A sincere message to all Afghans and Pakistanis

[toughpashtun]

Pakistan and Afghanistan are at war. Perhaps not officially but its pretty obvious we both are fighting each other through proxy forces. If you guys are not willing to hand over your good terrorists, don't expect us to hand over the bad terrorists. This is a two-way street: you consider our government puppet? Great. We consider your government kaffir and brit-made. So needs to be defeated.

Pak-Afg conflict was started by Afghanistan over that st*pid Pashtunistan issue. I give you that. But this current proxy war is all your fault.

Regarding those died few days ago I just don't care. Under normal circumstances I would seriously regret it. But right now I hate so much, so deeply what Pakistan represents that I don't give a f*ck when 100 Pakistanis get butchered.

Well I appreciate the fact that you are so candid about expressing your feelings,and that too in a somewhat decent manner(by the standards of this forum)
Yes, there are some things we do not agree on.
Lets leave it at that.
Goodbye.

[DaZahroJaam.]

So much love..

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[toughpashtun]

Very sad and condemnable . No one should be treated like this.This took place in Sindh province.The police in Sindh and Punjab are 'men at their worst'.Utterly unprofessional.
Punjab police in a small town issued orders to be on look out for all Pashtun looking people,as Samandri recently posted a thread about.Pashtuns may be targeted in the near future in Punjab and Sindh , particularly in those areas where they are not living in great numbers.

Edit: I have come to know that Punjab police issued a statement dissociating themselves from the notice that was circulated on social media, and which called for profiling of Pashtuns and Afghans.
Having said that, I must admit that Afghans are being treated very badly in Pakistan these days, and it spikes after a terror incident.

[DaZahroJaam.]

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[toughpashtun]

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The people being beaten in this video are not Afghans. They are captured TTP militants.This video was first released on social media in December 2014 after the APS attack in Peshawar,when there was great public outrage against the TTP.The link you posted does not actually contain the whole video,which is longer.This is a part of the original video.
The title and headline that this Facebook page gave this video is false.I would suggest to stop following pages like these which spread incorrect information.

[Elite Pakhtun]

DZJ, thank you for showing these. As neutral observers, especially from Pakistan, we have to call a spade a spade. When something bad transpires, we should call it out. Similarly, when we're being maligned and it's unjust, we should do the same. This is definitely unsightly. The screams are also kinda horrifying. Those are enough clues for me to figure it out, and I'm going to go with "This is bad". I'm pretty sure that's the correct answer.

Pakistan is generally a bit of a brutal country, and they treat the poor like this. I am in no way defending this behavior... I'm saying, there's a slight possibility it may not be specifically targeting Afghans. Although, that behavior is (probably) bad. Mainly because I'm Pashtun, and it hurts my narcissism. I suppose it may morally bad too? I dunno, you can help me out on that one... I don't really know about that one. But here are more police brutality instances, and you can't really say they were being racist here:

Punjab Police Beating and torturing people - YouTube

Rangers' torture the youth of Karachi - YouTube

third degree torture on police custody - YouTube

PS sometimes the police get their asses beat

punjab police pr Zulm ki intaha - YouTube

A Man Slap To Punjab Police - YouTube (Pashtun slapping Punjabi policeman)

P.P.S. Indians do the same

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPZDTLkcxvQ

[toughpashtun]

DZJ, thank you for showing these. As neutral observers, especially from Pakistan, we have to call a spade a spade. When something bad transpires, we should call it out. Similarly, when we're being maligned and it's unjust, we should do the same. This is definitely unsightly. The screams are also kinda horrifying. Those are enough clues for me to figure it out, and I'm going to go with "This is bad". I'm pretty sure that's the correct answer.

Pakistan is generally a bit of a brutal country, and they treat the poor like this. I am in no way defending this behavior... I'm saying, there's a slight possibility it may not be specifically targeting Afghans. Although, that behavior is (probably) bad. Mainly because I'm Pashtun, and it hurts my narcissism. I suppose it may morally bad too? I dunno, you can help me out on that one... I don't really know about that one. But here are more police brutality instances, and you can't really say they were being racist here:







PS sometimes the police get their asses beat



(Pashtun slapping Punjabi policeman)

P.P.S. Indians do the same

Police brutality is not something uncommon in Pakistan.People from all ethnic groups have been victim of this.
What is true however is that Afghans are being specifically targeted recently.

As for the Pashtun slapping the policeman, well you have to hand it to the Pashtuns for showing guts.Pakhtun ba manay.

[toughpashtun]

This is absolutely disgusting.
People of Fata-origin put under surveillance in Pindi division - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

[Peacelove]

LOL..Thread was opened with good intention and look what happened again turn to paksitan hatred...

[Peshawer_2222]

Pakistan and Afghanistan are at war. Perhaps not officially but its pretty obvious we both are fighting each other through proxy forces. If you guys are not willing to hand over your good terrorists, don't expect us to hand over the bad terrorists. This is a two-way street: you consider our government puppet? Great. We consider your government kaffir and brit-made. So needs to be defeated.

Pak-Afg conflict was started by Afghanistan over that st*pid Pashtunistan issue. I give you that. But this current proxy war is all your fault.

Regarding those died few days ago I just don't care. Under normal circumstances I would seriously regret it. But right now I hate so much, so deeply what Pakistan represents that I don't give a f*ck when 100 Pakistanis get butchered.

Pakistan - Afghanistan war ? What a joke . If we ever go to war Afghanistan will further go into bronze age . Its funny seeing your posts at times because you act as if Afghanistan is in command of the whole situation . Newsflash we have been browbeating you since 1979 .

[Samandri]

I say we all (particularly Pakistani Pashtuns) should read the biography and poetry of Khushal Khan Khattak

[Firdousi]

LOL..Thread was opened with good intention and look what happened again turn to paksitan hatred...

Thats because your country is difficult to love. Do you Pakistanis realize how all your neighbors hate you? Afghanistan, India, Iran,.. even China (hats off to them. They are doing such a great job. In these times of despair they milking the hell out of you lmao). How is this even possible?

[Firdousi]

Pakistan - Afghanistan war ? What a joke . If we ever go to war Afghanistan will further go into bronze age . Its funny seeing your posts at times because you act as if Afghanistan is in command of the whole situation . Newsflash we have been browbeating you since 1979 .

Eight killed, 21 injured in bomb attack in Lahore's Defence

By Muhammad ShehzadPublished: February 23, 2017

Punjab police spokesperson says it was a bomb attack. PHOTO COURTESY:
LAHORE: At least eight people were killed and 21 others injured after a blast ripped through an under-construction building in Lahore’s Defence Z block area on Thursday, officials said.


Eight killed, 21 injured in bomb attack in Lahore's Defence - The Express Tribune

Your country is on the verge of collapse. Its just a matter of time. Baluchistan will be free. And the rest of the country will descend into chaos.

[Peacelove]

Thats because your country is difficult to love. Do you Pakistanis realize how all your neighbors hate you? Afghanistan, India, Iran,.. even China (hats off to them. They are doing such a great job. In these times of despair they milking the hell out of you lmao). How is this even possible?

Iran is not enemy we are ok with them..China has good relations..India is a separate case..Afghanistan itself an occupied country..
Who cares for it...
LoL..If paksitan is so bad why your country begging us to open the border..No ghairat no hamyat ?

[toughpashtun]

LOL..Thread was opened with good intention and look what happened again turn to paksitan hatred...

I started this thread with sincere intentions.
I am obviously not a Pakistan-hater.
On this forum, discussions turn to Pakistan hatred pretty quickly.
As for the news article I have given the link to which says that FATA residents in Rawalpindi are to be under surveillance, well let me re-iterate that I speak against any such ridiculous and unfair behaviour , be that on part of Pakistani authorities.
Also, if Afghans get targeted and treated brutally in Pakistan, I am against that and will speak out against it.That does not make me any less a patriotic Pakistani.