Found

He is 38 years old.

the white paper in question, seen here:

http://csc.asu.edu/wp-content/uploads/pdf/csc1202-quran-verses.pdf

Was published in 2012:

That would make him 33 years old at the time (since you are a fool I will write out the mathematics for you)

2017 minus 2012 = 5 years

38 years old minus = 33 years old (nearly half a decade beyond his cited age of 29 at giving up the practice of Islam).

- which by the information cited YOUR OWN CITATATION MEANS HE WAS NOT A MUSLIM LOOOOOOL.

SUMMARY: Once again Crotch-E... this is why Jennifer won't every truly be yours. The masaala chemistry that renders your thought processes so inadequate would never be preferred by a female of any species.

Basically, resign yourself to a life of bitterness over rejection, lol because that is what comes through so clearly.

Now, would you like to get some more intellectual trouncing?

Looks like Mullah is having a exploding diarrhea

The fact is you were caught lying haramkhor, you said he was a non muslim to begin with, you were clearly trying to fool people, but a third class haramkhor taliban will never be able to fool anyone, that fact is this guy left Islam because of evil muslims like you encouraging violence in the name of Islam, he left your so called "great" faith even after studying it so much, this clearly shows at an academic level Islam means nothing and these haramkhor muslims like you dying and killing in the name of Islam are just waste of life and pieces of _hit

and this guy is just one guy doing research lol, nobody has even heard of him in the Islamic world and nobody has even quoted his so called great study in articles, he can't even speak arabic, how am I suppose to take his research serious lol?, and the first guy commenting in the article had clear legit points, why are there so many extremist muslim terrorists everywhere? a country like Pakistan has 300 terrorist organizations, his claim that they portray that as defensive jihad is clearly wrong. Almost all muslims terrorists organizations have the same theme at the heart, to establish a sharia state, doesn't matter ISIS, Alqaeda, Taliban, Abu Sayaf, Al Shabab, Boko Haram etc.. the list goes on and on. this is not a defensive war they do, this is a offensive war

Also try finding someone from the Islamic world that denounces Offensive Jihad and calls for banning it, this lonely white guy would never by able to solve the problems of muslim world, this is why he quiet Islam so fast lol, he saw the reality of you backward third class animals

[Karachi]

You're mixing up two things; Offensive Jihad and whether ISIS are actual followers of the Islamic Rulings.

They are following offensive Jihad you moron, the whole purpose of offensive jihad is to conquer lands and establish Sharia, this is exactly what they are trying to do and all the early islamic caliphs did offensive jihad, this is why Islam spread so quick, why are you idiots denying the most obvious thing in Islamic history

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

They are following offensive Jihad you moron, the whole purpose of offensive jihad is to conquer lands and establish Sharia, this is exactly what they are trying to do and all the early islamic caliphs did offensive jihad, this is why Islam spread so quick, why are you idiots denying the most obvious thing in Islamic history

Let me ask you this, Have ISIS targeted the elderly or non-combatants?

[Kakar-Wardak]

we are not talking about defensive war here idiot, morons like you have no right to conduct offensive war on people living their lives normally, you will pay a heavy price if you do, this is not the 7th century anymore

Munafiq I wouldn't want a coward like you in jihad anyway, stay at home with the women, Jihad is a part of Islam whether offensive or defensive.

[Karachi]

Munafiq I wouldn't want a coward like you in jihad anyway, stay at home with the women, Jihad is a part of Islam whether offensive or defensive.

exactly, thank you for being truthful, unlike this bark-zai, who keeps lying and making excuses all time that there is no such thing and no muslim or these groups want Sharia law, who is he fooling really? he doesn't have any balls to tell the truth, whats the point of Islam then if no muslim wants Sharia law lol, he can't even fool a 5 year old with his BS

[Karachi]

Let me ask you this, Have ISIS targeted the elderly or non-combatants?

No not elderly, and non combatants in many situations are allowed to be targeted so they are following Islam

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

No not elderly, and non combatants in many situations are allowed to be targeted so they are following Islam

Incorrect, actually ISIS targeted the elderly.

ISIS targets the young, then the old in twin bombings - CNN.com


So one major point where ISIS diverges from Islamic rulings on Jihad.

Campaigns

It is appropriate for Muslim people not to act perfidiously, to fetter [ghalla],[1] to maim, nor to kill a woman, old man, juvenile, blind person, nor a cripple, unless one of these people seems to be involved with the war or unless the woman is a queen. They do not kill an insane person.

From ISIS' own words

ISIS Isn’t Done Targeting Kids After Manchester Attack

…do not look for specific targets. Kill anybody. All the kuffar over there are targets. Don’t tire yourself and look for difficult targets. Kill whoever is over there from the kuffar......

Muslims currently living in Dar al-Kufr must be reminded that the blood of the disbelievers is halal, and killing them is a form of worship to Allah, the Lord, King, and God of mankind. This includes the businessman riding to work in a taxicab, the young adults (post-pubescent “children”) engaged in sports activities in the park, and the old man waiting in line to buy a sandwich.

So as you can see you don't know what you're talking about.

Which instances are non-combatants allowed to be targets? Can you show a precise citation?

[Saleh]

the word jahad/jihad means self defence. self defence by definition cannot be ''offensive''.

After the big ugly Soviet Communist empire fell, the West needed a new boogyman. They found Muslims.

Muslims as a civilization, are weak. Until muslims build a civilization that has capability to properly defend itself, muslims will continue to suffer, and our noble religion, will continue to be portrayed in a negative light.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Looks like Mullah is having a exploding diarrhea

No man, its like I told you last time -stool is not the same as your curry and masala even if that is the mistake you keep making. But its pretty gross you have moved on from "recycling" your own waste to asking others for theirs to make your culinary dishes

The fact is you were caught lying haramkhor, you said he was a non muslim to begin with,

Uh, no your pants are down and your XX genetics are on display for all to see. I did not use the words "non Muslim to begin with." Rather, my case strengthened since the author is a cuck ex Muslim like you.

you were clearly trying to fool people, but a third class haramkhor taliban will never be able to fool anyone,

With what? Strong data? Rebut the data Vindaloo boy. Whether its Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Michael Scheuer, Pape, or Halverson - it doesn't matter who or what wrote it. Your argument against the data amounts to ad hominem but an inability to rebut the content of the white paper in any meaningful way

that fact is this guy left Islam because of evil muslims like you encouraging violence in the name of Islam, he left your so called "great" faith even after studying it so much, this clearly shows at an academic level Islam means nothing and these haramkhor muslims like you dying and killing in the name of Islam are just waste of life and pieces of _hit

Loooooool. Strengthening the case of his research EVEN MORE then Vindaloo reject.

and this guy is just one guy doing research lol, nobody has even heard of him in the Islamic world and nobody has even quoted his so called great study in articles,

Yet the US Navy funded it and its a published white paper. Sooo we either put more weight into what a guy who has been rejected by 20 Pashtun girls and a white girl named Jennifer (who sells Samosas that probably taste pretty sh-itty) - AKA you vs an expert in his field. I think the choice is easy.

he can't even speak arabic, how am I suppose to take his research serious lol?,

Do you even think before you write or is it that you have the male equivalent of a period and your gay emotions just supersede any attempt at formulating a rebuttal or argument. Your own reference says:

A year later, I was enrolled in graduate school, formally training in Islamic studies and Arabic, all within the framework of the academic discipline of Religious Studies.

and the first guy commenting in the article had clear legit points,

He had opinions, not points. He basically was some online shlub like you who decided he did not like the contents or that it did not fit into his world view. Show us specifically where Major Dave had points. He basically said he did not like the Pape or Scheuer references (two impeccable top of the line Academic references mind you). Why you liked his commentary was that it was emotional and not substantive like pretty much all your thought processes and arguments lol.

why are there so many extremist muslim terrorists everywhere? a country like Pakistan has 300 terrorist organizations, his claim that they portray that as defensive jihad is clearly wrong.

Uh, and yet they are all operating in their locale so its actually clearly right except to a cuck like you

Almost all muslims terrorists organizations have the same theme at the heart, to establish a sharia state, doesn't matter ISIS, Alqaeda, Taliban, Abu Sayaf, Al Shabab, Boko Haram etc.. the list goes on and on. this is not a defensive war they do, this is a offensive war

Once again provide the evidence. Rather, the history and evidence show that in each of these theaters of war the US or US backed forces are involved and/or funding proxy governments. In fact the Boko example you give is perfect. The more harsh the crack down on them the more radical the group has become and the more followers they have gained from a message that the Christian portion of Nigeria is mounting an offensive campaign into their lands. Same goes for Al Shabab. Before they existed the Islamic Union courts petitioned the US with an olive branch to permit them to finally stabilize Somalia. The US refused and the local states actually backed a Christian Ethiopian incursion (with the expected atrocities) galvanizing more support for Shabab.

So keep talking lol. The more you talk the more obvious it becomes that you have no manliness about you. You're just some reject vindaloo who is trying DESPERATELY to compensate for what you believe are your DNA driven inadequacies. Your hope is that Jennifer will somehow dilute out the masala that makes you who you are in Karachi Jr.

You will have to explain though how a being with ovaries (you) will reproduce with another being with ovaries (Jennifer)

Also try finding someone from the Islamic world that denounces Offensive Jihad and calls for banning it, this lonely white guy would never by able to solve the problems of muslim world, this is why he quiet Islam so fast lol, he saw the reality of you backward third class animals

There's nothing to denounce since the evidence at hand from Pape, Scheuer, and this white paper are clearly demonstrating a defensive posturing. You more than anyone should understand defensive posturing since your anger and rage at Islam comes from being repeatedly rejected by Muslim girls hence the anger and blow back you feel towards Islam

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[a.s.takhar]

the word jahad/jihad means self defence. self defence by definition cannot be ''offensive''.

After the big ugly Soviet Communist empire fell, the West needed a new boogyman. They found Muslims.

Muslims as a civilization, are weak. Until muslims build a civilization that has capability to properly defend itself, muslims will continue to suffer, and our noble religion, will continue to be portrayed in a negative light.

Pashtuns are so weak they dont even have their own religion. They been enslaved mentally to think Arab man religion is "our noble religion".

[a.s.takhar]

^^ Barking.zai.Abdali
Q:Whats stopping him from moving to ISIS.stan?
Answer : Allah (SWT) ordered him to capture US$$$ from Kufar.

[BarakzaiAbdali]

^^ Barking.zai.Abdali
Q:Whats stopping him from moving to ISIS.stan?
Answer : Allah (SWT) ordered him to capture US$$$ from Kufar.

Lol- get a fresh joke. A thousand washed up commie fa-g-gots like yourself transformed into capitalist democrats have cycled through here with the same stale sh-it.

An Arab religion? As opposed to what? Some moronic tale of a Zen Buddha under a tree preaching a return in the form of a roach vs "nirvana"? Or some fire hopper Prince of Persia crap? Or some faith where the chief Gods (Shiva) symbol is a giant dong ?

Go drink your whiskey - you're on the verge of one of your alcohol withdrawal seizures and your cirrhosis is clearly active

[Saleh]

Pashtuns are so weak they dont even have their own religion. They been enslaved mentally to think Arab man religion is "our noble religion".

What a moron, you are.

No one gives a **** about Arabs. Only you desis worship Arabs. this is why their are treating you Desis like slaves in the Gulf, and you are okay with it even Desis will proudly make false storries of being descended from Arabs (beside descending from Turks, Afghans, Persians, etc. lol)

Islam is about God, the almighty creator of the universe and everything else. Has little to do with Arabs. Islam can be anyone's religion, if they choose this spritiual path to reach God. Just because the prophet happened to be born Arab, it doesn't mean it belongs to Arabs. That's illogical. God has no owner, only He owns everything else. Nor can He be claimed to belong to anyone, because He is the creator and destroyer of all.

The prophet was just a messenger of God, while he should be respected, he is in no way central. Nor is he deity. Had he been a deity, instead of simply a messenger, then you might have a case of ''Arab man religion''.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Pashtuns are so weak they dont even have their own religion. They been enslaved mentally to think Arab man religion is "our noble religion".

Even Hinduism isn't native to India, Rg Veda is about foreign invaders running amok in India. Basically all Hindus are slaves to people who came from Afghanistan. ZING!