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  • FATA should never be merged with KP or mainstremed

    why should FATA be merged with KP or mainstreamed ? people believe merging will bring the much needed reforms and FCR will be abolished. i say the word reform does not always reflect reforms, in case of Pakistan it sure never will. what reform is pakistan capable of other than introducing corrupt police system, corrupt failed judiciary system, higher than K2 taxes and corrupt civil bureaucracy who work on commision and rishwat. if pakistan is capable of more reform than this, then please point me in.
    if you think that education and health facilities will be extended to FATA , then mainstreaming is not a pretext for these facilities. pakistan can always extend these facilities if she wish. there is no education and health facilities in most of Baluchistan district, the KP district torghar is the most backward district in whole pakistan, same is lakki marwat and hangu district.

    FCR should be abolished and FATA should be given more autonomy as legally FATA is not part of pakistan. FCR give a legal cover to the crimes committed by pakistan army and government, but if there was no FCR that does not translate to no crimes by army. these are pakistan inherent problems no one can dare to ask or question army. there is no FCR in Baluchistan, but home abolishing, kidnapping and shooting baloch is normal routine. extra judical killing have occurred in KP especially in SWAT and buner too. FCR is not a point of concern.
    pakistan political party JUI, PKMAP is against the merging, while ANP endorse it.
    Last edited by marwat; 12-17-2016, 12:39 PM. Reason: pmln -> pkmap

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    waziristan have big chilghoza forest and soon they will give 60 percent profit in taxes to government if mainstreamed. similarly government will start digging the mineral, local will get the security gurad job, and profit will be shifted to big cities. it has already started, there is a mountain rich in some mineral (i forgot the mineral name) in a small village in waziristan, and army have already started digging. the agreement with the local is that they will be resettled early in their home village if they raise no concern to which the local agreed.
    there was a person who belong from army family from di khan. according to him his family army guy were saying that they will dig the war cost from the same people .

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    • #3
      Come clean bro. FCR means **** all... it's pakistan. FCR could've been in every province, and nothing would changed.

      FATA likes their low (0?) Taxes and free electricity. They also have a lucrative kidnapping business. Merging means all that disappears.

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      • #4
        Pakistani charghozay are amazing. Best nuts in the world.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by marwat View Post
          waziristan have big chilghoza forest and soon they will give 60 percent profit in taxes to government if mainstreamed. similarly government will start digging the mineral, local will get the security gurad job, and profit will be shifted to big cities. it has already started, there is a mountain rich in some mineral (i forgot the mineral name) in a small village in waziristan, and army have already started digging. the agreement with the local is that they will be resettled early in their home village if they raise no concern to which the local agreed.
          there was a person who belong from army family from di khan. according to him his family army guy were saying that they will dig the war cost from the same people .
          You make some very good points here.

          Question is, how would we develop FATA while keeping old laws? Merging means they get more pool of tax revenue... but it also means they pay.

          I don't know if it's better to merge or not merge.

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          • #6
            Although I am not from Pakistan or FATA, I will add my 2 cents as Pashtun.

            Some very valid points made by Marwat and I don't want to repeat them.

            In my opinion the people of FATA should take advantage of their unique situation by benefiting from all that Pakistan and even Afghanistan has to offer and still keep their autonomy and freedom intact. I think FATA should be declared a tax free zone and be exempt from any Taxes for at least the next 50 years due to all the problems they have faced. FCR should be abolished and people of FATA should be ruled by the laws they choose for themselves and have their own assembly or Jirga.

            Unlike the rest of KPK and Norh Balochistan, FATA has not become mainstream yet so they can implement Pashto/English curriculum in their schools and get rid of Urdu which is good for nothing in modern world.

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            • #7
              People of FATA should seek real genuine autonomy, not the "special status" associated with FCR. No Political agent (who are outsiders) should dictate them like Angraiz.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Shapur View Post
                Although I am not from Pakistan or FATA, I will add my 2 cents as Pashtun.

                Some very valid points made by Marwat and I don't want to repeat them.

                In my opinion the people of FATA should take advantage of their unique situation by benefiting from all that Pakistan and even Afghanistan has to offer and still keep their autonomy and freedom intact. I think FATA should be declared a tax free zone and be exempt from any Taxes for at least the next 50 years due to all the problems they have faced. FCR should be abolished and people of FATA should be ruled by the laws they choose for themselves and have their own assembly or Jirga.

                Unlike the rest of KPK and Norh Balochistan, FATA has not become mainstream yet so they can implement Pashto/English curriculum in their schools and get rid of Urdu which is good for nothing in modern world.
                i fogot this nikama urdu language , the people of FATA have kept the pashtun culture alive, mainstreaming it and introducing urdu ,PTV and Bollywood will soon desify them and instead of attan they will take pride in bangra culture. what you see on TV seems superior.

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                • #9
                  Some of points made here doesn't make any sense.

                  1. I'm pretty sure only few get free electricity in FATA considering right now in Pakistan not even those who pay bills get 24/7 electricity.
                  2. If you're paying direct tax in Pakistan that mean you're better off then vast majority of Pakis.
                  3. No one can escape indirect tax in Pakistan.
                  4. Nothing comes for free.

                  Most of Fatians move to other parts of Pakistan to search for better life, how did Karachi pathan population explode? Fatians themselves are in mainstream what ever the f that mean but FATA is under colonial FCR. Which doesn't make them free but more like slaves of political agents. State can punish many of them for crime of single individual. Thats why most of FATA young educated people want to merge with KPK or make new province.

                  Maliks will obviously not want to merge, not because of traditions but influence and money. Most of these Maliks sons and daughters most likely live in other parts of Pakistan. PTI is new party and want to prove it self and for that reason corruption is less among them then old parties. This will be best time for FATA to merge and see real development under PTI.
                  Last edited by dawn; 12-17-2016, 02:49 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by marwat View Post
                    waziristan have big chilghoza forest and soon they will give 60 percent profit in taxes to government if mainstreamed. similarly government will start digging the mineral, local will get the security gurad job, and profit will be shifted to big cities. it has already started, there is a mountain rich in some mineral (i forgot the mineral name) in a small village in waziristan, and army have already started digging. the agreement with the local is that they will be resettled early in their home village if they raise no concern to which the local agreed.
                    there was a person who belong from army family from di khan. according to him his family army guy were saying that they will dig the war cost from the same people .
                    I wonder if you actually believe in all these lies LMAO army digging minerals

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Shapur View Post

                      Unlike the rest of KPK and Norh Balochistan, FATA has not become mainstream yet so they can implement Pashto/English curriculum in their schools and get rid of Urdu which is good for nothing in modern world.
                      You are making it sound like FATA doesn't have any schools or other facilities. There are 6000 schools in FATA and curriculum is similar to rest of Pakistan.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by marwat View Post
                        i fogot this nikama urdu language , the people of FATA have kept the pashtun culture alive, mainstreaming it and introducing urdu ,PTV and Bollywood will soon desify them and instead of attan they will take pride in bangra culture. what you see on TV seems superior.
                        PTV and Bollywood is part and parcel of Pakistan, no escaping that even in FATA. Bollywood is superior, no one deny that. Hopefully Pakistan industry will reach their standards one day.

                        this look cool, no wonder bollywood is popular.

                        Nachde Ne Saare - Baar Baar Dekho | Sidharth M & Katrina K | Jasleen R | Harshdeep K, Siddharth MD - YouTube
                        Last edited by dawn; 12-18-2016, 01:39 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Lol @ dawn-key dancing to the bollywood song.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
                            Come clean bro. FCR means **** all... it's pakistan. FCR could've been in every province, and nothing would changed.

                            FATA likes their low (0?) Taxes and free electricity. They also have a lucrative kidnapping business. Merging means all that disappears.
                            Kidnapping is not limited to FATA. I know people who have no connections with FATA and have been kidnapped. I don't think a merger would reduce that. It's the inaccessibility of FATA which causes kidnapped persons to be taken there.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
                              Lol @ dawn-key dancing to the bollywood song.
                              Paki weddings are incomplete without bollywood songs.

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