Do Daesh really exists in northern Afghanistan

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

Do you guys believe that Daesh (ISIS) really exists in northern Afghanistan? If you ask me and those abit more aware of the current situation and in regard to the events of the last 3-5 years, I would say there is no Daesh movement in northern Afghanistan, except a small and weak Uzbek element that belonging to the Yoldash movement. There is also no any proof of ISIS movement in northern Afghanistan, except ''witnesses'' of ''victims''. The story about 200 Taliban fighters joining Rashid Dostum in Darzab districts was vehemently denied by Taliban sources and was made clear that they hadn´t fighters operating there. Some days later information were revealed by sources showing that those Taliban were all Uzbek militia men belonging to Dostum operating there under a fake lable (Taliban) to show their master being a hero. In my understanding the whole ISIS idea in northern Afghanistan, coincidentally there, where Dostum got the most votes (Faryab and parts of northern Sar Pol), is a fake story, a hoax and a try to legitimate Dostum to arm more of his militia men and recruiting uneducated civilians to build for him a unshakable base, similar to 1988-1992. For me the same game is played by Dostum as he have played in the 90s. Ordering his men to create chaos and fake news to legitimate his cruelty and rule in the region.

[Porus]

Ya

[Firdousi]

Do you guys believe that Daesh (ISIS) really exists in northern Afghanistan? If you ask me and those abit more aware of the current situation and in regard to the events of the last 3-5 years, I would say there is no Daesh movement in northern Afghanistan, except a small and weak Uzbek element that belonging to the Yoldash movement. There is also no any proof of ISIS movement in northern Afghanistan, except ''witnesses'' of ''victims''. The story about 200 Taliban fighters joining Rashid Dostum in Darzab districts was vehemently denied by Taliban sources and was made clear that they hadn´t fighters operating there. Some days later information were revealed by sources showing that those Taliban were all Uzbek militia men belonging to Dostum operating there under a fake lable (Taliban) to show their master being a hero. In my understanding the whole ISIS idea in northern Afghanistan, coincidentally there, where Dostum got the most votes (Faryab and parts of northern Sar Pol), is a fake story, a hoax and a try to legitimate Dostum to arm more of his militia men and recruiting uneducated civilians to build for him a unshakable base, similar to 1988-1992. For me the same game is played by Dostum as he have played in the 90s. Ordering his men to create chaos and fake news to legitimate his cruelty and rule in the region.

Too much blablabla. Please prove all your nonsense.

[Kabulistan]

Afghans need to get educated and stop their kids joining these stupid terrorist groups from Arabia...

I cant believe their influence has reached so far in the World, and people from all regions are dying for Arab causes, yet these bloody Arabs have barely contributed anything of positive to humanity...ironically these terrorists want kill people who do more to deserve the Grace of God.

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

Too much blablabla. Please prove all your nonsense.

How should I prove any proof when there is not even any proof for the existence of Daesh in Jowzjan and Faryab and parts of Sar-Pol? There is no physical proof except claims and rumors and there are also no physical victims except claims and rumors. Just 1 hour ago I watched the News and they claimed that 5 soldiers killed in Jowzjan by ISIS ... How and where? There was not even a single announcement of ISIS fighters or commanders in the north about to aware people of their existence unlike the real physical ISIS group in eastern Afghanistan and some parts of Farah province. Use your human brain and logic, the experience of the last 20 years from this country and stop pushing out gas.

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

Afghans need to get educated and stop their kids joining these stupid terrorist groups from Arabia...

I cant believe their influence has reached so far in the World, and people from all regions are dying for Arab causes, yet these bloody Arabs have barely contributed anything of positive to humanity...ironically these terrorists want kill people who do more to deserve the Grace of God.

In Afghanistan there is no measurement of what is education and what not. The education in Afghanistan is not worth in India, in all western countries and in 98% of the globe. If the education in Afghanistan has no same meaning as in other countries of course it will make for terrorist groups easier to influence the people, giving themselves the space and the resources to promote its ideology. Universities, schools, radio stations, mosques are favoured. We have clearly to make a difference between former Taliban fighters fighting now under ISIS lable and those who are real ISIS fighters. In my opinion something like ISIS doesn´t exist but are prior groups that have adoptet that title for themselves in Afghanistan but it doesn´t mean that they differ from other terrorist groups. There is no difference between Taliban and real ISIS or Haqqani and Gulbudinis

[Firdousi]

How should I prove any proof when there is not even any proof for the existence of Daesh in Jowzjan and Faryab and parts of Sar-Pol? There is no physical proof except claims and rumors and there are also no physical victims except claims and rumors. Just 1 hour ago I watched the News and they claimed that 5 soldiers killed in Jowzjan by ISIS ... How and where? There was not even a single announcement of ISIS fighters or commanders in the north about to aware people of their existence unlike the real physical ISIS group in eastern Afghanistan and some parts of Farah province. Use your human brain and logic, the experience of the last 20 years from this country and stop pushing out gas.

So.. you can't back up your claims with evidences, right? Just fairy tails.

Thank you, brother.

[Firdousi]

In Afghanistan there is no measurement of what is education and what not. The education in Afghanistan is not worth in India, in all western countries and in 98% of the globe. If the education in Afghanistan has no same meaning as in other countries of course it will make for terrorist groups easier to influence the people, giving themselves the space and the resources to promote its ideology. Universities, schools, radio stations, mosques are favoured. We have clearly to make a difference between former Taliban fighters fighting now under ISIS lable and those who are real ISIS fighters. In my opinion something like ISIS doesn´t exist but are prior groups that have adoptet that title for themselves in Afghanistan but it doesn´t mean that they differ from other terrorist groups. There is no difference between Taliban and real ISIS or Haqqani and Gulbudinis

Thats utter BS. Of course there is a lot of difference between them, you moron. Most of Taliban are peasants. Haqqanis and ISIS are dogs. Gulbudin is like most of your jamiati friends. If Sayyaf or Ismael Khan can cooperate with system why not Rocketyar?

[Zaadgaan Kabul]

So.. you can't back up your claims with evidences, right? Just fairy tails.

Thank you, brother.

Qertaki Fertaki moron, I hope this propagandist source shared just some hours ago open your eyes

ISIS may develop regional power base in Northwest of Afghanistan: ISW - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan News Agency

now go and f** yourself instead spreading your misinformations here among the folks like a sneaky fat spy

[Firdousi]

Qertaki Fertaki moron, I hope this propagandist source shared just some hours ago open your eyes

ISIS may develop regional power base in Northwest of Afghanistan: ISW - Khaama Press (KP) | Afghan News Agency

now go and f** yourself instead spreading your misinformations here among the folks like a sneaky fat spy

Two days ago you said this:

"...go consume Tolo News and then share your ''knowledge'' as ''insider information ''...

http://www.pashtunforums.com/political-talk-/51220-afghanistan-deep-political-national-crisis.html

An here you are now, relying on Khaama Press. Owned! Hahaha.

Have a good day, bro.

[Karachi]

Daesh is a Extremist Islamic ideology, it could exist everywhere.