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  • #76
    Originally posted by ZarakDurrani606 View Post
    And now here's another anomaly. A punjabi representing Pashtuns. "Having met a number of pashtuns" and you asked them about their views on Pashtunistan? You expect me to believe that, hindostaunee? Your statement was just a claim, to soothe your own insecurity.
    Dont forget, if in doubt, Punjabis' own government tells lies and pretends that their stinking people are:

    "the people of Punjab are descendants of the Iranians, Turks, Afghans and Arabs who came individually or in groups."

    Source: People | Punjab Portal



    Can anyone believe and trust anything these crap people with the biggest racial inferiority complex say?
    Long Live Baloch Freedom Struggle Until Victory!
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    • #77
      Originally posted by RoohMalang View Post
      What Pashtunistan? Dude be honest. Pashtuns in KPK hate Afghans. Punjabi people don't even have problems with Afghans as much as people from KPK. My own friends from Peshawar tell me how Afghans are muhajirs and cheat, lie, and steal.

      I don't even have an agenda because I could care less. Instead of living in a bubble dream land, you can address these issues without calling everyone that disagrees with you a 'gul khan'.
      And that's where YOUR ignorance becomes apparent. It seems that your marginally more sensible statements belie your utter cluelessness. A bunch of kids in peshawar don't make a difference. They're still outcasts and a SIGNIFICANT minority. Moreover, Pashtunistan isn't a well founded movement either but the regular Pashtun is tired of pakistan and what it represents. But then again, you would'nt know this because you're not us. I'm putting a lot of stress on the word "US". We call ourselves the "children of Afghan", a long time before modern Afghanistan was founded. Why should we be hating on our own brothers? It seems that since nothing else strenghthens your narrative, you base your claim off of speaking to bunch of "friends from peshawar".

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Pakistan View Post
        Doesn't matter we are going to deport you back to the land of milk and honey you came from .
        How about we see your punjab rejoin india? They love you so much. Same language, traditions, blood heck everything............ see you go on to the land of "people taking a **** on the streets-istan. ☺

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Pakistan View Post
          Doesn't matter we are going to deport you back to the land of milk and honey you came from .
          I can live with that kharay hindkowan. A hundred for you and MILLIONS for me. Seems like a fair deal. Take your hindkowan haters and join ponjab. Or we"ll sniff you out and lynch you lot especially since you want a hooker bar in Khyber. Confounding ignorance with patriotism typical paki nationalist bias

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Pakistan View Post
            I am from KP . You go out and interview 100 Pashtuns in a bazar ask them about Afghans and they will tell you exactly how they feel .
            You claim you are a Khattak.......go out and interview 1000 people in Bazaar or any part of KP, ask them about Khattaks and you will be surprised how much bad and mean things they will say about your tribe. You dont know about it because you have grown up in Islamabad and most probably you are a Kharay pretending to be a Khattak (commonly observed in Nowshera) or you are half-Punjabi from mother side. Any way the point is Pashtuns say mean things about each other, ask a wazir about neighboring Dawars and he will say some means things about them. But the same Wazir and Dawar hang out with each other and are very brotherly to each other outside their native Waziristan. Same is case with Lar and Bar Afghan.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Samandri View Post
              You claim you are a Khattak.......go out and interview 1000 people in Bazaar or any part of KP, ask them about Khattaks and you will be surprised how much bad and mean things they will say about your tribe. You dont know about it because you have grown up in Islamabad and most probably you are a Kharay pretending to be a Khattak (commonly observed in Nowshera) or you are half-Punjabi from mother side. Any way the point is Pashtuns say mean things about each other, ask a wazir about neighboring Dawars and he will say some means things about them. But the same Wazir and Dawar hang out with each other and are very brotherly to each other outside their native Waziristan. Same is case with Lar and Bar Afghan.
              I always hear about people hating on Khattaks. Why is that?
              Originally posted by Kaushika

              majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                I always hear about people hating on Khattaks. Why is that?
                All Pakhtuns tribes hate on one another. It is what it is. LOL.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Charsi Malang View Post
                  All Pakhtuns tribes hate on one another. It is what it is. LOL.
                  Yeah but I've heard lot of bad things about Khattaks in Particular.
                  Originally posted by Kaushika

                  majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                  • #84
                    what about pashtuns in pakistan?

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                      You claim you are a Khattak.......go out and interview 1000 people in Bazaar or any part of KP, ask them about Khattaks and you will be surprised how much bad and mean things they will say about your tribe. You dont know about it because you have grown up in Islamabad and most probably you are a Kharay pretending to be a Khattak (commonly observed in Nowshera) or you are half-Punjabi from mother side. Any way the point is Pashtuns say mean things about each other, ask a wazir about neighboring Dawars and he will say some means things about them. But the same Wazir and Dawar hang out with each other and are very brotherly to each other outside their native Waziristan. Same is case with Lar and Bar Afghan.
                      I doubt if even 2 % people in KP know what lar and bar Afghan concept is . Its a delusional idea made up by Afghan establishment to keep themselves happy about a land they are never going to get . And no My mother's side is not a Punjabi .

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Pakistan View Post
                        I doubt if even 2 % people in KP know what lar and bar Afghan concept is . Its a delusional idea made up by Afghan establishment to keep themselves happy about a land they are never going to get . And no My mother's side is not a Punjabi .
                        Poor delusional half breed kharay. You "doubt" but are unable to come up with any conclusive evidence. There lies the difference, an outsider, insecure kharee vs Pashtuns that actually represent their nation. Oh now post some more videos off of youtube.... please show us how desperately you try strenghthening your narrative by claiming how the punjabi airforce bombs mountains and ****all in Afghanistan. Lar and bar afghanistan is an inherently known fact, kharay halfbreed. Please go to pkdefence now. You're obnoxious and clingy, just like the rest of your indic kind

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by ZarakDurrani606 View Post
                          And that's where YOUR ignorance becomes apparent. It seems that your marginally more sensible statements belie your utter cluelessness. A bunch of kids in peshawar don't make a difference. They're still outcasts and a SIGNIFICANT minority. Moreover, Pashtunistan isn't a well founded movement either but the regular Pashtun is tired of pakistan and what it represents. But then again, you would'nt know this because you're not us. I'm putting a lot of stress on the word "US". We call ourselves the "children of Afghan", a long time before modern Afghanistan was founded. Why should we be hating on our own brothers? It seems that since nothing else strenghthens your narrative, you base your claim off of speaking to bunch of "friends from peshawar".
                          Well Durrani saab, I have spoken with a few friends. Afridi, Shinwari, Wazir, Marwat, Khattak and Bannuchi. A lot of them are tribal and have links in Afghanistan regarding family. I have never heard them say they hate Afghanistan. But it seems like they get very upset regarding the politics of Pakistan-Afghanistan relations. All of them love Pakistan, and consider Pakistan their country.

                          Now whether they disagree with the government or military establishment is entirely their own opinion. However, they still view themselves as Pakistanis, and a lot of them think that they own Pakistan. lol

                          I love Pashtun people in general, some more than others. That's because they have great culture, music and poetry.

                          The thing I don't understand about your idea of Pashtunistan is this. Pashtuns divide themselves among tribes. Just like we Punjabis do. So how will such a state like Pashtunistan be feasible If Pashtuns are not even willing to come together ethnically?

                          Trust me brother, I am a loyal Pakistani. I love my country, but I am not at the point where I can be considered a nationalist because I have some moral ethics as a Muslim that cannot be compromised.

                          There were Pakistani(Pashtun) workers in Afghanistan that were unarmed and killed by your ANA. Should all Pakistanis now hate Afghans or Pashtuns? That's ridiculous.

                          A lot of Afghans have contributed to terrorism in Pakistan such as the Peshawar APS school killings. Should all Pakistanis blame Afghans for the idiocy of a few men? NO.

                          At the end of the day, I think ethnic rivalries are beyond stupid. Even If you one day get your Pashtunistan, guess who you will have to deal with? Punjabis, Tajiks, Baluch, and Iranians.

                          So I encourage you to be pragmatic. I think Pakistan and Afghanistan should be the best of friends, and that we should be able to cross each other's borders freely.This is my hope.

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                          • #88
                            TOLO is owned by MOBEY Group and MOBEY Group is owned by FOX --- Rupert Murdock

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              TOLO is owned by MOBEY Group and MOBEY Group is owned by FOX --- Rupert Murdock
                              Moby Group is owned by Mohseni, a Tajik Shia originally from southern Afghanistan. Mohseni signed a an agreement with Rupert Murdoch.

                              Its hilarious how Mohseni is labeled in Afghanistan by many as an "Iranian spy" (mainly Pashtuns) while in Iran he is considered a "Zionist agent" for being in a partnership with Murdoch. Check this out. Its kinda old this article but still it deserves a read.

                              An Afghan Media Mogul, Pushing Boundaries - The New York Times

                              I fully support Mohseni. Thanks to him for the very first time in our history we Afghans have some sort of "soft power". Iranians, Tajiks and many Persianspeakers from the ME and CAR´s are addicted to Tolo and Farsi1. Mohseni should focus a bit more on Pakistan and india. Create a channel in Urdu/Hindi.
                              "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                              I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                              -Ferdowsi.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
                                Moby Group is owned by Mohseni, a Tajik Shia originally from southern Afghanistan. Mohseni signed a an agreement with Rupert Murdoch.

                                Its hilarious how Mohseni is labeled in Afghanistan by many as an "Iranian spy" (mainly Pashtuns) while in Iran he is considered a "Zionist agent" for being in a partnership with Murdoch. Check this out. Its kinda old this article but still it deserves a read.

                                An Afghan Media Mogul, Pushing Boundaries - The New York Times

                                I fully support Mohseni. Thanks to him for the very first time in our history we Afghans have some sort of "soft power". Iranians, Tajiks and many Persianspeakers from the ME and CAR´s are addicted to Tolo and Farsi1. Mohseni should focus a bit more on Pakistan and india. Create a channel in Urdu/Hindi.
                                Are you a sunni musalmaan?

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