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  • The Lack of "Female" Pashtun Nationalists and Separatists ?

    face it. 90% of the Pashtun seperatists are male. Like those who talk about Loy Afghanistan or Loy Pashtunistan. There is an apparent bias because most of the time it's mostly dudes.

    sure, 95% of the Pakistani Pashtuns are proud pakistani. Of the very few Pakistani Pashtuns that realzie they need to fight for Loy Afghanistan, majority happen to be male.

    What is the reason behind this?
    Women not going to the Loy AFghanistan/Pashtunsistan because of Fear?

    because there's a lack of support?

    why do they remain to be muslim, or Pakistani

    or persianized and muslim if they are from AFG?

    then some become feminists!

    you see the same correlation in conspiracy theories and New World Order, the majority of those people happen to be male.

    for every nationalist movement, especially those that come from stateless nations (Balochis, Kashmiris, Palestinians, Kurds, Quebecs, Mapuches), we see women appearing atleast with a considerable amount. But when it comes to Pashtun, it's next to nothing, It's men 95%.

    The only Female Pashtun nationalists that "Specifically" fought for Loy Afghanistan/ Loy Pashtunistan

    Bushra Gohar, the only famous Pashtun nationalists

    then lesser known ones i will name them personally

    Mahboba Pakhtana


    Orbala Qrratuga
    and even Orbala is complicated saying she supporsts Pashtunsitan yet is always confusing us about her stance.

    now you can say Malalai Maiwand and Soraya Tarzi. But i dont include them because i am asking for females that "specifically" and clearly say they are pushing for Loy Pashtunistan.

    then you see many female Pashtanas that are indifferent for Pashtunistan
    and many female Pakistani Pashtanas that are indifferent to.

    Malala Yousfazai
    Salma AtaullahJan.

    etc. etc.


    if curious, please make a comment on this or correct me if i'm wrong.
    Last edited by kanishka; 02-04-2017, 11:00 PM.

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    Women as a whole are not active in politics , activism etc in the Pashtun world.
    That's why you don't see women advocating for Loy Afghanistan or other Pashtun nationalistic causes.
    This applies to any other cause/movement ; Pashtun women won't be active in it.

    As far as the Pashtuns of Pakistan are concerned, well the vast majority are opposed to Loy Afghanistan and are very proud Pakistanis.The Pashtun nationalist parties such as ANP are not very popular anymore, and even the supporters that they have , I doubt many of them will ideologically be connected with the party.They will just be supporting that party because the candidate will build roads etc in their area.
    Last edited by toughpashtun; 02-04-2017, 11:38 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by toughpashtun View Post
      Women as a whole are not active in politics , activism etc in the Pashtun world.
      That's why you don't see women advocating for Loy Afghanistan or other Pashtun nationalistic causes.
      This applies to any other cause/movement ; Pashtun women won't be active in it.

      As far as the Pashtuns of Pakistan are concerned, well the vast majority are opposed to Loy Afghanistan and are very proud Pakistanis.The Pashtun nationalist parties such as ANP are not very popular anymore, and even the supporters that they have , I doubt many of them will ideologically be connected with the party.They will just be supporting that party because the candidate will build roads etc in their area.
      why not ?

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      • #4
        Nationalism is a waste of time. It's also a taught behaviour. Pashtun women are barely taught other things, let alone nationalism.

        "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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        • #5
          Such a hate on this forum..This forum is making me anti afghan which i don't want to be..You have just obsession with Paksitan and jealousy..Daily come up with this Loy thing..I am going to leave this forum ..Thanks for the admins here who bear my stay..

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Peacelove View Post
            Such a hate on this forum..This forum is making me anti afghan which i don't want to be..You have just obsession with Paksitan and jealousy..Daily come up with this Loy thing..I am going to leave this forum ..Thanks for the admins here who bear my stay..
            Oh shut up for God sake. Just check out Pak Defense Forum and see what real hatred and bigotry is all about. This is a Pashtun Forum so people will talk about Pashtun nationalism. What did you expect, you fool?
            "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
            I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

            -Ferdowsi.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
              Nationalism is a waste of time. It's also a taught behaviour. Pashtun women are barely taught other things, let alone nationalism.
              Why are you on Pashtun forums? This forum has everything to do with Pakhto nationalism. We are the anti-thesis of Pak Defense Forum .

              "Pull out your swords and slay anyone that says Pashtun and Afghan are not one! Arabs know this and so do Romans: Afghans are Pashtuns, Pashtuns are Afghans!" -Khushal Khattak,


              that is our mission, atleast for most of us .

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kanishka View Post
                Why are you on Pashtun forums? This forum has everything to do with Pakhto nationalism. We are the anti-thesis of Pak Defense Forum .

                "Pull out your swords and slay anyone that says Pashtun and Afghan are not one! Arabs know this and so do Romans: Afghans are Pashtuns, Pashtuns are Afghans!" -Khushal Khattak,


                that is our mission, atleast for most of us .

                No it's not. And even if it were, why would I not be here?? I would be here as an antidote. Truth is said to begin in the middle of lies. My presence would be most needed in a place where my beliefs are rare. What purpose would being around people of my own beliefs only, serve??

                I don't know anything about Defence pak, I don't care for it and I don't want to talk about it. It would also be nice if you didn't try to promote defence pak by randomly mentioning it in conversations that have nothing to do with it or at least in conversations that you are having with me.




                "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kanishka View Post
                  why not ?
                  My counter question:
                  1) Why are there more male doctors than female in Pashtun society?
                  2)why are there more working men than working women in Pashtun society?
                  3) Why are there more male politicians than female in Pashtun society?

                  The answer:
                  Culture,religion,etc

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