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  • #16
    A leader? no one knows this "boy" and his online movement of Pashtunistan sponsored by India.

    It's not that Punjabi soldiers don't want to rape Pashtun women, they simply can't. For every six or seven Punjabis , there are one or two Pashtuns in the army, and units are mixed. TTP videos would have mentioned it if rapes of Pashtun women were occuring. Pakistani army is committing other types of crimes against Pashtuns , e.g Marvi Sarmad on Twitter alleged that Pakistan is using chemical weapons against Pashtuns, sharing picture showing Pashtun children with chemical burns.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Samandri View Post
      A leader? no one knows this "boy" and his online movement of Pashtunistan sponsored by India.

      It's not that Punjabi soldiers don't want to rape Pashtun women, they simply can't. For every six or seven Punjabis , there are one or two Pashtuns in the army, and units are mixed. TTP videos would have mentioned it if rapes of Pashtun women were occuring. Pakistani army is committing other types of crimes against Pashtuns , e.g Marvi Sarmad on Twitter alleged that Pakistan is using chemical weapons against Pashtuns, sharing picture showing Pashtun children with chemical burns.
      Sorry , you said yourself for every 5 or 6th punjabi there is pashtun soldier and they are mix..Even in operation mostly the soldiers were dominately pashtuns.
      And the pictures that secular lady marvi shared are fake.These are the kids from Syria/Iraq being pashtun one can easily identify and i don't know how to share pics here otherwise i would share those pics with you published in international newapapers showing the same kids from Syria.

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      • #18
        I hope this Umar Khattak guy doesn't any family in Pakistan because Pakistani authorities are known to make people disappear without a trace as we have seen with Baloch people. This sort of rhetoric is not going to achieve anything anyways and might do more harm than good.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Peacelove View Post
          Yes why not after all they are the guardians of nation from Hindu and Afghan warlords who wishes to destroy us..
          I m saying i will not accept the words of Hindu..Umar khattack against pakistan..Lol what a low in my life Ummar khattak a hindu i wish he once pay visit here in KP ,, He has sold he soul and faith for money ..And i should believe him.. no way
          He's not a Hindu though. Stop doing that. It really embarrassing when Pakistanis call people with a different point of view 'Hindus'. It's not intellectual, and it makes people think you're weird.

          As far as the topic is concerned... the problem is when you have an army of which 70% has no idea what Pashto is, what its dialects are, how can you expect Punjabi mercenaries to distinguish between 'Taliban' Afghans and Waziri Pashtuns. This war is totally pointless, and it has only displaced the people of FATA away from their homes. Pak Army has made this look like some huge victory but at some point, they'll have to answer for the crimes committed against the tribal Pashtuns. Not only have they destroyed the Miramshah Bazar, but they've opened shopping malls there. They're buying land and selling it back to the locals for profit. Cheap ******s with no dignity or hausila, piece of **** army that it is.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Samandri View Post
            A leader? no one knows this "boy" and his online movement of Pashtunistan sponsored by India.

            It's not that Punjabi soldiers don't want to rape Pashtun women, they simply can't. For every six or seven Punjabis , there are one or two Pashtuns in the army, and units are mixed. TTP videos would have mentioned it if rapes of Pashtun women were occuring. Pakistani army is committing other types of crimes against Pashtuns , e.g Marvi Sarmad on Twitter alleged that Pakistan is using chemical weapons against Pashtuns, sharing picture showing Pashtun children with chemical burns.
            It's also very uncharacteristic of them. Sex slaves is a big deal. Even in Bangladesh, they basically just carte blanche raped, and killed. They didn't take them captive or do anything beyond that. Horrible stuff, but there were no sex slaves.

            Also, initially at least, they had serious morale issues with fighting their own people. Sex slave would be very unlike them, at least with fellow Muslims in Pakistan.

            Sounds horrible, but when something is so far into fantasy land, it must be called out.

            There's ample legitimate qualms about Pakistani Army... things like this actually hurt those who make real complaints public.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Porus View Post
              He's not a Hindu though. Stop doing that. It really embarrassing when Pakistanis call people with a different point of view 'Hindus'. It's not intellectual, and it makes people think you're weird.

              As far as the topic is concerned... the problem is when you have an army of which 70% has no idea what Pashto is, what its dialects are, how can you expect Punjabi mercenaries to distinguish between 'Taliban' Afghans and Waziri Pashtuns. This war is totally pointless, and it has only displaced the people of FATA away from their homes. Pak Army has made this look like some huge victory but at some point, they'll have to answer for the crimes committed against the tribal Pashtuns. Not only have they destroyed the Miramshah Bazar, but they've opened shopping malls there. They're buying land and selling it back to the locals for profit. Cheap ******s with no dignity or hausila, piece of **** army that it is.
              He's not a Hindu though. Stop doing that. It really embarrassing when Pakistanis call people with a different point of view 'Hindus'. It's not intellectual, and it makes people think you're weird.
              Did i call anybody else like this ? ...Its not me..The guy himself declare that he has converted and facing criticism for this from his fellows. Some research on topic always help
              Dr Neelakshi Goswami
              ‏@DrNeelakshiGswm

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              Afghani muslim Umar Daud Khattak have converted to Hinduism and now a proud Pashtuni Hindu #GharWapsi

              Umar Daud Khattak
              June 19, 2014 ·
              Very sadly, some of my Pushtoon and non Pushtoon Muslim Friends are not able to digest the truth that "I AM CONVERTED TO HINDUISM" now they are making posts that this ID is hacked - I cannot explain my expressions for those - who are good nationalist but still their minds are very confined - I am still a Pushtoon Nationalist and I wouldn't take even an inch step back from my efforts for Great Pushtoonistan and Loy Afghanistan - If any one has doubt that these pictures are fake or this account is hacked or I am not converted - You can call me on my # +93788068416 for further clearance and verification - Secondly, I am working on an Article regarding my conversion, which I will upload very soon to clear the doubts and questions of my comrades and pals! Jay Lakshami Matta

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Peacelove View Post
                He's not a Hindu though. Stop doing that. It really embarrassing when Pakistanis call people with a different point of view 'Hindus'. It's not intellectual, and it makes people think you're weird.
                Did i call anybody else like this ? ...Its not me..The guy himself declare that he has converted and facing criticism for this from his fellows. Some research on topic always help
                Dr Neelakshi Goswami
                ‏@DrNeelakshiGswm

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                Afghani muslim Umar Daud Khattak have converted to Hinduism and now a proud Pashtuni Hindu #GharWapsi

                Umar Daud Khattak
                June 19, 2014 ·
                Very sadly, some of my Pushtoon and non Pushtoon Muslim Friends are not able to digest the truth that "I AM CONVERTED TO HINDUISM" now they are making posts that this ID is hacked - I cannot explain my expressions for those - who are good nationalist but still their minds are very confined - I am still a Pushtoon Nationalist and I wouldn't take even an inch step back from my efforts for Great Pushtoonistan and Loy Afghanistan - If any one has doubt that these pictures are fake or this account is hacked or I am not converted - You can call me on my # +93788068416 for further clearance and verification - Secondly, I am working on an Article regarding my conversion, which I will upload very soon to clear the doubts and questions of my comrades and pals! Jay Lakshami Matta
                I have googled your text and it shows it was posted on his facebook I'D. But in the comment section he is saying that his I'D was hacked and his conversion story was posted by hacker. Comments

                But if it was posted by hackers why he did not delete the hacked post?, it seems he was gauging the reactions of his small number of stupid followers. Look at the comments, his followers are calling him names and issuing him death threats. This joker must have approached India for money , and for money he is doing every thing, even converting to cow-worshipping religion it seems. I say the face of this pathetic boy should be blackened and he should be paraded on donkey all over the Karak, and all this should be recorded on a video. No honourable and self-respecting Pashtun, no matter how much issues he has with Pakistan, should approach Hindus and suck their penises.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by kanishka View Post
                  what i dont get is that most pashtuns i meet are still proud paksitanis despite all these horrible things being done to them by the pakistan government.

                  even lots of people from Swat, Pakistan. I meet them in Canada and USA.

                  If Pashtun seperatists like Khattak said Pakistan is oppressing Pashtuns
                  then why are the so many Pashtuns from swat still proud Pakistanis? Like they love pakistan very very much.
                  On internet i know some anti-pakistani Pashtuns from Swat . Orbala was one of them but she's still complicated, saying she still identifies herself as Pakistani yet sorta cursing pakistani, she's complicated.


                  same story with Waziristan. Waziri Pashtuns love Pakistan. Infact, half of the Waziris are Mehsuds and Mehsuds helped Pakistan capture half of Kashmir

                  to be honest, the only Anti-Pakistani Pashtun from Waziristan, who i know and remember of personally is Amir Khan Maseed. Also known as Soldat Amir, a Russo-phile Atheist Orthodox Christian. Hell , even he's even married to a Gul Khan and the rest of Soldat's family seem to identify as Pakistanis.

                  It's a disease of "so called" muslim brother hood that has destroyed pashtuns and many others. Punjabis or others might be killing, raping them yet to them, worst of muslims are better then the best of kaffirs,. Muslim brother hood is the biggest joke the world has ever seen, and the stupidest of man kind can only believe in this

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by kanishka View Post
                    what i dont get is that most pashtuns i meet are still proud paksitanis despite all these horrible things being done to them by the pakistan government.

                    even lots of people from Swat, Pakistan. I meet them in Canada and USA.

                    If Pashtun seperatists like Khattak said Pakistan is oppressing Pashtuns
                    then why are the so many Pashtuns from swat still proud Pakistanis? Like they love pakistan very very much.
                    On internet i know some anti-pakistani Pashtuns from Swat . Orbala was one of them but she's still complicated, saying she still identifies herself as Pakistani yet sorta cursing pakistani, she's complicated.


                    same story with Waziristan. Waziri Pashtuns love Pakistan. Infact, half of the Waziris are Mehsuds and Mehsuds helped Pakistan capture half of Kashmir

                    to be honest, the only Anti-Pakistani Pashtun from Waziristan, who i know and remember of personally is Amir Khan Maseed. Also known as Soldat Amir, a Russo-phile Atheist Orthodox Christian. Hell , even he's even married to a Gul Khan and the rest of Soldat's family seem to identify as Pakistanis.
                    Its because Pashtuns are assimilated into the Pakistani elite. Many Pashtuns are (and have been) high ranking officials in the government, military, etc. just like Punjabis. Also, Pashtun culture might play a role in this as well.

                    Its the same reason why in Iran, Azerbaijani separatism is non-existent even though their language/identity is being oppressed but Kurdish & Baloch separatism exists there (even though those are in the minority). Cause the Azeris are assimilated into Iran's elite. The ayatollah is even an Azerbaijani.

                    Does Orbala live in the West? If she does, then that would explain everything. If she has no connection to the West, then she's an interesting case.
                    Last edited by Sarbani; 01-22-2017, 03:08 AM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by kanishka View Post
                      as a Pashtun nationalist, i am not going to trust india

                      because the moment Pakistan is destroyed, we Pashtuns have to struggle to gain KPK and FATA back from India, a nation of a billion people. IT would be impossible to seperate from india....

                      even most Pashtuns are still ignorant. If india annexed Pashtun areas, what difference does it make? It's only the same story all over again.
                      Being friends with India doesn't mean that they will annex our land. It just means they will help Pashtun separatism. India will probably be the biggest ally to Pashtun and Baloch separatism.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Karachi View Post
                        It's a disease of "so called" muslim brother hood that has destroyed pashtuns and many others. Punjabis or others might be killing, raping them yet to them, worst of muslims are better then the best of kaffirs,. Muslim brother hood is the biggest joke the world has ever seen, and the stupidest of man kind can only believe in this
                        You have nothing to say other then repeating same rhetoric of Killing and rape without evidene..There is no reason for pashtun to go against state when we enjoy a better and stable life then our counterparts across the border.Further we are assimilated in Pakistan .More pashtun in karachi then Peshawar.May be not as much as punjabis but our stake are equally served with this country.. Armed forces or government posts we are everywhere .. We are not an alienated community here.This country has given us a lot.You indians can only dream to break this bond between us.. Pashtuns and Punjabis unity is the reason pakistan is holding the ground .
                        You can play your ethnic games in Afghanistan where every body put there ethnicity first rather country and at end in net loss to everybody.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                          I have googled your text and it shows it was posted on his facebook I'D. But in the comment section he is saying that his I'D was hacked and his conversion story was posted by hacker. Comments

                          But if it was posted by hackers why he did not delete the hacked post?, it seems he was gauging the reactions of his small number of stupid followers. Look at the comments, his followers are calling him names and issuing him death threats. This joker must have approached India for money , and for money he is doing every thing, even converting to cow-worshipping religion it seems. I say the face of this pathetic boy should be blackened and he should be paraded on donkey all over the Karak, and all this should be recorded on a video. No honourable and self-respecting Pashtun, no matter how much issues he has with Pakistan, should approach Hindus and suck their penises.
                          That is the reason he is not coming back as his passport was also revoked.
                          Don't know how is travelling now

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                          • #28
                            There is no need to read Pakistanis replies. Its always the same sh*t. Let me sum them up:

                            "RAW, NDS, CPEC, seal the border, sent the refugees back, god bless fata*s Raheel" Repeat.

                            What moronic retard*ed brainwashed nation. With all due respect lol.
                            "For thirty years, I endured much pain and strife,
                            I awaken the Ajam by this Persian [language]. "

                            -Ferdowsi.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Sarbani View Post
                              Does Orbala live in the West? If she does, then that would explain everything. If she has no connection to the West, then she's an interesting case.
                              Yeah she lives in the US. She's also like a 3/4 out of 10. 5 on her good pics...

                              Check out Orbala (@qrratugai): Orbala (@qrratugai) on Twitter

                              Having said that... its very normal for middle/upper middle class Pakistanis to bad mouth Pakistan. You see it all the time.

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                              • #30
                                Can someone tell me what makes someone Pashtun? If they only speak Dari are they considered Pashtun? And how do I know if I'm Pashtun or not I come from Afghanistan Kabul but live in Australia and grew up here so I don't know much about this

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