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  • #16
    Hi, i have a little knowledge but can somebody educate me about Nawruz in afghanistan..I thought it is just celebrated in Iran as a new year arrival..Recently i have seen celebration in afghanistan too..Is Afghanistan follow the same ?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Qizilbash View Post
      Afghanistan isn't culturally Persian, many Tajiks and Persians call all Eastern, Islamic culture as Persians Which you call Persian culture?
      i wouldnt say Islam is a culture...its a religion...Turkey, Saudi, Somalia, Indonesia, Muslim India, etc. are very different cultures despite having the same religion....
      Last edited by Kabulistan; 03-21-2017, 07:53 AM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
        Gengis didnt uproot Persian civilization. Gengis had a smart and deliberate strategy against his enemies: those who refused his will were obliterated. Those who submitted were forgiven. Thats why Balkh, Samarqakn, Bukhara or Herat were destroyed while Neyshabur was not.

        he destroyed the lives of sedantry people and in most situation he massacred even those who submitted. he even did not spare the khawarzem turkic army who joined them and massacred them. in a very few situation where he spared the local, he would actually separate the artisan from the rest and sent them to mongolia.

        You know once Monghols defeated all their Persian, Arab, Chinese and Indian enemies and stopped with their conquest they had to rule their empire. Only then they realized how backward they were thats why they adopted local urban and sophisticated cultures and left behind their nomadic way of life. Thats what did Kublai Khan.
        that's wrong. how can a royalty realize that their way of life is backward? they carry on with their own way of life, and acceptance of local culture after centuries comes naturally and is not an adopted life. as i said they did not pursue the local way of life a rival to their own, they were moderate to religion and traditions.

        Most of modern Pashtuns are not nomads. Very few Kuchis remain. And believe me cultural appropriation is not about only stealing something. When some Pashtuns (not all of them of course) claim that Tajiks are not from this land or that our culture doesn't actually belong to us like you did few comments ago, that means that you consider in such a high moral ground that you can even dictate and impose on us what and how we should feel and consider ourselves. Thats intolerable.
        i am not even counting the kuchi. i mean the today pashtun tradition are rooted in their past nomadic and tribal way of life.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Firdousi View Post
          Aryan does not mean "white blonde german". Aryan means Iranic. We, Tajiks, Pashtuns, Kurds, Zazas, Persians, and so on, are the true and only Aryan people. Europeans are not included.

          You know kardash every time I think about a typical Tork-e Khar someone like you comes to my mind. Offense intended lol

          Please first educate yourself. Teshekur.
          Dear Gypsy Tajik, you not Aryan and can not be Aryan, the Aryans was a nomadic tribes in Central Asian 4,000-5,000 years ago who looked like Celtic or Slavic peoples. They came from modern Eastern Europe, and in those places people can not look like as Middle Eastern peoples, it's unreal. Your modern Gypsy brothers and you just a Persian-speaking aborigines, your directly ancestors was Dravidian and Semitic tribes.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kabulistan View Post
            i wouldnt say Islam is a culture...its a religion...Turkey, Saudi, Somalia, Indonesia, Muslim India, etc. are very different cultures despite having the same religion....
            Peoples from Maghrib to Eastern Turkestan and India have many similarity in culture, in cuisine, dress, literature, history.

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            • #21
              What credentials does a turk have to Talk about who/what is Aryan or not? These people have nothing to do with Turks what so ever...your out of your field Turk...Mongoloids and their hybrids belong to East Asia...Pan-Turks need to be deported back to Siberia, Mongolia or where ever the **** they came from...

              Originally posted by Qizilbash View Post
              Dear Gypsy Tajik, you not Aryan and can not be Aryan, the Aryans was a nomadic tribes in Central Asian 4,000-5,000 years ago who looked like Celtic or Slavic peoples. They came from modern Eastern Europe, and in those places people can not look like as Middle Eastern peoples, it's unreal. Your modern Gypsy brothers and you just a Persian-speaking aborigines, your directly ancestors was Dravidian and Semitic tribes.
              Aryans according to oldest sources from ancient Greece:





              As can be seen Afghanistan and much of the Iranian tectonic plate is what was mostly the land where people called themselves Aryan...

              If anyone has a right to claim Aryan, surely it must be the indigineous people who still live in these lands..
              Last edited by Kabulistan; 03-23-2017, 07:40 AM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Qizilbash View Post
                Peoples from Maghrib to Eastern Turkestan and India have many similarity in culture, in cuisine, dress, literature, history.
                Yes they do have similarities, but still vastly different...its why they are classified Eastern..different from NorthWest European (Western) cultures...even Ancient Greek and mediteranian cultures were at One point More similar to the cultures of the Eastern World...

                Old Christianity and Islam were pretty similar btw...

                Islam derrives from Christianity/Judaism btw...IT says in Quran itself...that its the Final/third book....

                There are similarities between Malyasia, India to Maghreb, but each culture is still quite distinct...aside from Islam, most muslim countires have quite different cultures and customs...

                The same way that European cultures (Christian) are quite different from cultures in Sub Saharan Africa who are also Christian.

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