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  • The Bombing in Kabul was most likely done By Jamiate Shaitani

    The devistating blast that killed almost one hundred people and injured hundreds of others looks like the work of Jamiate Islami. The political party of CEO Abdullah Abdullah, his partners in crime Amrullah Saleh, Ahmed Zia Massoud and Atta Noor.

    The warlords from Northern Alliance who are increasingly feeling sidelined and isolated since the arrival of Gulbudin Hekmatyar have the motive to commit this crime against the people of Afghanistan.

    After three very difficult years of ongoing struggle between CEO dr. Abdullah and president Ghani, the balance of power is shifting slowly but steaddily towards the latter. The arrival of Gulbudin Hekmatyar and his decision to side with the current government is seen as the threat by his long standing rivals. Jamiate Islami, which is an offshoot of Hekmatyar's Hizbe Islami has a very bloody and violent history of animosity and rivalry with the original main islamist party.

    The Northern alliance warlords have enjoyed the privilege of dominating Afghanistan's politics, economy and security services since 2001. After the departure of former president Hamid Karzai, the warlords increasingly feel that they should grab a bigger share of power and wealth in Afghanistan. By losing the elections to Ashraf Ghani they felt threatened. However, thanks to a deal made by former American state secretary John Kerry, Jamiat managed to obtain a large share in the current government via the newly introduced post of Chief Executive Officer for Abdullah Abdullah.

    However, national and international political pressure forced the current government to sideline Jamiati warlords. The succesful political manuvres by Ashraf Ghani and his alliance with Gulbudin Hekmatyar forced Jamiatis to the side.

    Currently all factions within Jamiat are concerned about their further and the coming elections. They believe that they can't win by popular vote and they don't feel secure because their international allies and backers won't give them the type of support they're use to. They are afraid of loosing the wealth and power they have amassed in the last 16 years thanks to the occupation of Afghanistan.

    An un extremely large distabilizing event like a massive bomb explosion right at the heart of Kabul's diplomatic quarters is a perfect opportunity for Jamiatis. They can use the rising discontent with the current government along with the ongoing war against the Taliban and DAESH to force the president out of his office.

    When DAESH grabbed a large portion of Iraq and established itself, the sitting government of Nuri al Maliki in Baghdad came under pressure. Eventhough the government was backed by United States, Al Maliki was still forced to step down.

    The Jamiatis could have planned and staged a similar coup of sorts against Ashraf Ghani.

    While Taliban and Daesh are known of their targeted attacks on civilians, both groups don't have the capability to penetrate Kabul's diplomatic quarters with an explosive device as big as the one used yesterday.

    The current security apparatus is invested with Jamiatis and therefore, they have the ability to stage a bombing like the one we've seen yesterday.

    For the reasons mentioned here, I believe that is most likely that the attack was carried out by Jamiatis. They have absolutely no regard for human lives as we know what they have done to civilians in Kabul in the 90's civil war.

    If you think that my theory makes sense, please comment and share your thoughts.
    Last edited by Shamlawar Khurasani; 06-02-2017, 12:44 PM.
    Originally posted by Firdousi
    Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
    The devistating blast that killed almost one hundred people and injured hundreds of others looks like the work of Jamiate Islami. The political party of CEO Abdullah Abdullah, his partners in crime Amrullah Saleh, Ahmed Zia Massoud and Atta Noor.

    The warlords from Northern Alliance who are increasingly feeling sidelined and isolated since the arrival of Gulbudin Hekmatyar have the motive to commit this crime against the people of Afghanistan.

    After three very difficult years of ongoing struggle between CEO dr. Abdullah and president Ghani, the balance of power is shifting slowly but steaddily towards the latter. The arrival of Gulbudin Hekmatyar and his decision to side with the current government is seen as the threat by his long standing rivals. Jamiate Islami, which is an offshoot of Hekmatyar's Hizbe Islami has a very bloody and violent history of animosity and rivalry with the original main islamist party.

    The Northern alliance warlords have enjoyed the privilege of dominating Afghanistan's politics, economy and security services since 2001. After the departure of former president Hamid Karzai, the warlords increasingly feel that they should grab a bigger share of power and wealth in Afghanistan. By losing the elections to Ashraf Ghani they felt threatened. However, thanks to a deal made by former American state secretary John Kerry, Jamiat managed to obtain a large share in the current government via the newly introduced post of Chief Executive Officer for Abdullah Abdullah.

    However, national and international political pressure forced the current government to sideline Jamiati warlords. The succesful political manuvres by Ashraf Ghani and his alliance with Gulbudin Hekmatyar forced Jamiatis to the side.

    Currently all factions within Jamiat are concerned about their further and the coming elections. They believe that they can't win by popular vote and they don't feel secure because their international allies and backers won't give them the type of support they're use to. They are afraid of loosing the wealth and power they have amassed in the last 16 years thanks to the occupation of Afghanistan.

    An un extremely large distabilizing event like a massive bomb explosion right at the heart of Kabul's diplomatic quarters is a perfect opportunity for Jamiatis. They can use the rising discontent with the current government along with the ongoing war against the Taliban and DAESH to force the president out of his office.

    When DAESH grabbed a large portion of Iraq and established itself, the sitting government of Nuri al Maliki in Baghdad came under pressure. Eventhough the government was backed by United States, Al Maliki was still forced to step down.

    The Jamiatis could have planned and staged a similar coup of sorts against Ashraf Ghani.

    While Taliban and Daesh are known of their targeted attacks on civilians, both groups don't have the capability to penetrate Kabul's diplomatic quarters with an explosive device as big as the one used yesterday.

    The current security apparatus is invested with Jamiatis and therefore, they have the ability to stage a bombing like the one we've seen yesterday.

    For the reasons mentioned here, I believe that is most likely that the attack was carried out by Jamiatis. They have absolutely no regard for human lives as we know what they have done to civilians in Kabul in the 90's civil war.

    If you think that my theory makes sense, please comment and share your thoughts.
    Interesting point of view. But.. can you prove it? It looks more like an irrational and baseless emotional rant than anything else. This is Afghanistan after all, who has any regard for human lives? No one.

    Lets stick to the facts: so far, Jamiatis have endorsed peace negotiations with Hekmatyar. He even visited Rabbani´s house like two weeks ago in order to pay his respects to the late head of Jamiat Islami. Actually Hezb Islami and Jamiati Islami shared a common candidacy in the past elections, so this doesn't make any sense.

    Today I came across a video on FB where a former general was claiming that it was not a truck bomb but an air bombing. This makes sense (there is a huge hole). You see the bomb was detonated near to the German embassy, just a day after Germany and USA traded huge accusations and even insults. So lets say for the sake of the argument that Trump is stupid enough to bomb the German embassy just to "send a message" to Merkel.. its an interesting theory but unforuntately it can not be proved for now.
    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

    -Ferdowsi.

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    • #3
      You guys are failing to grasp the reality of whats going on not in Afghistan but in the whole world. In this past week Trump refused to endorse the Chapter 5 of NATO treaty. This means that the entire Western hegemony is falling apart. The Liberal Order, which has brought so much progress, peace and rights to the world, is collapsing. We are witnessing the end of the American Century, the end of Globalization, the end of the Western unity, the begging of the Chinese/Asian Century, the beginning of the spheres of influence, the beginning of authoritarian democracy as an alternative to liberal democracy, and so on. So this attack in Afghanistan might be just another event amidst a cascade of other worldwide events. But who knows? We can't prove it after all.
      "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
      I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

      -Ferdowsi.

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      • #4
        Its not about proof. This is about figuring out who had the motive to commit this act. You can't refute my claim that Jamiatis have the motive. Anything else you see is irrelevant to this topic.
        Originally posted by Firdousi
        Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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        • #5
          Sounds interesting and you come up with some good points.

          According to my view and analyze of the event. There could be two possible scenarios.

          1) It was done by Haqqani network through Pakistan. There were a huge discontent by the people and protest was held. The Jamiatis used the opportunity and disregarded the lives of Afghans to manipulate the event into an anti government protest to make a coup.
          2) Jamiatis planned the attack with foreign backers either Pakistan or Iran to stage a coup against the government.

          A third and an alternative could be that the Jamiatis in cooperation with insurgency staged the bombing. The problem is that there were no claims by any insurgence regarding the attack. Usually they jump and take the opportunity to claim responsibility and boast about it. Currently one cannot say for sure how and what happened, but one thing is for certain, that Jamiat is involved.

          One should remember, that normally attacks like these are a rally point for the country to unite and support the government, but the event turned into anti government protest way to systematically to be coincidental. Even if we assume people wanted justice, how in the world did it turn into resignation of the president. Normally protesters would want justice brought to perpetrators, but this was systematically directed into a coup.
          Also what need to be taken into consideration is the fact that armed people snuck among the protesters and started to shot the police and make it seems like the police were shooting at unarmed civilians.
          Don't quote me or speak to me if you hate Afghanistan, you be ignored.

          People with identity crisis will be ignored as well.

          ''When you cant make them see the light, make them feel the heat''
          Ronald Reagan

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
            One should remember, that normally attacks like these are a rally point for the country to unite and support the government, but the event turned into anti government protest way to systematically to be coincidental. Even if we assume people wanted justice, how in the world did it turn into resignation of the president. Normally protesters would want justice brought to perpetrators, but this was systematically directed into a coup.
            Also what need to be taken into consideration is the fact that armed people snuck among the protesters and started to shot the police and make it seems like the police were shooting at unarmed civilians.
            exellent! Well put.
            Originally posted by Firdousi
            Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
              Its not about proof. This is about figuring out who had the motive to commit this act. You can't refute my claim that Jamiatis have the motive. Anything else you see is irrelevant to this topic.
              Well this is hilarious. So you claim something but you refuse to provide any reliable evidence. Those corrupt Jamiatis are capable of this and much more but this can't be taken seriously basically because you failed to back up your claims with evidences. Period.
              "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
              I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

              -Ferdowsi.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DSM0305 View Post
                Sounds interesting and you come up with some good points.

                According to my view and analyze of the event. There could be two possible scenarios.

                1) It was done by Haqqani network through Pakistan. There were a huge discontent by the people and protest was held. The Jamiatis used the opportunity and disregarded the lives of Afghans to manipulate the event into an anti government protest to make a coup.
                2) Jamiatis planned the attack with foreign backers either Pakistan or Iran to stage a coup against the government.

                A third and an alternative could be that the Jamiatis in cooperation with insurgency staged the bombing. The problem is that there were no claims by any insurgence regarding the attack. Usually they jump and take the opportunity to claim responsibility and boast about it. Currently one cannot say for sure how and what happened, but one thing is for certain, that Jamiat is involved.

                One should remember, that normally attacks like these are a rally point for the country to unite and support the government, but the event turned into anti government protest way to systematically to be coincidental. Even if we assume people wanted justice, how in the world did it turn into resignation of the president. Normally protesters would want justice brought to perpetrators, but this was systematically directed into a coup.
                Also what need to be taken into consideration is the fact that armed people snuck among the protesters and started to shot the police and make it seems like the police were shooting at unarmed civilians.
                Its pretty obvious who was behind this attack: Jamiat, Israel, ISI, USA, Iran, Haqqani and india lmao

                The only thing we can be sure about this attack its that the suicide bomber was a Pashtun. Now you guys, as usual, want to divert the attention and blame it on everyone else. Pashtun tribal fascist mentality at work here.
                "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                -Ferdowsi.

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                • #9
                  The rights in Kabul and the armed men who took shots at police officers were all part of Amrullah Saleh's plan. Witnesses have stated that their protest was undermined because goons from Panjsher had other plans.

                  This seems like they know exactly what they're doing. I blame Ashraf Ghani. He should have never accepted John Kerry's proposal. He wanted to share power with Jamiatis. Now he is harvesting his own produce.
                  Originally posted by Firdousi
                  Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                    The rights in Kabul and the armed men who took shots at police officers were all part of Amrullah Saleh's plan. Witnesses have stated that their protest was undermined because goons from Panjsher had other plans.

                    This seems like they know exactly what they're doing. I blame Ashraf Ghani. He should have never accepted John Kerry's proposal. He wanted to share power with Jamiatis. Now he is harvesting his own produce.
                    And I blame Jamiatis for accepting Kerry´s proposal. They won the election after committing Pashtuns massive fraude. They should have carried out that coup, split the country and now we wouldnt be suffering Pashtun terrorism in our country lol

                    You see this is a two ways street? You are being deliberately stupid and irrational now, brother.
                    "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                    I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                    -Ferdowsi.

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                    • #11
                      Flat headed amu Jumper, Jamyat can't even manage a club let me run a country or win an election--the stupidity of you refugees amu jumpers are allowing our Paki enemy to stab us repeatedly and achieve their ultimate goal of breaking Afghan state---just like 90s--history repeats itself.
                      The fact is even with your "Abar Mard e Tarikh" Massod e Buzak(goat) you could not venture 10 miles east/south of Kabul river inside Kabul city let alone rule the country.

                      Armed flat headed Amu Jumpers

                      https://www.facebook.com/aminkhatira...9957750543753/
                      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                      • #12
                        ISIS monkey! You have a nice theory taken out of your donkey´s ass but it is far from reality and it does lack credibility. Let´s take apart your pathetic conspiracy belief.

                        1. Jamiat Eslami´s history is a bit deeper rooted and older in years than 60years, while Hizb Eslami has still to reach it´s 45years history since it´s establishment by your national savage hero

                        2. You give to much credite or credibility to these jerks named Saleh, Abdullah, Zia ... they are like your national hero Gulbuddin, powerless idiots and morons sold and bought by money with some view supporters and armed men. The only one who should be taken serious is Atta and local commanders of Kabul and northern plains like Ahmad Jan Parwani who could activate 50,000 fighters whenever he wants or gets order from Atta. The Panjshiri section is busy with other things than becoming terrorists and ass-lickers, a profession, that you have claimed for yourself since decades! But suprise suprise, Registani announced he will reactivate Shoray Nezar party and arm them to teeth since government failed to ensure security!

                        3. You give still Gulbudin credibility with his 2000 thugs and thiefs? Most of them are old jerks, too old to fight. Have you lost your mind? This mfker had to buy with the support of Ghani his audience. They even brought students and Hindus from schools and universities to listen to his verbal mastrubation in Kabul. On field, alone in Baghlan province the Jamiatis killed between 2006 and 2009 more than 4000 Hizbi fighters and their commanders. Today, Baghlan´s conflict is about local power. Pashtuns trying for years to overthrow the local power and powerful elements who own and dominate the local government, economy and resources and even trying to ship the economic capital of Baghlan to their own regions. Why you think your fascist Pashtunist president chose for a province that is dominated by Tajiks (70%-75%) a Pashtun and a former Talib as governeur? The non-Pashtuns know Gulbudin is not a danger for Afghanistan. He is used by Ghani as a symbol. Saleh´s badmouthing of Gulbuddin was because his dirty tone when this mfkr sold his namoos and nang by sending his daughters to the American Embassy to mediate with them about his returning to Afghanistan. Atta critized these donkies because they behaved like they have overthrown the government or government while Gulbudin and his dogs obeyed to Kabul and the USA. So what is your statement, cave-monkey?

                        4. What is your statement in regard to the elections? What and which win? As a Pashtun you must be blind and deaf when it comes to facts. You have forgotten your nearly 2 million rigged votes - ray gosfandi. No one is fearing the coming elections, no one. Either their will be a force that replace this government or the elections will take place under the supervision of western experts where Ghani and his dogs responsible for nearly every fake vote will be isolated. That is mostly the thing what will take place. 65%-70% of the country have a non-Pashtun background and their number on daily basis is increasing

                        It is very clear that the Pashtuns within the government are supporting Taliban and other terrorist groups who are sharing a Pashtun backhground and all these just to stay on power. The operator of the attack was either a BOMB thrown over Kabul or it was indeed a truck and according to the evidences the truck belonged to Yasini, a Nangarhari Pashtun and parliamentarian. You should better fear a civil war that we are right now facing. I don´t think that people will have pardon you this time...specially after today´s next suicide attack on the prayers during the funeral of Izadyar´s son.

                        We haven´t seen in all decades any Hazara Uzbek Tajik Turkmen Pashayi Parachi Dewari Nuristani ... suicide bomber. All of them WERE AND ARE PASHTUNS

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                        • #13
                          I believe its the right moment to mobilize and rearm Tajik militias. Situation is becoming unbearable.
                          "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                          I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                          -Ferdowsi.

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                          • #14
                            Afghanistan does not need armed Militias again and we definetly don't need the warlords the so called Mujahaddins again. They are the reason Afghanistan is suffering today. Whether it is the Northern Alliance, Hezb-i-Islami or other terror groups as long as its leaders are alive the country will not experience peace.

                            I am also ashamed of Zia Masoud and others taking advantage of the innocent peoples blood to seek governments resignation for their own advantages and personal power.

                            I pray to Allah swt to give patience and courage to all Afghans living in Afghanistan and pray that all the criminals from Northern Alliance, Hezb-i-Islami, Taliban, Haqqani network, ISIS and other groups burn in hell.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fish View Post
                              Afghanistan does not need armed Militias again and we definetly don't need the warlords the so called Mujahaddins again. They are the reason Afghanistan is suffering today. Whether it is the Northern Alliance, Hezb-i-Islami or other terror groups as long as its leaders are alive the country will not experience peace.

                              I am also ashamed of Zia Masoud and others taking advantage of the innocent peoples blood to seek governments resignation for their own advantages and personal power.

                              I pray to Allah swt to give patience and courage to all Afghans living in Afghanistan and pray that all the criminals from Northern Alliance, Hezb-i-Islami, Taliban, Haqqani network, ISIS and other groups burn in hell.
                              Its hilarious the way you guys want us to believe that these groups have no support among the average Afghan. It would surprise you. Afghans are quite munafiq people. They always say one thing while they think the opposite. Hypocrisy is possibly one of the few things that most of Afghans have in common. Most of Afghans despise corruption but they don't hesitate to bribe happily a policeman or a public servant if that helps them to further their interests.

                              Afghanistan this, Afghanistan that.. its a pointless debate. Afghanistan is a failed state. It doesn't even exist. Its just few lines drawn in a map by the Birts like a century ago. Afghanistan´s history, Afghanistan government, Afghanistan culture, identity,.. everything its fake.
                              "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                              I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                              -Ferdowsi.

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